Im still thinking how u get the right angle for ur tweeter positioning..? some say need to do a crossed angle, some say need directly make the tweeters to directly hit ur ears.. ..

so any suggestion?

err.... not sure what is crossed angle but one thing i'm pretty sure, don't put the tweeters direction facing to u, (given if u had the crossover installed with the tweeters) or u end up suffer the direct high frequency sound produced by it x_x

I did it before right after i installed my ICE and end up can't turn the volume loud coz the tweeter was 'shooting' my ears badly



or maybe becoz my components set was cheap after all?

This post has been edited by heavencloud: Aug 2 2008, 12:43 AM

Because high frequencies are very directional, you can try facing the tweeters towards the roof at an angle so that sound reflects off it back to the cabin.. this also takes some of the harshness away...

cross angle means to direct the tweeter to face the center...usually to face the tweeters to the rear-view mirror or center of the car for sound staging purposes...

yea.. thats wut im planning to say.. im surrent;y facing my tweeters to the cnter tof the car for sound staging.. can start to get my bass coming out from the windscreen oredy and not from the back of my car.. but still im in passive setup.. going to active setup soon..

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Added on August 2, 2008, 12:49 ami dun think directing the tweeters directly to our ears are good also altho some people do tat..

This post has been edited by StratOS: Aug 2 2008, 12:49 AM

first of all....do u know what is the xover frequency cut offs?
second....doesnt matter where ur tweets should point...
ultimately...u hv to get a reference cd with accurate imaging...
then only u can start adjusting ur tweeters....u mids are not coming up to dash maybe caused by ur tweeters louder than d mids...
level matching is not there

alot of reasons...going active may solve ur problem..but not entirely...
i've gone from passive to active and back to passive now...
no issues with imaging and staging....

just a tips here..

if your tweeter cut off freq is low..let say 3khz or 3.5khx..u can place it quite far from the mid bass and still get good soung

if it is high like 5khz..u need to be sure it was not too far from the mid bass..if not it will sound very separate and weird

2 common tweeter placement are on axis and off axis..

i place mind shooting the center of the roof..

some people place it high on A pillar to get good staging

i think this topic is very subjective to the types of tweeter that you are using...

pass experience,

metal dome tweeters: i place them high up on the a-pillar somewhere till my ear level while the left tweeter faced my left ear and the right side faced the passenger's right ear... result was good... harshness was minimized while the staging was high enough...

then i change to soft dome: using the same angle... i found that my staging is too close to me... even how i cut the freq, adjust the gain... still they are too close... then i place then deep into the dashboard on the a-pillar faced where still the angled like before towards the ear thing and upwards to the rear view mirror... results well staging not so high... but its very deep...

of all these two setup... my cross point had no real changes... only minimal changes that unless you have a diamond ear... then you will notice them...

so what tweeter are you using?

im still using stock rogers tweeters, soft dome now o.. i was wondering those ribbon tweeters, the sound a lot differences?

There's a saying goes 'one man's meat is another one's poison' & it's also the type of music one listen's to.

some tweets perform better off axis and some on axis... juz gotta trial and error.

not only positioning matters
u gotta be on-phase too
my suggestion is get a proper tuning CD and move it slowly

any songs or sounds u guys recommend to be used when doing this(positioning the tweeters)?

my favourite are iasca 2005 track 11

if u want i can send to u..pm me ur msn

This post has been edited by athlonxp: Aug 3 2008, 02:36 AM

PM'ed u already.. thanks.. any other songs?

Always use songs that you always listen to. So that, you have a clear image of how the song is supposed to sound like, it will be a lot easier for you to do the trial and error. Doesn't matter what genre or song.

For my own simplicity, I use a very sentimental, normal recording (non-bias), chinese mainstream pop song to do the basic tuning. And from there on, when I listen to other cd's I just need to do some minor fine tuning.

Edit : About on and off axis, it's all about trial and error.

This post has been edited by kenlimfornication: Aug 4 2008, 06:09 PM

for vocal im currently using Bleeding Love and Better in Time by Leona Lewis lo..

If tune by yourself, trust your own ear...

play wif time alignment if ur HU has tat function... center o driver imaging also can... lu suka..

my hu no time alignment.. tats why selling it off and get a 9887 soon.. haha..