Need a good soundcard to have derectional audio~

To those who wana know whats so good about the ikari, how does it fare against the da and so on~ Wait for my review, i'm goin back to subang in 2 hours, so the review will be hopefully out in few days~

This post has been edited by somiao5625: Oct 5 2008, 02:20 PM

Wow, u made so many invalid points i dont even feel like correcting you, should just leave you as ignorent and uneducated as you are,
but for G_ken sake, being called a morons, prob me too, and every1 using steelstuff~

1) Laser skips, yeah, the first gen doest, i personally test the G5, stops traking at slightly fast movement speed, the 2nd gen you claimed thou, is no other different then your beloved razer 3rd gen, its made by the same manufacture, phillips to be exact, its called the twin-eye sensor, basically the same product in G9, ikari laser and lachesis, and they all perform up to 42cm/360, wothout neg accel or skipping or any tracking problems, but sir, who the hell play at that kind of sens? You have any idea how low is that? For example in cs, u have to swipe you mice in your mantis/everglide/goliathus, not even one full swipe in the largest mice mat can you turn over, some other people would knife you down from the back be4 you could even turn...
If you says skipping the da skips too, only after 4m/persecond, so it skips too right? But who the hell play at that sens? Its just too low~
So your argument is invalid and undoubtly stupid~

2)Esreality, yeah that famous gaming site, ah well, sujoy's review is usefull, but did you know why didn't updte the chart? 1st, his busy, 2nd, he said there is no more needs because the new generation of mices can all track at good enough speed for lowsensers~
You sir, you only know to use other sources and can't think by yourself,
is considered very ignorant and rude, by make others sound like idiots
makes you feel better?

3)Utter b$! Every IR mouse produces heat, the krait too, did u even studied physics? IR producest heat, to some extend, its not an isolated case, all da's, kraits produce a certain amount of heat, go check ur beloved esreality, some users stated it too...
Still dont trust me dont you? Good, leave ur da on ur cloth pad for some time and touch the spot u left it at, its warm!

4)No comment, except how could you not even own the mouse and says its bad? Haha...

5)Feel is a subjective term, to me, the da feels sturdier, but the side are sliperry, and its heavy, the feet is thin can small, so i prefer the ikari, but is my personal experience, there is no standard to judge the feel of a mice.

6)Yes, its all resorted, dont tell me the largest gaming gear company cant fix a flawed driver in such a long period?


Please sir, if you feel like trolling, go somewhere else, whats the point of bashing people with less knowledge on gaming gear then you? Do you really feel better because u read the esr charts and they didn't?
Get real my friend, each person's experience towards a certaint product
is different, god made no human equall, but some are certainly
dummer. ^^

Af for razer or steelseries? Which is better? Its personal judgement,
to me, i dislike the da's weight, strong button tension, and the alogarithm and correction used in the chip in order to attain the so
call good tracking speed up till 4ms, it simply felt less sensitive,
and accurate to me~ Where the ikari, felt easier to move,
more responsive and in place to me~

So? It doesnt mean ss is better? No, I just like it better!
Are razer's product bad? Nop, it is really subjective
and whats important buy what you like, dont just buy a product,
praise it to heave and condemn every one using other brands...
*Sigh* I thought a person with 3xx post might have slightly more depth...

This post has been edited by somiao5625: Oct 5 2008, 11:23 PM

Now, thats what i call a subjective and comment with depth~

Cheers~

Lol brian, i dint't wana point out his a razer fan xD
U did =P
Erm, okay, i will no be kind anymore~
Your using the lachesis, i'm 100% sure your a newb, how can you not notice that the stupid lachesis sensor moves itself, skips even when your press it, and has a horrble shape....
No this time my answer is objective, the lachesis is clearly a flawed product! Only newbies who uses it says it performs well because they cant even notice that it is flawed, GG
U just bought one of razer bate product, i suggest u request
an exchage for another mouse, razer is a very open company and
will 100% exchange it for you~
If you want proof that the lachesis is utter crap, i'll kindly put 20 links here to proove it~

The fact that you dont even know what sensor's in your mouse proves your an ignorant person, how can you compare and comment on something you yourself sir, are not sure off?
I trying to give valid reasonings and comments here, sorry for
my previous aggresiveness on my statements, i just want you to
know that we have our own opinions~

To be very honest with you, i think your trying to defend the very product you buy, after buying into razer's marketting, the 3g term is just
razer's big "hey our's is better" term, trying to make their competitors
look obsolete products, nothing wrong with that, just a strategic move for the company, but we as user's have the right to choose and comment~
The fact that the G9, Ikari laser, and the lachesis have the same sensor is true, all manufactured by philips, but some of the sensors were modded,
razer's was modded to have higher movement speed and dpi, whr the ikari disables correction of movement and precise dpi tuning, the G9
is using the stock sensor imo~
This newer gen of products are basically the same products from the same company, but on paper the lachesis have better specs, which make it looks like its a newer generation.

Brain, on me being a ss fanboy, is not true, i'm a neutral and subjective user, i use whatever that i think of feels nice to me, in short razer is no cheap company with lousy products, but they do have alot of quality problems, mostly their laser mice line and audio products, some keyboard probs too, the very tarantula i'm typing now with its lights blinking randomly~

Oh, phantom, regarding the DA, it does become warm after some time, yes your right not to a uncomfotable level, but it makes me sweat, that with the heavy weight of the da and its sliperry sides makes it hard to grip for me, i also have rather large fingers, so the curve up section in the right side of the mice leave no place for my pinky and ring finger to rest, thats why i prefer the ikari over the DA, on your statement the ikari laser skips, my answer is, yes it does, so does the DA, every mouse has it limits, the issue is, general gamers, even the low sensers will not hit the treshold of the sensor's limitation, but in very rare cases,
so extreme people who uses 60~70cm/360, the mouse it not usable,
Your not saying the optical is tracking badly? No you dindn't, i never said you did, but imo, i hate the optical and cant play well with it
due to its liftoff, thats purely my opinion, but some people, for example brian, its doesnt affect him at all~ He likes it, that is what i call preference...

Robert, razer's ceo, we used to exchange mails, we disscussed various issues on gaming gear, concepts and philosophies...
I have my very on opinions that a good set of gaming gear, should
be made to the maximum extend of technologies, and highly customed to everybody's needs~
But robert, and razer's vision, is to make gaming gear that is available to everybody and performed well generally~
Which includes their innovation in hardware technologies and more passive shapes~

These doesnt mean that i'm a fanboy or whasoever, i just use what i like, i don't take sides...

Again my appologies if i offended anybody in my heated post and comments~

This post has been edited by somiao5625: Oct 6 2008, 04:45 AM

Haha yeah, i'm studying in taylors~
Just contacted the distributer, he said he will arrange time to
deliver the products to me~
So patience ^^

G_ken, thats right! We both used products from steel and razer, we aren't biased, we just use what we like~
We don't need somebody who buys in some cool marketting gimmick
and bling lights to tell us what is best~ =P

Phantom, u bashed us, i'll return you the favor, no need to have depth
talking to people like u~

Tell me a pro gamer who uses a DA? ^^

Haha, yeah he is ^^

Twin eye is just a term, moron, u bought the razer's b$
There is noneed to prove to you, wasting my time to prove it,
the truth is the trust, the fact is, razer modded the same product
and says it better, but instead, u, who bought the flawed product
trying to take your anger out here, just because the ikari is superior
to the lachesis~ =P
Btw, too lazy to find the source to proove it to you~
Any body with free time please give him the links~
Example, google it~
The retard seriously dont know how to use google~

Walau this thread got so many pages liao de? @@
Btw, the distributer said he will arrage his time and deliver the products to me, by then again, patiences~ =P
Eh, using the DA atm, like brian, its my 1st love, but i found something better to replace it =D

Malu =.=lll
Casanova, LOL!
Well i think a casanova playboy edition will be cooler imo =D

This post has been edited by somiao5625: Oct 7 2008, 03:17 AM

Haha, from banleong, i think he is =P

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Added on October 7, 2008, 1:04 pmKenix, its the exact same size, just different colour.

This post has been edited by somiao5625: Oct 7 2008, 01:04 PM

Why you want a smaller mouse?

U tried the actuall ikari be4? Its not large as you think~

Yes got to agree, but lifting the mosue is hard, due to the outward grip... =S

If your fine with the HUGE liftoff, the go ahead and get ikari optical, you'll be very pleased with it, if you have the extra dough to spare and want the most responsive, consistant, and accurate sensor, go for the laser~

Yeah it is~ ^^
Clavin, your right, liftoff distance = distance when the mouse stops tracking when you lift it~

Hit able, my opinion, yes, the ikari optical is made for fast movements, but they place the sensor in a vertical position, so it can track really fast but u have to lift the mouse really high for it to stop tracking, results a lost in reaction time, the laser, can track at an already impressive speed, you wont be able to make it skip, but however some people who play at extremely low sensitivity makes it skip~
Certainly not you =P

Yes, a huge liftoff is generally bad for gaming, lower is better, and the liftoff on the optical with my destructor is like 7mm, horrible...
Whil the laser at most is 2mm~

My review not out yet lol! I only got a broken optical with me at the moment, the destributer havent pass me my items, said he will arrange his time...

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Added on October 7, 2008, 8:27 pmOh forgot to answer ur 2nd questions, generally the term skip mean's tracking problems... For example, the cursor moves randomly when u move your mouse too fast, or it stops tracking~

This post has been edited by somiao5625: Oct 7 2008, 08:27 PM

Nop, the light source is very strong it tracks really well!
But, when, lets i say i move my mouse to the end of my mousepad,
i dont have and more space for me to move the muse, hence i'll lift the mouse and reposition it in the centre of the mouse pad right? The problem is, when i reposition my mouse, my cursor moves because the sensor tracks even after i lift it above for a fair distance...

Hope you understand my geek words...

The ikari optical does have a lower liftoff on black cloth pads, but i'll need further testing to comment on it~