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Photography Panasonic LX-3 King of the King of digicam Updated, LEICAF2.0,1/1.63 sensor,24mm,HD,hotshoe

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post Dec 15 2008, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Dec 15 2008, 12:57 PM)
Does anybody know about the shutter life of LX3? What's the longest focal length?

Thanks.  notworthy.gif
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Shutter life only applies to DSLR because DSLRs utilise a physical shutter. For normal digital cameras, you can use it until you get bored of it smile.gif
The LX-3 has a 2.5x zoom, the shortest focal length being 24mm and the longest being 60mm.
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post Dec 18 2008, 09:11 PM

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Lulz..A tiny bit of barrel distortion present. sad.gif
Or it is my eyes that are problematic
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post Dec 18 2008, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 18 2008, 09:59 PM)
there's actually more than what u see. The JPEG comes out already corrected. RAW conversion without barrel correction shows a lot more distortion.
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I thought the LX-3 had no RAW support? blink.gif
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post Dec 19 2008, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(PCHo @ Dec 19 2008, 12:18 AM)
Urghhhh.....I just answered this question in page 95 and now it come out again..... doh.gif


Added on December 19, 2008, 12:19 am

Ya, it is definitely good to see "my bro" back again.....
hahahah..... rclxms.gif
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Relax dude. yawn.gif yawn.gif
I was just passing by and got my facts mixed up.
The camera with no RAW feature was this one. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_sx10is.asp
I was reading the reviews of the SX10 and the LX3 at the same time. doh.gif doh.gif
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post Dec 26 2008, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Dec 26 2008, 03:01 AM)
Can't you just use the cable?
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I dunno about the LX-3, but on my DSLR the cable only manages around 5mb/s.
Using my chicken brand reader, transfer speeds can reach 15mb/s. smile.gif
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post Dec 26 2008, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Dec 26 2008, 08:43 PM)
I tried the Nikon DSLR that has Max Aperture of f3.7 to take pictures of my LX3 ...
I forgot the model but it's quite a cheap DSLR

Guess what, I have difficulties shooting good photos without turning on the flash.
But if I turn on the flash I can't put the camera too near because the lens would block some flash light. laugh.gif

Here's my advice, DON'T GET A CHEAP DSLR. LOL!
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What I see here is that it isn't the DSLR that is causing the problem, but you don't know how to utilize it properly.
What's more the aperture depends on the lens used. yawn.gif yawn.gif
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post Dec 27 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Dec 27 2008, 12:04 AM)
Oh, so you would suggest Ppsprov to get a DSLR at the same price of the LX3, then get the lens (a few hundred bucks) just to match/beat LX3's performance?

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Nah, a good lens would prolly set him back a couple thousand bucks.
I'm just saying you're not utilizing the cheap DSLR properly laugh.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Dec 31 2008, 01:57 PM)
Easy to use too !!

QUESTION: How do you do burst shooting with the LX3 ??
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RTFM...twice?
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post Jan 2 2009, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(kvyeoh @ Jan 2 2009, 08:32 PM)
Haha...let's see what he reply after he install it.
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you really dont get it, dont you?
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post Jan 3 2009, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 2 2009, 11:56 PM)
You can resize your photo to 8MP and see whether its the same sharpness or not lor.
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SOmehow this does not make sense shakehead.gif
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post Jan 3 2009, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:22 AM)
Why not? Small pic is always sharper than bigger pic if the information
is the same. Let's say you have 2MP picture. You resize to 4MP. Then
you view both 2MP and 4MP picture at 100%. See which one is more sharp
at 100%.

If not understand, pls ask. Not shake head. Its very rude of you.
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It works when you say it this way. It doesnt work the other way around.
If what you're saying is true, then you'll have a paradox where the picture will get sharper and sharper each time you resize it.
What you said in the first place was to resize a 10MP picture to 8MP to make it sharper. That already doesnt make sense as you're already throwing away information. You could be referring to another thing, but resizing a picture that way just isn't right. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:43 AM)
if you care to read my earlier post, then you'll understand my paradox. But its just my
gut feeling that eventhough Panasonic is 10MP, but in reality, its just 8MP information
due to cannibalize post processing especially night scene. Get over with it bro. No point
arguing if you keep on thinking you must win.
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Now you're using your gut feeling to explain things.
You could say that Panasonic's 10MP picture is in reality only 8MP due to cannibalising, but then the exact same thing will happen to any other cameras. The Nikon's 8MP will become 6MP due to cannibalising.
The point isn't me trying to win here, bro.
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post Jan 3 2009, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(OldKidz @ Jan 3 2009, 10:35 AM)
size do matter, but IQ also matter.

I am looking for something tat can get good IQ and compact. is it this the best compact cam for me?
wonder tat is it worth to get LX3 or jus DLUX4? XD

wat i read is G10 will have some noise although wif ISO 100 and above. is it true? hmm...
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Why pay 4x more for something that is exactly the same? blink.gif
It's like paying more for a Toyota Passo instead of just getting a Myvi whistling.gif
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post Jan 4 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 4 2009, 04:12 PM)


joyy is almost right when she says that downscaling throws away information (there are special cases where it won't e.g. a photo with only one color). You can always derive a 2MP picture from a 4MP picture, but in practice hardly the other way round.
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Even with a unicoloured photo, there's still the dynamic range of the pixels. So when you downscale the photo, you'll still lose information smile.gif
Unless you downscale the photo by physically reducing the size of the individual pixels, which in practice is nonsensical.
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QUOTE(Ppsprov @ Jan 4 2009, 04:40 PM)
Hi all. Remember i said that my lx3 falled on South Korea? At first i tot only the Lenscap was broken and there should be not much problem  . . But then I noticed a serious problem:
Shutter already goes giler. . . Sometimes automatically switch off and on (i can see it flipping), even if I did not press anything.
I think I will be sending it back topanasonic service center. If the repairs more than rm600. . I have decided not to repair it anymore...
By then i  give up lx3, (may be sent to people to play or what, after all, it is now "half malfuntion".. super heart broken ah!!! RM1600 plus extra ori battery and also 8gb sdhc ...)

If my financial is not so tight, i think will go for DSLR oledi...

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What do you mean when you say "shutter"?
Cause in technical terms the LX3 doesnt have a physical shutter. sad.gif
So it could be an electronic problem, something with the circuitry blink.gif
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post Jan 5 2009, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 4 2009, 07:57 PM)
I meant single color as in single color in a single shade.. like this:

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.. in which case downsizing will not lose information. It's a very special case and won't matter much for practical discussion, but I come from a math background so.. smile.gif
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Actually, that picture carries only one piece of information. The only information it contains is the color, and all the pixels are identical. The only thing needed to construct that picture is the color, the dimensions being determined by the user. >__<
So yeah, scaling the picture in any way doesnt affect the only piece of information in it. Even if the user sets 0x0 as the dimensions, I think, as the only thing the user changes is the scale factor blink.gif
Physics background here notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Aurora @ Jan 5 2009, 01:25 PM)
Hi guys. Anyone here try shooting fire? I can't seem to get any good picture of fire. Always overexpose. If I use a faster shuttle speed, there won't be enough light coming in. Any idea?
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Go to manual, and do trial and error. If the shutter speed is too fast, then make it slower, play around with the settings until you get results which you are satisfied with.
Anyways, if you're focusing towards the fire, the camera should give a good exposure, I'm suspecting the reason why your pictures are overexposed to be that you're focusing not at the fire, but somewhere near it which is darker, therefore the camera overexposes. blink.gif
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Me too~

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47mm
1/80s
f/5.6
ISO 800 smile.gif

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QUOTE(munky @ Jan 5 2009, 10:00 PM)
bought Stuff magazine (jan 2009), and there's this comparison between lx3, nikon p6000, canon g10, sigma (dp1 or dp2 cant remember) and ricoh caplio something cant recall the name.

And reading the review, i was like WTF ? It says the nikon and canon has better image quality, among other things la.

Now i learned that never to trust these gadgets magazine too much. Better find the reviews on the internet like dpreview
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Lulz.
The Sigma pwnz all of them. smile.gif



srsly
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post Jan 5 2009, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 5 2009, 11:03 PM)
sometimes dpreview also not that good.... tongue.gif
why you always mislead people...??? dp1 can't pawn LX3. It is fix focus at f/4.0.
Its useless most of the time and a lot of problem here and there in auto department.
Please read more before comment.  shakehead.gif
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It's DSLR sized sensor beats all compacts and prosumers.
Since everyone here is talking about how the LX3's IQ is better than the G10's IQ, it felt necessary to mention that the Sigma's IQ is better than the LX3 whistling.gif
Please drop your biased mentality before commenting on comments. rolleyes.gif

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