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post Mar 17 2011, 12:36 PM

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Puchong Prima is not a good place to invest as it's not located along the LDP and furthermore only serves for the group of Prima residents.
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post Jun 1 2011, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jun 1 2011, 10:03 AM)
2) The income demographics for Puchong is mainly lower middle to middle income earners only (majority) and cannot be compared to places like Subang Jaya or 1U. I notice somebody compare the prices of escalating homes to rising income level. This is wrong. Many of the owners of puchong houses especially those in Kinrara and Puteri are first batch house buyers for own stay. That means they bought the houses at RM 4++k only. Even if the houses inflates to RM 700k does not mean household income for these people increase propotionately. Remember, many of them bought for own stay!


Friend, do you really know or study the income bracket for Puchongites? Have you read the latest survey and study on how much averagely earnings for those staying in Puchong? It is claimed that 70% of those staying in Puchong household income is RM7,000 and above and you claimed that as lower to middle group? Yes, first batch purchasers are getting cheaper price at around $400k but do you know that the subsequent phases is selling between $500 - $700k? Not to be forgotten the semi-D and bungalows. Some of those buying first batches already dispose their unit at higher price to new buyers which are affording $600k and above for the house. If you comparing Subang and 1U houses, don't you think they bought their unit even cheaper last time at between $150 - 300k many years ago which means their income is even lower than those staying in Puchong? If I'm not mistaken, Subang terrace houses last time sold between $100 - $150k only..so what do you think?
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post Jun 1 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jun 1 2011, 11:39 AM)
I disagree with yr rationale

1. My definition of lower middle and middle income group earners based on current inflation and escalating prices is as below:-
Lower Middle - combined HHI of up to RM 5,000 p.m.
Middle Income - combined HHI of up to RM 10,000 p.m.
Upper Middle Income - combined HHI of up to RM 15,000 p.m.
Upper class (elite) Income - combined HHI of above RM 15,000 p.m.

2. Like I say, most demographics of Puchong are for OWN STAY. Sure there are people flipping properties but the % is not significant

3. If u rely on those staying in Bungalow and Semi-D for business, sure die! How many household are there staying in Semi-d/bungalow? How many units of Semi-D/Bungalow are there in Puchong? More than the terrace houses? Are u sure?

4. Subang is such a big place. the RM 100-150k is only located in certain parts of Subang. Or should I say, the demographics of Subang represents a more mature demographics with many in the middle income group (defination above). Same goes for 1 U.
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The point I'm arguing here is you are referring to Puchong as a low to middle income group. Back to the income bracket you mentioned above (Lower middle income up to 5,000 p.m) which is contradicting to the facts that 70% of Puchongites are earning well above RM 7,000 p.m so you shouldn't classified them as lower middle group but instead they are belongs to middle to upper income group.


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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jun 1 2011, 11:18 AM)
I notice that the highest "spending power" group (for daily needs except car + house) is age 20-35, they form the majority in purchasing latest electronic items, car accessories, cloths, decent cafe like PPR and Old Town, travelling etc, although they earn less (<5000) but majority no savings.
I agree that Subang is well established, the percentage/number of rich uncles and unties is higher than Puchong, their income is much higher, but it does not means that their spending is high too...(I know they saveeee a lot in the bank or they owns many properties) icon_idea.gif

Back to Setia Walk, let's see wat will happen after 2 years (after the cinema, karaok, fitness centre and those apartments are ready and fully occupied), it is still too early to judge.
I put my bet, 90% success rate
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I'm putting my money in this project too if have the chance but too late as the boat is sailed. I can see that SW will be the next hangout place for Puchongites as IOI Mall is rather old concept and Tesco is for those that looking to get some groceries. Talking about Sunway, yes there will be some people driving to there for shopping include myself too but for those casual and sign-seeting or windows shopping, people will opt inside the Puchong simply because is nearer and they have mentality not to pay for the toll (RM1.60 x 2).

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post Jun 1 2011, 04:21 PM

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[quote=mercury8400,Jun 1 2011, 03:02 PM]
[quote=1ullaby,Jun 1 2011, 12:56 PM]
That's a old cliche of young married couples bro wink.gif If anything, unless either party is non-working, it's easy to calculate how much disposable income a couple can have, assuming both professional degrees, age 28 worked for 5 yrs or more, EASILY above 4k per pax even for the lowest gaji employee, r u saying that they will b so prudent in spending knowing that the only way their income can go is.. Well up? smile.gif

Not really. Rough estimation as below based on yr assumption that each earns RM4k.

Husband and wife total combined income = RM 8k (RM4k each) p.m.
EPF contribution = RM 880p.m. (based on 11% of RM8k)
7 years installment for 2 Car(RM 60k each) = RM800 per car, per month X 2 = RM1600 p.m.
Petrol = RM 50 per full tank. Let's say 1 tank a week =RM 200 p.m., per car, so RM 400 for 2 car.
Parking = RM 100.00 X 2 car = RM 200 p.m.
Toll - Lets say RM50 for 2 car for 1 month
Housing instalment based on a RM 600k house over 30 years at 6% interest rates = RM 2,800 p.m.
Breakfasat & Lunch, eat out say RM 20 for both meals X 5 days X 4 weeks = RM 400 per person X 2 person = RM 800
Groceries =RM 50 per week X 4 weeks = 200
Assume Sat and Sun Never eat out. Eat at home so = RM 0

Total Earned p.m.= RM 8,000
Total Spent p.m. = RM 6,930

(The cost is a very conservative one, not taking into consideration annual holidays, kids, car accidents, entertainment, going out to eat on sat and sun, etc)

Enough ka? I don't think so
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What are you trying to explained here? Living standard is high and those household income of 8k is not enough to survive in Puchong? And you always insist that Puchong consist of those that is young couples which earning barely survive their basic living? So in another words you mean those Puchongites is a poor residents which will not afford to have a decent lifestyle? Those are your thoughts but have you really check around the Puchong and understand what is their profession, their income and etc? So you are having a better views and study on what the SW will become? Then I think you must be a millionaire by now as you can see better than the developers...congrats!

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post Jun 22 2011, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jun 22 2011, 11:30 AM)
son / daughter jobless, sitting in one of the kopitiam in Setia Walk net surfing whole day..
father / mother meeting Ah Long next door kopitiam borrowing $$$
Ultimate winner is Setia Walk lah!! rclxms.gif
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nono..SW is doomed to failed as it only caters for those earning above $8,000, remember???? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 23 2011, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:58 PM)
nvm de... if no FAMA help, they will use plastic card.. they use it so much and get them into trouble.. they look for AKPK.. den they learn their lesson..

And you know what, after that another new generation of freshy start working and enjoy life style.. den plastic card.. den AKPK.. den learn their lesson..

then next yr, another new batch of freshy use plastic card again.. den AKPK den.................

so u see... the cycle never ends... lifestyle outlet always glad that school never teach financial management .. and this outlet every year also got business from freshy.... doh.gif


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muahahhahhaha...... the security guard can read from your forehead, you dun earn 8k, kenot come in.. but if you got plastic card, no problem...  icon_idea.gif
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The credit card must have at least 8k credit wor...if not reach the minimum 8k quota also kenot come in biggrin.gif
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post Jun 23 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(yyingsiew @ Jun 23 2011, 11:13 AM)
I also hv one bigger unit to let go at Setia Walk..1396sq.ft with Sky Garden Forest View, 15th floor. 3+1bedrooms, 2 balcony and 3car parks. Anyone who interested please let me know. My contact no is 0124743879 (Yeap). Thanks!
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How much you intended to let go?
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post Jun 24 2011, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Jun 24 2011, 06:00 AM)
There was once a self-inflated guy who cannot accept SW will be the landmark of puchong, hence criticises the statement.
Follow the link if you want some good background.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/752729/+180

Two years nearly gone and now with sw commercial completed, how many of you would think sw will be the landmark of puchong ?
Can anyone state the reason if he doesnt think so ?

Most interestingly, i would like to see how Pai makes his way through cos he strongly rejected the idea at that time.

There is nothing wrong to predict the future as forum is to share everyone's thought. It's only when a heated debate happen, someone who thinks he is right and criticises others are shamed when things dont turn out in favour of him.
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Can see that many sour lemon comments at that thread. Certain people are just throwing bad comments on certain projects as themselves are missing the chance to be on a ride...that's life. SW still have few things for catchup before SW to categories it as a succesful one but the potential is there to achieve. I didn't owned one there but I wish too.
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post Jun 25 2011, 12:21 PM

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For big mall or complex to be build need a big land and Puchong is almost out of land so this makes it impossible to have a giant size to cater for Puchong market unless if they venture down to the Puchong Utama or Bandar Bukit Puchong or even Puchong Gateway which is a bit far. As a Puchongite, myself wishing that we can have a new and a bigger malls to patronise during weekend so the only options we have to look fwd is SW which hopes it won't disappointing us.
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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Jun 25 2011, 06:57 PM)
wah Paineer still got face to post comment ar ! rclxms.gif  i start to admire you .. your thick skin ..  notworthy.gif
your comment is very contradict ler .. first you disagree sw will be landmark and condemn sw gao gao, today you compare it with Pyramid and 1U ..
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/752729/+180
wah u behave like our politician ..  brows.gif
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anyway nobody can predict the future as each individuals entitled to their own opinions. just hope the best for the project we putting our money in, afterall we all are hoping our investment is bringing good returns right? I just hope SW can be a good place to hangout next time so I will have another place to have my weekend shopping for groceries, movies, foods...
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post Jun 30 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(davkong @ Jun 29 2011, 09:25 PM)
SW have 4300 carparks.. cukup or not, heheh!  tongue.gif
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That is quite a lot but no matter what at the end of the day it will still fully occupied biggrin.gif
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post Aug 29 2011, 03:14 PM

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For a decent size space of 1,200 for small families, Trigon will easily command at a price of more than Rm700k so if they can pay such money for the condo means they can also afford the landed house which there's plenty of choices in Puchong area. Still Puchong is not MK, Hartamas or Bangsar so I think this project will be hard to sell. My regret is I did not get a unit for the condo when SW launched years back.
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Looks like Skypod is going to price at same value per sqft compared to Trigon? If this is the case I think the response will be at least better than Trigon as it offers alternative to own a unit at SW with lower entry cost.

Just wish SW will be open soon but currently still pending for the traffic issues which is getting worse along the LDP. However I can foresee soon I can read newspaper while driving along that road on the way back home biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2011, 10:45 AM

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Probably this is sign of SPS going to sell their remaining shares to PNB and decided no point of building a ramp or whatsoever as afterall these project will be managed by the GLC firm.
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post Oct 27 2011, 11:08 PM

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Why 350? new launching selling 550 psft already my friend. hold for higher..

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Feb 21 2012, 08:38 AM)
At least they are much better than IOI  smile.gif
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Mind to elaborate why you says SPS is having better build quality than IOI? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Feb 22 2012, 08:48 AM)
From my personal experience. Stayed in the link houses in Wawasan and also has friends who owns houses in Puteri 10. So much difference in the built quality comparing them. Lots of cracks plus the poor finishing quality in the Puteri 10 houses.. Or could it be that both my friends were so unlucky as to get the bad quality houses .... hmm.gif
Taking a look at the roads in both taman. Can see the difference in the road finishing quality...
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Well, my in-law owns few houses in Puchong and they have units at Wawasan 2 as well as Puteri 10 and Puteri 6. Before I married my wife, I used to visit her at Wawasan 2 as she's staying with her family at that time. If you ever visited Wawasan 2 then I tell you, you will get shocked with SPS build quality. Roof and pipe leaking, floor tiles workmanship done poorly and crack line can be seen around the houses. After that they move to Puteri 10 and so far are satisfied with the house condition as never heard them complained anymore.

Have you visited SPS houses at Setia Alam? 2 weeks ago I was having some viewing on Semi-D of Tecoma and Tristania at Setia Alam and after seeing my houses myself and my wife decided to give it a skip. Not only some defect can be seen but to be honest SPS need to hire more qualify architect to create better layout for future house launches.


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QUOTE(JustNobody @ Feb 22 2012, 10:52 AM)
Workmanship from company is different from time to time. IOI also got problems deliver good quality house to their customer. My friend own the latest, I think is Zarra or something... He told me the whole house need to redo.. Kota Kumuning developer, Paramount, also the same. The previous phase of Kemuning Utama was good... But the latest phase... A friend of mine said he want to cry after get his key and saw the house in actual... So, No need to argue.. Just pray the workers the developer hired to build your house is look after by their main con... Cheers...
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This thread not to arguing who is the best as all has it's own defects. Just wish that developer will have more stringent QC on the subcon that they hire to build the house. The famous developer such as IJM also having huge complaints on their recent project at Penang and Laman Granview at Puchong. Better control on the subcon by the developer is way to go to maintain their goodwill.
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Frankly speaking, many people is being fend off by the price tag as buyers still not ready to fork out more than RM500/sqft for Puchong condo. Not sure of current sales status but SPS should set the price lower to attract more buyers.
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Anyone been inside the Mall? From LDP it looks still very empty.

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