by the way, which one is better? Zest or SW ? which one should i keep ?

At today's prices..............maybe should sell TZ n keep SW 

True also as Zest Commercial unable to match SW. The most will the TZ customers around the blocks who will frequent the commercial units. Whereas SW will be the new landmark of Puchong and rest assures with the retail components fall in place it will enhance the values.

TZ will be just like Atria for the nearby community and in no way could offer the same and comparable with SW for the lifestyle of retail, work, live and play.

based on what was paid for SW.......you guys better pray hard everyday that it better be THE landmark......... else.......... 

Actually.......TZ would be lucky if it can end up like Atria.......Im not that optimistic honestly........and dont think anyone bought TZ for its commercial component........so didnt really matter.........think it will end up like VIVA R's commercial in Jalan Ipoh...............banyak kosong wor.......

It's look great !!no regret .

So, does this mean that puchong will be like the next USJ @ kewajipan mess?

Or u guys think that this is "normal", and setia walk pasti akan maju?

Thanks in advance for your views.

sorry to say i don't think setia walk live up to its hype. the exterior looks dull, plain and boring.
the internal water feature and open area looks okay at best.
hopefully more decor will spruce up the place to be more marketable and presentable to attract more people.
from the pics, i wouldn't say i'm attracted to visit the place.
just my 2 yen.

so Mr. Zavier - what's the story? u going to sell your setia walk or not>?

Considering it's going to be "nationalized" and owned by PNB?

Unless u still have faith that the "mgmt of SP Setia" will still be "maintained"?

And u don't think there's a bigger picture to this take-over? Let me guess - u think that it's to create a bigger company with economies of scale? kekekekekeke Yah rite.

Mr. Zavier
ohhh 142,

1. This is interesting. Firstly, u have to look at the bigger context.  Sime has eaten E&O. UEM has eaten Sunrise.  And now, SPS will be eaten.  Its is not a question of IF, it is a question of WHEN the acquisition will happen.  Secondy, the GE is coming. UM*O is also fighting for political survival.  How do u think UM*O gets its funds from? Membership fees? Yah rite.  Think Zavier! Think!
do u want to discuss politic or property ? or maybe u want to talk about sp setia share ..
btw, u r a great learner from Pai  ..  titiwangsa sentral to reach 770k is not a question of IF but WHEN .. so SW apartment can definitely goes up to min 1mill and it's just a question of WHEN .. haha  so lame

2. Do u think the above happened out of coincidence? Sheer luck? Don't be so naive.  If u think SW is "immune" from the economic & political context, and do not even feel weary of the situation.....well - best of luck to you.
how do u know what i m thinking  ..  why are u assuming what i m thinking  .. haha .. u sounded like i made the thinking and then u made the conclusion of what i am .. i didnt even say anything in regards to all ur political topic ..

3. I care very much for you Xavier.  Reason being, 100% of your portfolio is vested in SW.  Hence, why I'm giving u a friendly nudge to be aware of your macro surroundings. 
thanks for ur care .. btw, how do u know again 100% of my portfolio is vested in SW  .. u really like to make assumption w/o any basis or have u been hiring a private investigator to check on me .. hehe .. anyway my advise to u is fire ur private investigator 

4. U overestimate TS LKS, and underestimate Steve Jobs.  They are not even worth comparing, or drawing analogies to, looking at how Apple has changed our fundamental aspect of life.  As such, please don't insult Steve Jobs.
this obviously shows u are not listening .. i nvr compare LKS and SJ .. i was saying that they are the backbone of the company .. how do u derived to i m insulting SJ when i was admiring him for bringing up Apple value    .. u OK ar 

5. Every major decision in this country is political.  Nothing implicit or explicit happens without a tacit approval from Putrajaya.  You think PNB dares to even make a bid without consent? Grow up, Zavier.  TS LKS is not indispensable, even though he may be a great man.  The people at UM*O who pulls the strings at PNB don't give a SH*T about him.  As far as they are concerned, the CEO of !&P can handle the new merged entity.
politic politic politic .. u short sell a lot of sp setia share ar ? Losing a lot is it ? chill bro

6. There lies your problem.  Whether or not PNB retains or gets rid of TS LKS.....his days are numbered.  Control is slowly being vested away.  Eventually - the quality, upkeep and tenant mix of places like SW will suffer.  You got to have a strategic mindset, Zavier. If you want to be in this game, you can't just think - "let's buy low, and sell high, and make some profit lah" U don't seem to have a short term or long term plan.  Well, I don't blame u, considering SW is your only property. Well, you seem to be doing a fantastic job "promoting TS" though. Good job!
How do u know i have no plan again ? SW my only property ? ohh u seem like u have known me a long time ..  SW is not even running, u already talked about quality, upkeep and tenant mix .. haha .. so what about Setia Alam mall ? that's a much bigger development .. well dont worry about me .. i know u concern of me .. but all my prediction has turned out wonderful and return has been rewarding .. 

Anyway.....I won't continue this mental masturbation with you anymore.  It is quite obvious you have some depth to gain first before engaging in an intellectual discourse with me.  I just wanted to test you out.  And, I guess I was right about you.  Why not you go ahead with your normal taunting at the TS thread? That seems to suite your level of intellectual maturity just fine. 

Right, u already have all mindset about me .. so there is really no point of discussion .. but most importantly, there is no point in ur topic .. 

I agree that many "danger" points are existing situations even without SW.
But these points are still OK to accommodate the traffic flow for existing residential area if without SW.

After SW is ready here, it worsen the situation.
These "criss-crossing" situations become problems now.
So, I think that it's fair for the residents, SW and MPSJ to look into the problem before it's too late.

I would say the current chaos was caused by few parties (order by priority):
1. MPSJ should not approve the traffic plan without further study (and may be they should survey to existing residents?).
2. SPS didn't study traffic flow thoroughly when starting the development. I was informed that SPS studied the traffic flow during off-peak hour (not sure how true it is).

IMO, may be MPSJ should be responsible for the easing traffic flow tasks instead of SW because they approved it before.
MPSJ should be accountable for this approval.
Of course, real world story could be different.

i add 3 sen coz got 3 pools. units on 'garden' floors should easily get another 1 sen.

this thread got no one to do up alot listing, saying who is supporting at what price...no property agent also