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chuah xui cheng
post Sep 20 2009, 09:46 PM

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Pai is caught in telling lie again, refer to the below which u can find in http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...520&p=28759963&

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Pai Said,
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[cool.gif[b]QUOTE(Pai @ Sep 20 2009, 09:07 PM)
same, just saw the video yesterday hence I retract my statement on the Heron's issues. Last I commented on Heron i only saw negative comments on the maintenance and tenant issues.

I feel sorry for HERON owners and i hope TT will quickly solve this serious issues for the benefit of everyone.
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[b]Which I replied


Oh Pai, can u stop lying?

Do u need me to remind what you have said...

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Pai Sep 13 2009, 04:06 PM

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I wonder why ppl complaint so much when Heron is property they bought for 100k++ only. Were they expecting Sunrise level of workmanship?
Keep on saying workmanship is bad but never highlight the details.....dem funny

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1129024/+420
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You were refering to "workmanship"; And now u try to twist and turn, limiting your statement to "maintenance" & "Tenant" issue?

Well, are u a bad liar or suffering from lapse of Memory?

MG, Pai, do u have to defend the Dev all the way just bc u r vested in Zest!!!


PS: Anyway, u r my good boy, always follow what i ask u to do, Keep it up
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I think we shall not give a serious look to his posts anymore as his credibility is totally gone, Until he confess and change, then we shall give him a chance.

This post has been edited by chuah xui cheng: Sep 20 2009, 10:56 PM
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post Sep 21 2009, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Alan Soo @ Sep 21 2009, 12:30 AM)
hi...everbody, actually those famous developer also got a lot of defect, just like my sister buy a 2 million bangalow with SPS, now the living hall's ceiling got water leak out, after few times of repair thier contractor still cant slove the problem even though their action very prompt.

Currently i stay in bandar puteri but i feel that my floor tile at whole living hall not proper fill with cement. cos everytime i knock the floor tile the sound very empty not solid at all.

i still remember few years ago when IOI launch the project (sorry cant remember the project name), 1st day i visit, there are few protester from bandar puteri klang ask me dont buy IOI's property. cos their property at bandar puteri klang facing big problem. (land settlement, waste water flow back from drain, sewerage pipe crack, after flush the toilet, the water will over flow) and the IOI totally can slove the problem.

thats y i dont think famous developer their qulity 100% good. this is my personally experience. no offend.
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Thank youn Alan.

Not offended at all at what you said is very true.

No property will ever come to 100% satisfaction. Quality is just a yardstick when comes to comparison. And also the dev's attitude in dealing with it.

But of course the recent revealation of Heron is horrifying.

Good night.
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post Sep 21 2009, 11:45 AM

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Hi Zavier,

Look at Pai the Funny again...He make us laugh.

Wow, words like "retard" also comes out already...sounds like those back street men talking, hahaha, in the US movie...

Pointing out 2 mistakes of him made him MAD, dun know if we point out another 1 or 2, how will he react, be ready to here more aggressive words from him...HEHEHE

He is in a state of denial caused by anger & self esteem.
He still dosent know that he is far behind us, WHY, coz he is always the last person to know:-
1.He has to wait until sep to finally see the market sentiment is good...funny and lousy;
2. He is not aware of the crack...(in his word)...funny and inefficient.

Let's move on Zavier, or this link will become the avenue for AH PAI to clear his name, with deceitful means...HAHAHA

Seeing AH PAI covering 1 blunder with another blunder is definitely amusing...

Thanks AH PAI
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post Sep 21 2009, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Sep 21 2009, 11:59 AM)

Added on September 21, 2009, 12:51 pm

yea i wonder why Paineer also like tht .. calling ppl retard doesnt make him any better ..  shakehead.gif
now i think i m better than him .. haha  icon_rolleyes.gif
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You are, definetely.

Do u mind to say....WE are rclxms.gif
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post Sep 22 2009, 08:03 PM

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[quote=Pai,Sep 22 2009, 04:42 PM]
I never said u were THE retard, right? Why behave like one? tongue.gif

I think I've made my point to the public, that u r all talk. Empty drums often is the loudest. Till tiday, you still cant clarify/correct all your claims below :

1. SW will be the land mark of puchong.
2. If Puchong slump, SW also slump.
3. If PFCC, IOI Belev, SW commercial blocks all work out, SW will be the 1st one to be benefited.

Other debatable claims by Xui Cheng that remains unanswered :

4. You have yet to prove to us your claims on " Puchong has more businessman".
5. I asked why your "business" man would go for SW instead of the other Puchong condo? SW is the most expensive, have the least facility and located in the a traffic area so whats the main selling point here?
6. SW as a brand? Very interesting. Care to explain what brand equity does SW brings to its buyers?
7. Again, what is the personal preference that makes ppl want to buy SW VS any other condo in Puchong?
Claiming something that isnt true/cant be proven, is wishful thinking and blatantly misleading (Am being polite trying not to label you a liar that is working very hard to push only one particular project, its almost like you are working for SP).
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My sincere answer to you, with all the best wishes...


Pai, self confidence is good for your career progress, too much of it makes u self inflated and cant learn from the basic (self imposed blindfolding).

Like Zavier said, i have explained.

If you want me to explain more, at least u should read the basic 1st. Without doing that, how do i expect you to understand the more intellectual one?

So Pai, sit down and read, understand and learn.

If you are too busy to do the 15 Qs & As which were tailored made to your intelligence, at least u can answer me ...DID I PROVE THAT U MADE 2 BLUNDERS? 1st you affirmatively told everyone that ZEST needs at least 1 year to sell off, 2ndly, you described Heronian's complaints funny? The result simply showed the otherwise despite u can always give 101 reasons...

Answer me, b4 you demand more...PAi. If you dont know about things u can see, what do u know about things u cannot see?

Face the truth, and the truth will not far from u.

As pointed out by Zavier, calling people retard simply didnt make u any better, if you ever were...

Good luck PAI wink.gif

This post has been edited by chuah xui cheng: Sep 22 2009, 08:04 PM
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post Sep 22 2009, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Cannot Tahan @ Sep 22 2009, 08:07 PM)
Pai, sorry that i have to say this...

I have a lot of confidence in SPS, coz they never failed me.

See ya.
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Mr Cannot tahan,

Your confidence do enhance my confidence. Thank you.

Btw, since Zavier had make a conclusion, we should only revisit should there be any more intellectual Qs.

Like Mr Cannot Tahan always said, U have to ask a right Q to get a right A.

Not knowing ur Q simply bring u to no way.

Thank you to Mr. Cannot Tahan, Zavier, Merce, Alan....And last but not least, Paineer who demonstrated some sort of skills to us.

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Pai, dun be personal...

This post has been edited by chuah xui cheng: Sep 22 2009, 09:47 PM
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post Sep 23 2009, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Sep 23 2009, 12:44 AM)
I bet u did, explains why u bought SW  smile.gif


Added on September 23, 2009, 12:47 am
Still avoiding the question? Everyone, pls look below for all the questionable claims made by Xui Cheng in her quest to sell SW to you all :


I think I've made my point to the public, that u r all talk. Empty drums often is the loudest. Till tiday, you still cant clarify/correct all your claims below :

1. SW will be the land mark of puchong.
2. If Puchong slump, SW also slump.
3. If PFCC, IOI Belev, SW commercial blocks all work out, SW will be the 1st one to be benefited.

Other debatable claims by Xui Cheng that remains unanswered :

4. You have yet to prove to us your claims on " Puchong has more businessman".
5. I asked why your "business" man would go for SW instead of the other Puchong condo? SW is the most expensive, have the least facility and located in the a traffic area so whats the main selling point here?
6. SW as a brand? Very interesting. Care to explain what brand equity does SW brings to its buyers?
7. Again, what is the personal preference that makes ppl want to buy SW VS any other condo in Puchong?
Claiming something that isnt true/cant be proven, is wishful thinking and blatantly misleading (Am being polite trying not to label you a liar that is working very hard to push only one particular project, its almost like you are working for SP).

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Move on Pai,

Accusing people as liar & retard wont bring u to success.

I understand you are struggling to save your credibility here, after your blunders were pointed out, as a Paineer

Emotion will always cloud your mind and obstruct you from seeing the obvious, disabling you from reading the simple.

I am here to share, not to convince.

I asked u the same Qs days ago, which you have been avoiding.

I invite u to show me that u are capable of understanding the basic, b4 we move on to more intellectual discussion.

1. Would a goodwill of a developer has any bearing in term of properties' potential and likelihood of complete VP in time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4nuIyPHnFM

2. Are there plenty or lacking of businessman in Puchong?

3. Is paper gain = materialized profit?

4. Is SW different from Zest, Zen... in term of concept and lifestyle? Is yes, would there be a market differentiation?

5. Selling fast = Good? have you seen any exception?

6. Can all businessman afford a Bungalow or Semi D? (since u claimed that businessman will stay in bangalow & semD)

7. Is personal preference one of the contributing factor in one's decision?

8. Is "expensive" an illusion subject to affordability, with a little bit of personal preference?

9. Is "high End" subject to relativity?

10. Comparing Rolex and B&R, Rolex is definitely more practical, why some younger generation opts for B&R given the same price tag?

11. Can the above questions be answered by mere common sense?

12. Would those in ZEST, Zen...face the traffic jam? Zen may need to use the same highway to reach home...

Given you "outstanding" record in Zest, i'm not sure whether u can read or not...Did you enjoy the youtube link, in which you rubbished all the claims?

Oops, top up Qs:-

14. Is Chuah Xui Cheng always right? Bonus question, answer is NO, a BIG NO

15. Is Pai always right? If Yes, 15.1 was he right in rubbishing all the claims against Zest's dev, 15.2 and asking everyone to wait for minimum a year for Zest, and he bought one in 6 months?

This post has been edited by chuah xui cheng: Sep 19 2009, 11:31 PM
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post Sep 23 2009, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(propcritic @ Sep 23 2009, 01:16 AM)
Same Xui Cheng ah?  Baby cute leh...


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Haha, the baby is really cute. She is pretty as well.

Mind u, even Mr CAnnot Tahan did a same mistake at realestate link by putting a wrong facebook as well, he apologised after the "actual" person sounded him.

hehehe.


Added on September 23, 2009, 7:57 am
QUOTE(Pai @ Sep 23 2009, 01:24 AM)
I dont make false claims like Xui Cheng TO MISS-SELL SW so answering you is rather...........pointless. Even Zavier and Cannot Tahan who is vested in SW never made such claims, so credit to them for not being overboard and being fair enuff in our previous discussions.

FYI here r some questions that I asked u 1st, I'll answer your question when u answer mine (altho I doubt u have the capacity to do so) :


I think I've made my point to the public, that u r all talk. Empty drums often is the loudest. Till tiday, you still cant clarify/correct all your claims below :

1. SW will be the land mark of puchong.
3. If PFCC, IOI Belev, SW commercial blocks all work out, SW will be the 1st one to be benefited.

Other debatable claims by Xui Cheng that remains unanswered :

4. You have yet to prove to us your claims on " Puchong has more businessman".
5. I asked why your "business" man would go for SW instead of the other Puchong condo? SW is the most expensive, have the least facility and located in the a traffic area so whats the main selling point here?
6. SW as a brand? Very interesting. Care to explain what brand equity does SW brings to its buyers?
7. Again, what is the personal preference that makes ppl want to buy SW VS any other condo in Puchong?
Claiming something that isnt true/cant be proven, is wishful thinking and blatantly misleading (Am being polite trying not to label you a liar that is working very hard to push only one particular project, its almost like you are working for SP).

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Move on Pai,

Accusing people as liar & retard wont bring u to success.

I understand you are struggling to save your credibility here, after your blunders were pointed out, as a Paineer

Emotion will always cloud your mind and obstruct you from seeing the obvious, disabling you from reading the simple.

I am here to share, not to convince.

I asked u the same Qs days ago, which you have been avoiding.

I invite u to show me that u are capable of understanding the basic, b4 we move on to more intellectual discussion.

1. Would a goodwill of a developer has any bearing in term of properties' potential and likelihood of complete VP in time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4nuIyPHnFM

2. Are there plenty or lacking of businessman in Puchong?

3. Is paper gain = materialized profit?

4. Is SW different from Zest, Zen... in term of concept and lifestyle? Is yes, would there be a market differentiation?

5. Selling fast = Good? have you seen any exception?

6. Can all businessman afford a Bungalow or Semi D? (since u claimed that businessman will stay in bangalow & semD)

7. Is personal preference one of the contributing factor in one's decision?

8. Is "expensive" an illusion subject to affordability, with a little bit of personal preference?

9. Is "high End" subject to relativity?

10. Comparing Rolex and B&R, Rolex is definitely more practical, why some younger generation opts for B&R given the same price tag?

11. Can the above questions be answered by mere common sense?

12. Would those in ZEST, Zen...face the traffic jam? Zen may need to use the same highway to reach home...

Given you "outstanding" record in Zest, i'm not sure whether u can read or not...Did you enjoy the youtube link, in which you rubbished all the claims?

Oops, top up Qs:-

14. Is Chuah Xui Cheng always right? Bonus question, answer is NO, a BIG NO

15. Is Pai always right? If Yes, 15.1 was he right in rubbishing all the claims against Zest's dev, 15.2 and asking everyone to wait for minimum a year for Zest, and he bought one in 6 months?

This post has been edited by chuah xui cheng: Sep 23 2009, 07:59 AM
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post Sep 23 2009, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(T816B @ Sep 23 2009, 11:57 AM)
Pai, can you guys just move on and have constructive discussion on SW? Many of the readers are here to seek (or provide constructive) views rather than seeing you guys bashing each other, for the repeating questions over the last few pages.

Peace.
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Absolutely. Most of us are here to share.

Recommend you to see a recent comment made by ericwk70 at http://realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.p...=asc&start=1025

Quite informative.


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post Sep 23 2009, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Backkom @ Sep 23 2009, 01:09 PM)
Ms Chuah,

1. I'm vested in the Zest.
2. But we're interested in SW seeing its superb location and overall concept. And please bear in mind that Zest buyers do not necessarily end up being your competitor. We are all Puchong home owners. Some of us are actually interested in more than 1 project in Puchong. (Unless you underestimated the buying power of those piggie-pretenders here.)
3. My cousin is vested in SW, so we're all praying hard that SW will be a great success (same for Zest).
4. As a potential buyer of SW, it's very uncomfortable to see all these "finger-pointing" and "name-calling". You may be just a great supporter of SW or worse, you may be a sales exec from Setia. I don't know. Or maybe you're some other projects' sales exec trying to bring down SW?

Anyway, all I wanna say is - I don't think this is working if you're trying to "bring up" SW. I think you're doing something opposite now. SW already has its own selling points, which are obvious advantages over Zest (except the price). Most of us are well aware of that. There are people who are willing to pay a premium for the concept and location. There are people who prefer something more affordable. We can only compare the projects to our personal benchmark system and share our PERSONAL views, but its up to the reader's discretion to accept our views or not.
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Thanks for explaining to Pai...and I.

Your view is absolutely objective and rational, maybe just you missed some issues.

Thanks for agreeing with my proposition that Personal benchmark and affordability is one of the contributing factor in buying a property.

Btw, can u find a single word of mine condemning Zest? I have said that Zest, Zen, SW...are not mutually exclusive and all will be benefited, just in case you are mindful to revisit the last few pages...

And i dont understand what is the needs to compare since Zest was fully sold?


Added on September 23, 2009, 1:43 pm
QUOTE(Cannot Tahan @ Sep 23 2009, 01:29 PM)
Pai chief,
I have been long enough foruming with xui cheng, she is definitely not a sales girl. She had footprints on other Developers as well, in which she also "promoted".
On the contrary, i have not seen her rubbished any project, except some slight adverse comment on Zen.
And i dont think she is misleading, coz it is just different interpratation of facts.

Hope you can understand where i am coming from.

In fact, i always wellcome SA, coz i want to see how they market my would be property...
I love critics even more, coz i want to see whether those critics can be overcome.

And i do agree with her on:
1. Developer
Property is a heavy investment, the potential losses are to heavy to bear. My eyesight is focus on 6-7 developers, any other project...i dont even give a peep. It is my golden rule that before i think how much i can earn, i find out first the maximum potential losses.

2. Landmark
Perhaps we all have different apprehension over this word. I agree as well in principle. SPS has their intention to introduce new element into puchong. And for myself, i didnt mind to pay a premium, in order not to live in a condo with people from lower class, with due respect. Paying higher always get you better neughbours. This is somehow lacking in Puchong.

With themeless launches in Kepong and Selayang also passing 300k, i think SW worth it.
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For the 1st one, i went for Type C.
For the 2nd one, i'll go for Type D, provided they dont change the layout, which they are changing.

Thanks
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Mr. Cannot Tahan,

A seasoned man will always read and understand before he open his mouth.
As usual, Mr. Cannot Tahan, i will always leave it to u once you have started the ball rolling...
And....Thank you, as usual

This post has been edited by chuah xui cheng: Sep 23 2009, 01:46 PM
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post Sep 23 2009, 03:03 PM

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Move on Pai, dont kill it when Cannot Tahan just kicked start a meaningful discussion.

Have u forgotten i posted the link saying that "...which Pai is a member of it"...

Repeating yourself wont make u smarter.

Let's move on.


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post Sep 24 2009, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(deetee @ Sep 24 2009, 11:56 AM)
did anyone read Star today?  One LRT station right at Setia Walk vicinity!  Good news for all SW owners.  I am betting the next block will have a successful launch.
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I do hope so rclxms.gif

Thanks to every one for everything biggrin.gif

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