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post Jan 4 2013, 07:52 PM

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How do I check the read/write speed to the NAS?
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post Jan 6 2013, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Jan 5 2013, 12:20 AM)
just copy and check lah, that would be the easiest
Thanks. Really don't no there is a speed check in copy windows. blush.gif

Just check copy/move pc <>nas about 11.5Mb/s
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post Jan 7 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Jan 7 2013, 01:48 AM)
I can recommend NOT BUYING seagate blackarmor, but you prolly have read that already tongue.gif
well I finally got around to taking the damn thing upstairs and connect it straight to my pc's gigabit ethernet. so current setup is

Win 7 > 3Com 4 port gigabit > BlackPondan 400, all gigabit.

here's the transfer speed using filezilla.

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GIGABIT doh.gif
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Sucks man this NAS. Better sell it away.

Any fw to upgrade?
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post Jan 7 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 7 2013, 05:23 PM)
Seems you're not on Gigabit network? That speed is about right for 100Mbit line.
Yup. Just a basic N moden router link to NAS, pc, tablet and A/V. Bottleneck is on the internet speed.

And increasing demand on the A/V side. Which I think the router cannot coupe and probably the NAS would have lack of streaming.
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post Jan 8 2013, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 8 2013, 02:56 AM)
Your Synology NAS is overkill then because any decent NAS would be able to cope with that kind of workload and transfer.
Are you running full BDs from your NAS? Gigabit routers are cheap. For AV purposes, never use wireless.
I seldom transfer big file. Since the NAS can do everything, the big file just keep in NAS. I use the NAS mainly for sharing video and picture with family and friend around the world. Torrenting and backup file running 7/11. So the bottleneck is at the internet speed.

As my AV is upgrading now, the demanding speed is getting more. The 3D and BD streaming require high speed. That I probably need to upgrade my network to gigabit. Those streaming AV hardware is wired to the router. The wifi is using for the HP, tablet and non streaming AV.
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post Jan 8 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Jan 8 2013, 10:17 AM)
I dont understand why some of you are quoting your internet speed for the slow transfers you are getting from your NAS... you are not transfering across the web. What is important is the quality of your internal network system.

For BD the max data rate specified is 54Mbit/s (40Mbit/s for AV streams). In theory any wireless N system should be sufficient, even a 100Mbit/s LAN router should be sufficient to stream BD. 3D BD is still limited to a max 64Mbit/s BTW... and that is a really rare occurrence that any movie needs the max data stream.

so look into your homeplug if it is still slow. I think as the few people here have indicated, homeplugs are slowwww.
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NAS is not just keep file and transfering file.

I seldom transfer big file. Since the NAS can do everything, the big file just keep in NAS. I use the NAS mainly for sharing home video and picture with family and friend around the world. Torrenting and backup across the net file running 7/11. So the bottleneck is at the internet speed. My internal networking is more than sufficient for this sharing.

As you said, it is theory and unconfirm. I m in the mid of upgrading the AV. At the moment, it did show some shuttering and not playing big media file. But probably the media player cannot coupe. So ordering a new 1 and see it will improve or not. Just need to check 1 by 1. Include the networking.

Would it be more cost effective and 100% effective if I use gigabit switch and wired to AV? Instead homeplug.

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post Jan 9 2013, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Jan 8 2013, 11:33 PM)
What is the bitrate of the media you are trying to play and what media player are you using? I am currently using a Raspberry Pi and it has problem playing 10-ish GB files when streaming over wifi. But I think it is the lack of processing power of the ethernet/USB controller rather than wifi constrains.

Short answer is yes... 100% effective. The only problem is the issue of running the cables all over the place. If you have built in conduits, just run the cables.
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Sorry, I m not skill enough to understand IT. How to know the bitrate of the media when playing? Where can I check it?

Those file which 10GB or over will have shuttering, cannot play, long waiting time to start play and not support format. Using TVIX 5000HD media player with wired to the NAS. Some of this problem is from the player fw. And some from the network streaming. It is 6yrs old player which is at the ending life. Will replace the media player with med1000x3d. This probably will solve all the media format problem. Than can see how is the network and NAS coupe. Before further solution.

The NAS and network is just 2m from the AV in the hall. So there is no problem to wired the AV to the router and NAS.

If need wifi, the dual band router (2.4g and 5G) will give a better speed?
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QUOTE(perfect10 @ Feb 6 2013, 10:09 PM)
syk, thanks for your input, just wondering is streaming movies easy for HD movies?? or those with codec?? got lag / etc??
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Depend on what HD level you are in. Normal HD movie don't have problem streaming. The rest like codec and format is depend on your player to decode.

For 3D movie streaming, yes. There will be some problem with shuttering. You need a read/write good speed NAS. And not forget the network setup. Like router and switch.

I m currently facing the 3D streaming problem. The synology NAS stream to the player via router have some shuttering with those high bitrate 3D movie scene. I m not sure is it the NAS problem or the router bottleneck. The palyer is confirm good since play in the player HDD is no problem. The next solution will be waiting for the fw upgrade from synology. If still the same, than will look at the router side.
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post Feb 7 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(syk @ Feb 7 2013, 11:15 AM)
Yes, for streaming of HD movie the bottleneck is the network.
Make sure you have Gigabit switch for that. (At least transfer rate of 20+ Mb)
I'd tried both Wifi & 100M switch, the result is not very satisfy for big HD movie (>10Gb file)
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I check around the gigabit switch. The price from cheap till expensive. ANy different? What to pick?

For streaming, forget the wifi. It is useless.

I m still testing the streaming via NFS, samba and UPNP. All no problem with HD movie even big file. But for 3D, it shuttering.
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QUOTE(syk @ Feb 7 2013, 01:50 PM)
I am using cheapo gigabit switch from D-Link 5 port (Rm80) or you can choose TP-Link 5 port (rm60)
Worth a try before commit to high end switch which cost a bomb!
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Is there any speed different with the high end swith and the cheap switch?

I m tired to try around. It is wasting money and time. 1 shoot to make it right.
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post Feb 7 2013, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(syk @ Feb 7 2013, 06:15 PM)
The high end switch might be more faster and stable, and also can support more concurrent connection without packet drop. For normal home user, I think cheap one will just do the job.
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Thanks.

The critical point is must be able to sustain the speed with at least 2 connection. Example streaming 3d movie at the hall and streaming in the room at the same time without any shuttering.
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post Feb 8 2013, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(rioven @ Feb 8 2013, 12:00 AM)
Speak about gigabit switch..go to sri computer..n try to buy aztech ns815 gigabit switch (5 port)..will cost around RM25..not sure if still available..just bought few weeks ago.
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Any good about this cheap aztech switch?

I don't have much faith on aztech stuff. I use their modem router and don't last long. Only belkin give me value for money.
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post Feb 19 2013, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(perfect10 @ Feb 18 2013, 11:28 PM)
just got a synology, is there anyway for windows or mac pc to access the synology folders via windows exporer?? seems like the way to access it is via internet exporer and play from there
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Use the Synology assistance to map the network.
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post Mar 8 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(DPBaker2 @ Mar 8 2013, 04:05 PM)
I am planning on going to Low Yat on Sunday to get a 4 bay NAS. I don't want to spend too much - not over RM1k as I already have another QNAP459 4-bay NAS as my main storage and also a QNAP-201 as a backup. This new NAS is just for storage of videos and photos so speed isn't really important as long as it has 100MBps network - Gigabit would be better of course.....

At the moment I am leaning towards the DLink DNS-345 at about RM850. But thought I would check if anyone knows of a better deal on this one or another 4 bay NAS that will be in stock in Low Yat on Sunday.

I have 3 x 3TB drives already and a 1TB drive - all taken out of a Windows 7 64 bit tower computer as it is too difficult to keep track of them in the tower. So I just need the bare enclosure......and assume that I won't just be able to plug in the drives - I guess I will have to format them differently before they can go in the NAS?

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Makesure it have high speed transfer rate and 32bit NFS. Otherwise, when you go for 3D stream, you will have problem.
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post Mar 10 2013, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(eric_tan @ Mar 10 2013, 11:38 AM)
I would suggest you get Synology. I have installed 3 units, and so far, all the units works flawlessly in SME environment, using it as a file server & backup server.

Synology is reliable.

I had also installed 2 units of the Buffalo 2 bay one.... 1 was extremely problematic.... their recovery process also a little different, since they the boot sector needs to be stored on the Disks, while the Synology already have a boot ROM.

At the end of the day, it depends on Budget vs Reliability.... you decide....

Not so much when the NAS is running, but when a disk "do" fail, how is the recovery process like?
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Did experience HDD failure before on my synology NAS. I shut down the NAS, takeout the HDD and replace a new 1. ON back the NAS and let it generate back the data. Didn't take longtime with the 2TB HDD. But I don't remember need to set anything in the control panel after change the HDD.

1 thing to learn about raid HDD is, don't buy HDD in 1 lot and same batch. Failure at the sametime is high.
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Mar 9 2013, 04:01 PM)
I get it for files storage and need RAID 1 or maybe RAID 10 as those files are very important laugh.gif

I guess NAS suit me since I no need any server feature, I believe it is more secure without server features  notworthy.gif

Thanks for help, any recommended NAS brand or any more affordable Synology sweat.gif
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You need to plan your backup well if the file are very important to you. Depend on NAS or RAID doesn't guarantee and 100% the data is safe.

Hardware fail, disaster and human problem is a list you need to consider.
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post Mar 10 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Mar 10 2013, 02:40 PM)
Planning to move to cloud service but limited by network upload speed doh.gif

Have to live with traditional solution first
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Cloud storage is too small. Require to pay for bigger storage and maintain. And the network too.

I m using traditional storage solution too. But plan for 100% safe backup solution for the 3 problem that I mention.
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QUOTE(pr0pofol @ Apr 7 2013, 10:11 AM)
guys i hope somebody could help me with this problem:

i have a desktop pc with 4 hard drives full of data
now the pc gone kaput and since i have a macbook now i don't need to use it anymore
i'm planning to get a NAS so that i can use all the hard drives that i have wirelessly with my macbook
if i insert those hard drives into the NAS, can i still use the data (the hard drives are formatted as NTFS using windows 7 that is my previous desktop setup) or will it be formatted and become a newly erased HDD?
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You can use back the data but not is this way. You have to takeout the data and reformat the hdd to your NAS prefer format. Than download back to the hdd.

If you prefer RAID, consider your all 4hdd have a same capacity.
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QUOTE(pr0pofol @ Apr 7 2013, 12:37 PM)
how to backup the hdd, pc already kaput
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Got to get an ext hdd case and put the hdd in to extract the data out.
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QUOTE(yushin @ May 4 2013, 08:38 AM)
Guys, what is the expected lifespan of a synology NAS?
My DS410 is almost 3 years old, time to upgrade before the hardware dies?
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Wait till it die Lor. Why so hurry?

My ds409+ more older. Still running well.

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