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post Dec 3 2011, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Dec 3 2011, 10:13 AM)
sifus..i'm now getting confused.  Please enlighten me on the bottom or top freezer..which ones is for energy efficient?

I checked online but they say bottom freezer is energy efficient as heat rises ....but some says that it's quite the opposite as energy is used more to push the cold air to the bottom.

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panasonic inverter compressor fridge has the most energy saving standard no matter what they state on the non-inverter fridge.

inverter compressor = energy saving

new non-inverter compressor = energy efficient

many shops claim the energy efficient fridge as energy saving fridge which confuse the most end users.

"Efficient" cannot be equal to "Saving" as the non-inverter compressor has constant RPM whereby inverter compressor has fluctuate RPM.

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post Dec 3 2011, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Dec 3 2011, 11:11 AM)
Thanks iamsobloodysick

hmm...but since i'm not getting a panasonic as they don't have french door style...I'm opting between Hitachi (top freezer) and Sharp (bottom freezer)..which one is better?
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regarding the french door design, Sharp is beautiful. Hitachi is value for money. Electrolux is deluxe.

hitachi is supplying its compressor to Sharp. so, both are having same compressor. identical quality.


Added on December 3, 2011, 2:22 pm
QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 3 2011, 12:02 PM)
Invertor motor only save electricity if there are frequent stop-start operation. So unless you have the habit of opening the door of your fridge often, I doubt there is much saving.
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between inverter fridge, inverter washer, and lastly inverter aircond, inverter fridge has the most significant results on saving the electricity.

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post Dec 3 2011, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 3 2011, 02:38 PM)
Care to show me how you come to that conclusion?

I would think Invertor air cond would have the biggest saving, assuming you don't put it in an over-sized room.
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from 12am to 6am (or earlier depends when is the last time to open the fridge), the inverter fridge maintains at below 2k RPM whereby non-inverter fridge maintain at 3k or above RPM at all day.

if u can understand how the inverter aircond works, the story is same on inverter fridge.
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post Dec 4 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 3 2011, 08:40 PM)
Take car as an analogue. In situation whereby there are lots of stop-start (as in town driving), it uses more fuel. On highway with very few speed variation and no stop-start, it uses less fuel. Invertor works on similar principle.

Take the case of non-Invertor fridge. If coldness has been achieved, normal motor has to stop completely. And when temperature rises, the motor has to restart from scratch.

Now with Invertor fridge. When coldness has been achieved, the motor doesn't stop, it merely slows down. When temperature rises, the motor doesn't has to restart from scratch but merely speeds up.

Invertor works on DC current. So AC current has to be converted to DC current and there is a power lost of 10% when doing so. So in situation whereby the motor has to be continuously running, then Invertor motor actually uses more power. For example. Putting a tiny air conditioner in a huge room.

That's how I understand it.
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Non-inverter compressor has constant RPM no matter when it has achieved the set temperature.

On contrary, the inverter compressor has variable RPM depends on rising temperature or constant temperature.

As I stated earlier on regarding the inverter fridge which has the most significant energy saving result in comparison to inverter washer and inverter aircond. We switch on the fridge 24/7 but aircond we don't, correct?

How many of us use long hours of aircond at home? and out of how many hours is the energy saving mode? we do not know. Inverter aircond is hard to maintain set temperature especially in the afternoon or in a humid night.


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post Dec 4 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(littlegirlmsia @ Dec 4 2011, 12:22 AM)
Where and when can I buy Toshiba fridge? It's seems that everywhere is out of stocks due to the flooding in Bangkok!
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It will be available 2 to 3 months later.
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post Dec 5 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(jeff_v2 @ Dec 5 2011, 10:10 AM)
bought a Sharp fridge coz of the plasmacluster technology...
izit good or juz normal??
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every brands has its own "keep vegetables fresh" technology, it is just that different name.


Added on December 5, 2011, 11:23 am
QUOTE(adrianjc @ Dec 5 2011, 10:49 AM)
Should be good. Sharp manufactures fridges for Electrolux as well. Some of their fridge designs is simlar to those offered by Electrolux with the exception of the finishing and the accessories inside the fridge.

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hitachi supplies its compressor to Sharp.

Electrolux is sourcing its top freezer fridge from Haier.

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post Dec 30 2011, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Kkrs @ Dec 12 2011, 10:14 PM)
Hi,

I am looking for bottom freezer fridge and am impressed with the 4door Electrolux and Sharp fridges.
A shop quoted me the Sharp 750L Stainless Steel color SJF78SPSL for RM5,050.

Is it okay? Or can I get them elsewhere cheaper? hmm.gif
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post Feb 3 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(boreclub @ Feb 3 2012, 12:00 AM)
Help needed, can any1 help me to find Hitachi model RA6200XK in malaysia, i remember i saw similar model in msia website, but now gone? its a 6 door with vacuum compartment. anywhere selling? thanks alot bro. for helping me.
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hitachi 6-door fridge discontinued already.

u can consider panasonic 6-door inverter made in japan model.

NR-F555TX
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post May 24 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 24 2012, 09:53 AM)
Hmmm, I am having some issue to identify which is the best option for my new fridge. Any advice for the selections below?

1. Panasonic NR-BW465 (net 368 liter) - Pros: inverter (energy saving), stainless steel finishing, Cons: price, bottom drawer
2. Hitachi R-Z490EM-1 (net 395 liter) - Pros: Price, glass door finishing. Eco Thermal sensor (supposed to save energy), Cons: not sure about the reliability and ppl complain that the motor is noisy
3. Mitsubitshi MR-F47C (net 381 liter) - Pros: Reliability, Cons: Price, painted finishing
4. Sharp SJPT591 (net 397 liter) - Pros: Price, plasmaculster, reliability, glass door, Cons: Door design (handle portion is hard to maintain)

Beside, is there anywhere that I can look for the energy consumption for the specific fridge model per annum basis?
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Panasonic NR-BW465 = nett capacity is 395L, the most energy "saving" fridge in the market.

Hitachi R-Z490EM-1 and Mitsubitshi MR-F47C and Sharp SJPT591 are categorised as energy "efficient".

you cannot compare panasonic with the 3 other brands because inverter vs non-inverter.

if you are the user who uses the freezer most of the time, then NR-BW465 doesnt suit you because it gives you trouble.

if you are the user who indeed very less frequent use the freezer, then NR-BW465 serves you nicely.

there is not pros or cons regarding the top freezer or bottom freezer.

more AT cars than MT cars now, why?

panasonic is changing the lifesyle.
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post May 24 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Titan_Gunners @ May 24 2012, 12:53 PM)
Bro, why are you say so??
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if people dont like the bottom freezer design, most of them have the same answer.

#yerr, i dont like, so mafan#

#err, i hear other sales reps say bottom freezer very fast rosak wan#

#eh, that shop tell me bottom freezer less colder than top freezer fridge#

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post May 24 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Titan_Gunners @ May 24 2012, 03:26 PM)
Yes, agreed with you...
Wife and me are >175cm and not regular use of freezer.
Thus, hard for us to bend to take thing from fridge... smile.gif
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people still prefer the top freezer design because they utilise the freezer compartment more than the vegetable/fruit compartment.


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post Jun 6 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(cheekily @ Jun 6 2012, 10:47 AM)
Hi all, have already narrowed down to 2 brands...just wondering, Hitachi or Panasonic is of better quality in terms of efficiency + long lasting (can last more than 3 or 5 years without any problem/breakdown)? Looking for fridge with capacity range of between 600-800L. Any advice?  smile.gif
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PANASONIC NR-BY602XS - nice~

HITACHI R-W750FPMX - nice~

both are inverter model.
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post Jul 9 2012, 08:56 AM

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Apple changes our lifestyle. So does Panasonic bottom freezer fridge bring us a new kitchen lifestyle.

The logic is simple, if the frequency of opening the freezer compartment is high, you stick to the traditional top freezer design and vice versa.

Some people still prefer manual transmission vehicle over auto transmission vehicle because they say "lebih jimat petrol".

Well, your choice.
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QUOTE(ke+vin @ Dec 8 2013, 02:34 AM)
Plan to get this model also . Can pm me what price u get plz . Thank
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Rm1700
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QUOTE(ychlee @ Mar 29 2014, 09:53 AM)
NR-BY602XS
how is the space overall?
motor operates in silent or can hear?
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NR-BY602XS has very quiet motor noise
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post Mar 30 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 29 2014, 11:20 PM)
well lol all i can say is in three words
small/ok/big..

for me its big in comparison to hitachi model i mention above.

602liter is the gross capacity. Net is 546liter.

in comparison to hitachi R-WB560P2M
Net is 455liter,

Panasonic
Width (mm) 775
Depth (mm) 745
Height (mm) 1846
Product Weight Net (kg) 86

Hitachi
Dimensions:
Width-75cm
Height-178cm
Depth-79.7cm

Side by side.. they look about the same in size

so went for panasonic....

incomparison for that panasonic... hitachi R-VG710P3M
Net 550liter.

i assume hitachi model number aka 560/710 etc denotes the gross weight.
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Hitachi R-VG710 is 580L nett capacity, it is slightly spacious than BY602.

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QUOTE(soyusa @ Mar 30 2014, 02:27 AM)
Panasonic NR-BY602XS much quite compare with most of the Hitachi fridge (e.g. R-VG710P3M)?
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Yes, it is much quieter but hitachi is more advanced in the inverter system.

Both. Rm2600. Same price.

Top freezer vs bottom freezer.
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post May 14 2014, 12:58 PM

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[quote=idoblu,May 12 2014, 08:50 AM]
Hitachi 3 doors has ice maker and inverter
Solfege R-SG37BPM - 365L - W590 x H1816 x D630. Rm2200
http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/re...tor#product_216

the promotion price for the above model is Rm1950.
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QUOTE(ozak @ May 14 2014, 01:13 PM)
Any promotion for Hitachi R-B6800M crystal brown fridge ?
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rm7500
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QUOTE(litnit @ May 14 2014, 07:34 PM)
i just book my Hitachi fridge, VG710P3M @RM27++. I am wondering is that a good price?
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