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post Jul 21 2008, 08:55 PM, updated 18y ago

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recently i got a Alpine V12 MRV-F340 below are the specs.

Alpine MRV-F340
Specs:-
* 55 watts RMS x 4 at 4 ohms
* 65 watts RMS x 4 at 2 ohms
* 130 watts RMS x 2 in bridged mode
* 2-, 3-, or 4-channel output
* Tri-Way capable
* requires 10-gauge power and ground leads wiring and hardware not included with amplifier
* Bass Engine features:
* variable 30-400 Hz high-pass/low-pass crossovers, 12 dB/octave
* rear channels have a subsonic filter at 15 Hz
* MOSFET power supply
* STAR Topology (minimizes internal noise and prevents ground interference)
* speaker- and preamp-level inputs
* preamp outputs
* oversized power and ground connections
* gold-plated screw terminals
* top mounted controls with cover
* detachable front cover
* blue power LED
* 10-3/8"W x 2-1/2"H x 12-3/8"D

i used 2 channel for tweeters and 2 channel for mid bass.. means tat i cant use this amp to push my woofer anymore? i havent buy my woofer yet la.

i need buy a 2chan/mono for my woofer now?
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post Jul 21 2008, 10:56 PM

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The answer is yes! you need another amp for you woofer...unless u want to use passive crossover for ur mid+tweeters with 2 channels and another 2 for woofer..

I prefer ur current setup and get another amp ..can tune better with e-crossover.

nice amp u got there..the original V12.
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post Jul 21 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jul 21 2008, 08:55 PM)
recently i got a Alpine V12 MRV-F340 below are the specs.

Alpine MRV-F340
Specs:-
* 55 watts RMS x 4 at 4 ohms
* 65 watts RMS x 4 at 2 ohms
* 130 watts RMS x 2 in bridged mode
* 2-, 3-, or 4-channel output
* Tri-Way capable
* requires 10-gauge power and ground leads wiring and hardware not included with amplifier
* Bass Engine features:
* variable 30-400 Hz high-pass/low-pass crossovers, 12 dB/octave
* rear channels have a subsonic filter at 15 Hz
* MOSFET power supply
* STAR Topology (minimizes internal noise and prevents ground interference)
* speaker- and preamp-level inputs
* preamp outputs
* oversized power and ground connections
* gold-plated screw terminals
* top mounted controls with cover
* detachable front cover
* blue power LED
* 10-3/8"W x 2-1/2"H x 12-3/8"D

i used 2 channel for tweeters and 2 channel for mid bass.. means tat i cant use this amp to push my woofer anymore? i havent buy my woofer yet la.

i need buy a 2chan/mono for my woofer now?
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what HU or xo you using? brows.gif
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post Jul 22 2008, 07:30 AM

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my HU is pioneer DEH-P6850MP, and i guess the HU can support passive setup only..

my setup now is plan to do a 2 channel for front comp set and bridge the other 2 channel for my woofer lor.. something like a 2.1 setup..

Gimme ur comments.. thanks..
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post Jul 22 2008, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jul 22 2008, 07:30 AM)
my HU is  pioneer DEH-P6850MP, and i guess the HU can support passive setup only..

my setup now is plan to do a 2 channel for front comp set and bridge the other 2 channel for my woofer lor.. something like a 2.1 setup..

Gimme ur comments.. thanks..
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bridge u only get 130w rms

what kind of woofer you want to use?
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post Jul 22 2008, 03:50 PM

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What type of car are you hooking it up to? sedan or hatchback? type of music? SQ, R&B or techno? If have budget go for 1 more additonal amp & run a full 2 or 3-way setup.
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post Jul 22 2008, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(athlonxp @ Jul 22 2008, 02:35 PM)
bridge u only get 130w rms

what kind of woofer you want to use?
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RF punch p1 woofers lo.. 150W/300W Max.

@MobyDick. Sedan, my Wira lo. SQ only. im playing passive, still can 2 way or 3 way setup?
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post Jul 22 2008, 08:58 PM

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2 way passive or 3 way passive also can wat.... but not active...tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2008, 11:04 PM

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can explain 2 way and 3 way passive meaning ka..? ahha..
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post Jul 22 2008, 11:48 PM

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go google it la.....
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post Jul 23 2008, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jul 22 2008, 11:04 PM)
can explain 2 way and 3 way passive meaning ka..? ahha..
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mean u use the passive crossover come together with ur component set
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post Jul 23 2008, 07:48 AM

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im using the passive crossover tat comes with my comp set now lo..
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post Jul 23 2008, 03:57 PM

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im using the same amp tongue.gif never let me down hehe

depends on ur component set then. compare its rms / nominal power is under 55W, then u can juz use two channels for the set n the bridge the other to for ur sub. like that of course u're not using ur sub at its potential, but you do save some money smile.gif

if ur comp needs >= 55W, then i suggest u get a monoblock la since its a pity if ure not using ur component's potential
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post Jul 23 2008, 08:18 PM

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stratos, mind to share the price of ur V12 amp and HU? since we are from miri.. just want to know current market price

btw, where did u buy the pioneer HU?
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post Jul 23 2008, 09:45 PM

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well im from miri hehe... i got the v12 amp for rm900 at union audio near emart there... other places around 1k
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post Jul 24 2008, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jul 22 2008, 08:05 PM)
RF punch p1 woofers lo.. 150W/300W Max.

@MobyDick. Sedan, my Wira lo. SQ only. im playing passive, still can 2 way or 3 way setup?
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where to get rockford fosgate punch P1 and P2 woofer?

u know the price?

This post has been edited by athlonxp: Jul 24 2008, 01:20 AM
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post Jul 24 2008, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(tasriri @ Jul 23 2008, 08:18 PM)
stratos, mind to share the price of ur V12 amp and HU? since we are from miri.. just want to know current market price

btw, where did u buy the pioneer HU?
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i bought it at RM750 only.. its used for a month plus only.. lucky me lor.. the previous owner bought it at Singapore after conversion is rm 1300. My pioneer HU i bought it here in LYN.

@dvlzplayground.. wow so many people from miri here.. ahhaa.. its a pretty good amp.. i always support alpine V12 and V-power amp.. the new PDX amp sound is superb but lack of bass. i tried it oredy ar Megashine tat day.

@athlonxp.. so far Miri only selling P1 12" woofer.. RM 600 for the woofer only and RM1k for the woofer and ori enclosure, with the cool silver air outlet design.. tats the price they gave me la.. confirm ori and not AP warranty. for AP warranty is RM 450 like tat i think.. not recommended tho..
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post Jul 24 2008, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jul 24 2008, 08:59 AM)
i bought it at RM750 only.. its used for a month plus only.. lucky me lor.. the previous owner bought it at Singapore after conversion is rm 1300. My pioneer HU i bought it here in LYN.

@dvlzplayground.. wow so many people from miri here.. ahhaa.. its a pretty good amp.. i always support alpine V12 and V-power amp.. the new PDX amp sound is superb but lack of bass. i tried it oredy ar Megashine tat day.

@athlonxp.. so far Miri only selling P1 12" woofer.. RM 600 for the woofer only and RM1k for the woofer and ori enclosure, with the cool silver air outlet design.. tats the price they gave me la.. confirm ori and not AP warranty. for AP warranty is RM 450 like tat i think.. not recommended tho..
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may i know is your alpine v12 and the new PDX uses which class amplifier? Class A/B or Class D?
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post Jul 24 2008, 10:03 AM

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For Wira sedan you can maintain your current setup for your existing 2-Way front passive component setup with some slight tweeking of your build-in active at your amps. Go for a single 12" woofer with full enclosure bridge matching your current amps output; tuned well & you should attain your desired SQ level in relation to your hardware. You can hook-up the rear speaker directly to the HU to provide some sort of staging for the rear passengers but keep the levels low so as not to 'cross' for the front listening pleasure.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jul 24 2008, 09:54 AM)
may i know is your alpine v12 and the new PDX uses which class amplifier? Class A/B or Class D?
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Class A/B for my V12.. the PDX i not sure.. Its class A/B also.. coz i remember see-ing the other PDX series is Class D mono.


Added on July 24, 2008, 2:47 pm
QUOTE(MobyDick @ Jul 24 2008, 10:03 AM)
For Wira sedan you can maintain your current setup for your existing 2-Way front passive component setup with some slight tweeking of your build-in active at your amps. Go for a single 12" woofer with full enclosure bridge matching your current amps output; tuned well & you should attain your desired SQ level in relation to your hardware. You can hook-up the rear speaker directly to the HU to provide some sort of staging for the rear passengers but keep the levels low so as not to 'cross' for the front listening pleasure.
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this is how i was planning to do as well.. 2.1 setup lo.. the shop i went too recommend me a full closed enclosure for my woofer box as well..

This post has been edited by StratOS: Jul 24 2008, 02:47 PM
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post Jul 24 2008, 05:43 PM

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Go for a ported enclosure which I'd think will complement your current amp.
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post Jul 24 2008, 05:50 PM

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why not sealed enclosure le?
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post Jul 24 2008, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jul 24 2008, 08:59 AM)
@athlonxp.. so far Miri only selling P1 12" woofer.. RM 600 for the woofer only and RM1k for the woofer and ori enclosure, with the cool silver air outlet design.. tats the price they gave me la.. confirm ori and not AP warranty. for AP warranty is RM 450 like tat i think.. not recommended tho..
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quite expensive..almost same price as alpine type s

or can get a pegasus PG1225 already and got some change left.. smile.gif

have u ever listen to that RF P1? how is the sound?


Added on July 24, 2008, 9:14 pm
QUOTE(StratOS @ Jul 24 2008, 05:50 PM)
why not sealed enclosure le?
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sealed box require extra rms to get it sound decent..like your woofer is 150rms, your amp must be more than that like 200rms to push it

of course this is just rough estimation, it is up to u

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post Jul 24 2008, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(athlonxp @ Jul 24 2008, 09:12 PM)
quite expensive..almost same price as alpine type s

or can get a pegasus PG1225 already and got some change left.. smile.gif

have u ever listen to that RF P1? how is the sound?


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sealed box require extra rms to get it sound decent..like your woofer is 150rms, your amp must be more than that like 200rms to push it

of course this is just rough estimation, it is up to u
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i listen to Punch P1, P2 and P3 b4.. P1 is very nice.. enough for entry level SQ.. P2 more to SPL and P3 also SPL oredy..

and the RMS not necessary need to be over the woofer RMS.. i ever see my fren go competition the amp after bridges is just around 160RMS can push a 200RMS woofer nicely.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jul 24 2008, 09:38 PM)
i listen to Punch P1, P2 and P3 b4.. P1 is very nice.. enough for entry level SQ.. P2 more to SPL and P3 also SPL oredy..

and the RMS not necessary need to be over the woofer RMS.. i ever see my fren go competition the amp after bridges is just around 160RMS can push a 200RMS woofer nicely..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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icic..

too bad never see people sell RF punch P1 in kuching wink.gif

ice ppl said if amp rms bigger than woofer will sound nicer wor..but i duno la..i ever try to use a 400rms woofer with 280w amp..it sound like shit and weak laugh.gif
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post Jul 25 2008, 07:38 AM

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coz tat really under power already i think.. i not sure also.. dun too low the the RMS differences.. i think mainly is more to the settings as well la..

The Punch P1 got 2 models ler.. 1 is the old type 1 o.. and another is the new 1 i think.. different design..
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post Jul 25 2008, 02:58 PM

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In-Car listening pleasure, In-Car techno, Jam-Zone Outer Car Techno or Competition SPL requires completely different setup procedures for amplifier Ohm-Bridging & Woofer-Flex to maximise application weather for listening or competition.
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like me if listening the amp setting will record down de.. coz when unplug the battery for more then few minutes the amp setting will be reseted..

 

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