oh wait, u need some ram sink on the vrm. I think the long ic is VRM rite? If not ur card is going to die.

anyone tried the driveR? I heard ppl saying it suck so bad compared to 8.7 beta.

no, xbox360 piracy is LESS compared to pc. And ppl cant play on live without original game and the banhammer on live is a point y piracy arent so great in 360.

I am running mine at 720/1000 modified MSI bios at 1.2v for weeks edi

just change those that is relevant, like normal 2d clock is 500/750, u can try to make it around 160/500 at 1v which will save little bit electric bill. Then for 3d clock, u can see 625/993 clock. Change it to 720/1000 and volt from "--" to 1.2v. The memory clock cant go pass 1000, if not will hang up. I dont know why, probably not enuf juice, need to do pencil voltmod.

Anything u can say about pc game but most of the ppl are admitting that they are coming to an end, not very soon perhaps. But u can see it after 5-10years. Whenever a new console comes out, it surpass the capability of the computer processing power. That time xbox 360 came out, and it outperform everything. Then only pc introduce core 2 duo then so on. Gaming on pc feel better becos u are sitting on a pc online chatting, surfing, do ur job. So by feel, it is normal to feel better. U can see everything going for multiplatform or developers migrate to console platform. Anyhow, i think gaming wise, console is much more hassle free, pay 1k, u enjoy all the next gen game rather than pay 3 to 4k to enjoy the same thing Maybe that's my feeling, but i have been on pc gaming since intel 486 proc days, i have seen the rise and glory of pc and the fall of it

This post has been edited by ben3003: Jul 22 2008, 07:29 PM

8.7 beta give a gain of 500marks in GPU score at least. I hard they say the driver version of 8.7 official is older than 8.7 beta, weird ya ..

True, my 6600gt agp running load at 95c, after 3-4 years, it is still working lolz.

That is normal one, dont care it. Becos the bios is not loaded straight from the card. I think only NiBiTor can load straight from card. What u care is the clock speed since all the cards are reference card.

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Added on July 23, 2008, 10:12 amBtw, microsoft has announced Directx 11, bad news bad news

http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/892/892734p1.html

This post has been edited by ben3003: Jul 23 2008, 10:12 AM

yup, directx is on vista, u can see it from the last paragraph:
As DirectX 10 runs only on Windows Vista, though, an operating system widely criticized for its stability problems and not particularly beloved by gamers, it remains to be seen whether DirectX 11 can increase the OS' penetration or whether Windows XP will remain the gaming operating system of choice.

It means that will directx 11 save vista and increase its OS' penetration among gamers.

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Added on July 23, 2008, 1:54 pmBtw, it is coming early 2009.

This post has been edited by ben3003: Jul 23 2008, 01:54 PM

agreed, synthetic benchmarks scores prove NOTHING, only Vantage can scale ur 3d card abit.

I got 1 question: I set the AA setting to 4x "Edge Detect" but it wont show any effect in GRID. I turn off the AA in GRID menu edi but still no effect.

y not? 4870 got better dual slot cooler le..

Naked setup doesnt justify anything.The air is properly dumb out from the back while the 4850 might have some air trapping behind. ANd also, the heatsink for 4870 is biggger, summore the fan is also bigger, of coz 4870 is giving better cooling at higher fan speed. U can see how puny is the 4850 fan.

This post has been edited by ben3003: Jul 24 2008, 11:17 PM

That's me! Yup, my 6600gt idle aroun 60-70c, load 95c, now still running good at my hometown. Last time is my bro using and he never off the comp and he do those 3d things alot.

edge detect rocks, i tried TF2 4xAA edge detect and the quality is really good, the edge is smooth enuf that u can really notice it.

yes, teh maximum is 8x, edge detect is like making it looks like 24x. Mean u only got 8x to select, but i think u off the one in COH and use the one on ATI CCC. If it wont works, maybe COH are using the different method on dealing with AA same as GRID where u cant set them at CCC.

for sure there is FPS loss, but i think almost the same FPS i got when it is off.

holy shit temp 2 85c, that is VRM temp. U better make it around 50-60c if not u gonna kill them.

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Added on July 27, 2008, 4:33 pmdid u use any fan or ramsink? DOn run the whole shit passively.

This post has been edited by ben3003: Jul 27 2008, 04:33 PM

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=65333

check it out urself whether they are VRM or not