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Veda
post Jan 8 2011, 10:57 PM

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I think many in this thread underestimated how good the rental is, in good locations in Klang Valley. A small room in a good location can fetch RM400-RM700 per month. A studio unit can fetch RM1500-RM2000. And the tenants are young locals, not expats. And when a tenant leaves, a replacement can be found within days. With good rental, there is a huge margin of safety against interest rate hikes. With good demand, an owner can hike up the rent when necessary.


Added on January 8, 2011, 11:08 pm
QUOTE(maxforce @ Jan 7 2011, 10:33 PM)
At the height of the tulip bubble, no one knew it was the peak.
Each time the tulip scenario is repeated and repeated.
Each time human nature said its different.
Each time, its no different.
Its only the human nature which has not changed.

Oh btw, I do play stocks, etc. Just dont chat. So, to those property speculators, you re not the only ones around tongue.gif
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What can one do with a tulip doh.gif

But with a property, one can stay inside .... and a roof over one's head is a basic need.

So yours is an apple and an orange comparison wink.gif


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Veda
post Jan 10 2011, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Jan 10 2011, 09:38 AM)
I've heard it all. "Bought the property for xxx"  now it's xx% more". But has anyone considered, that you aren't rich until you actually cash out? Despite the value on paper or in theory, it is worthless unless you can get the property off your hands.

And even for those who are successful at selling their houses, they tend to buy new ones, so their back in the game.

It's like gamblers who go to genting. You can win and win and win all day long,
but a majority always ends up, going home with their tails between their legs. People say it's because Genting has little devils, it's more likely, that the gamblers will never cash out, until they bum out.

If you want to know whether you can really become rich from Gambling, or property speculation, you need to ask 1 question.  Where is the money coming from?

Answer: Your own pockets.


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While looking for a place to rent for an out of town new colleague. I called a property, and the owner practically begged me to consider buying her property, almost crying. The location of the taman, wasn't half bad. and yet, nobody wants to buy her house, for ages.

Lately I passed by the house again, it has been overrun by weeds, the forsale/rent sign has deteriorated into nothing. The owner has obviously either died, or given up on it.  A money sink hole I say that one.

Not everyone gets rich.
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Mind sharing which Taman you were referring to?

Of course not everybody gets rich. There'll always be winners and losers. In my case, I make smart choices and make sure that I have a margin of safety ...... thus far I've never lost $ ..... my only regrets are I let some great opportunities slip cause I was too careful.

But you know who is the Automatic Loser? Someone who refuses to take any calculated risk or action to change his life ....someone who fears this and that ..... someone who is content to keep all his money in FD and slog to make The Boss rich rolleyes.gif

But nvm, society is being divided into "the haves" and "the have nots", with the middle class being squeezed out. I'm determined to join "the haves" but if someone insists on remaining with "the have nots" in the name of moral superiority etc, it's his choice.
Veda
post Jan 10 2011, 02:27 PM

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There quite a few upcoming developments in 2011 that excites me. I aim to buy at least one unit in 2011, and hopefully another in 2012 biggrin.gif
Veda
post Jan 10 2011, 02:39 PM

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The projects haven't been launched, so there's nothing to share. I'm eyeing PJ, Damansara, Sg Buloh.

Can refer to here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1198894&hl=
Veda
post Jan 13 2011, 02:30 PM

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1. The most vulnerable are the high end condos targeting expats in areas where there are many many projects nearing completion, like Mont Kiara and around KLCC.

2. There will always be demand for landed properties in good areas and the owners there have strong holding power, so this segment is generally safe.

3. The middle high and middle-cost high rises in good areas are also safe ....... there are people from all over Malaysia coming to Klang Valley every year, and they need a place to stay.

4. Of course, those who overpay for property (landed and high rise) in not-so-good/speculative locations are also vulnerable.

Now, the impression I get is those waiting for a property price drop are targeting 2. and 3. But if prices of 2. and 3. refuses to drop, will they buy 1. or 4.? hmm.gif

RPGT, if implemented, might hurt both flippers and first time buyers. The sellers will try to factor in the RPGT when selling ..... and in the end it's the buyers who's actually paying RPGT.


Veda
post Jan 17 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jan 17 2011, 11:39 AM)
lol@2012

if property continue rising, nobody would be able to afford them.. and when nobody buys..prices have to normalize itself to be in line with the buying power..right..thats what i think anyway.

the funny thing is, land is NOT scarce in Malaysia, we're not Hong Kong and Singapore. so what's the big hoohaa anyway.
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LOL. Yes, land not scarce. But many people feel they have the "right" to stay in good locations, don't want to stay in the outskirts, in the middle of nowhere rolleyes.gif


Added on January 17, 2011, 11:56 am
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 17 2011, 06:37 AM)
just read a long stockbroker report on commercial land/projects. they think the billions to be spent on mrt-lrt will jack up very high the commerical land price around those areas, so commercial props directly linked to the hotsopts will gain. i suppose residential units linked to these hubs will do relatively better than "remote" ones. maybe better buy these dev stocks rather than props!
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The same report also predicted that the land price in those hotspots will increase by up to 500% within 5 years.

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Veda
post Jan 17 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(vincentlee @ Jan 17 2011, 01:23 PM)
there are certain 'outskirt' area also experiencing incredible hike in price.
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Newer parts of Puchong? Desa Park City? brows.gif


Veda
post Jan 17 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(vectorian @ Jan 17 2011, 01:47 PM)
Go to iProperty can search for 'New Property' then sort it by newness at the top. Do this for KL and Selangor. Then think about those who just entered the workforce or middle income group.
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So the property prices must come down so that "those who just entered the workforce" can afford to buy property? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

The monstrous sense of entitlement of kids nowdays doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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