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Pai
post Feb 10 2011, 01:33 PM

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Punters normally make money from props during good times.

Real investors make money from prop market irrespective good or bad times.

For genuine home-owners........in most instance the earlier you buy, the better it is. Your goal is not to make money out of this exercise.....but to minimize your expenses, so getting in early is the key unless you have an ability to see the future. If you are trying to time for a drop but with no 100% certainty............then you r just a punter.
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post Feb 13 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(liyonglim @ Feb 10 2011, 10:36 PM)
Actually, you can't just compare people head to head. You are asking everyone at the age of 18 - 19 to go out pick-up and deliver newspaper? Do alot of odd job during 13?
In our life, there are a lot of decisions have to be made. I strongly believe, when someone at the age of 13 / 18, he or she should focus on hs her studies. (Remind you, not everyone is born genius, no need to study also can excel).
My point is, see who you are and do what is right for you. Focus on your responsibility and do what you should do when you are in your specific phase of life.
Remember, decisions are difficult to make and also "regret" is always there is the decision is made wrongly. (For example, go into selling newpapers telling yourself "don't worry, i can properly manage my time, i still can excel in my studies". Congrats for those who can do so, but sadly majority will either fail or cannot do well.
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Maybe ppl who experienced more hardship r forced to master the ability to multitask and get the job done ..... I’ll share a real story of a someone I know ……….

Like prop101's example, he started taking odd jobs since was in secondary school. Dont have the luxury of having parents paying good tuition, or go to good schools. Still managed to enter a local uni after SPM. Didnt use a single cent of his parents $$$ throughout 4-5 years in Uni, worked his butt off through-out uni to ensure he has enough money to eat, study and pay for his bike. He didnt get 1st class honors, but did enough to get a decent result and graduated.........perhaps could have gotten better result if he didnt have to work but honestly today I personally think that having the right attitude is far more important than getting a 1st class degree.....

Today still in his twenties, he works in an industry n role that is completely unrelated to his degree, earn a decent salary and doing a job that he loves. Like myself , he has always liked prop investing, self-studied the game n made his 1st million from prop investing (networth). Think today he also oversee 3 startup companies that he co-own n co-run.

Looking at him, he never focused on solely one thing at any time yet he isn’t doing that bad at all today. In fact his multitasking ability has become a valuable asset. People often ask him how did he achieved so much with little resources and time. He’ll always smile and then utter the following ………. “stop making excuses, and just start……………”

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post Feb 13 2011, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Feb 13 2011, 01:00 PM)
Good story and good point, this is a possibility in which the "others" may acquire their home...  but, I still have to reiterate this....

I metioned. The rise of property prices by speculators, is like we are on a sinking ship, and there are enough life boats. The first thing the speculators do is, to snatch as many life boats as they can. When the rest of the sailors are about to leave, they are told to either pay up, or swim to shore.

"Stop complaining, look at that guy, he's already reached the shore, perhaps you should have improved you swimming, now just put your back into it, I'm sure you can make it."

Saying this aboard their empty lifeboats which they had tied together into a floating platform.

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Chief, the example makes sense when there arent any life-boats or cheap housing anymore. As previously mentioned, there r cheap housing available if one is not choosy. No one forces anyone to pay half a mil for a new DSL when a 10 years old DSL within the same vicinity is at least 40% cheaper. Our prop price arent anywhere near HK, SG, China etc...........yet still ppl complaint?

Sometimes I felt ppl complaint as they felt that they r entitled for cheap housing. They somehow think gov, dev, and all prop buyers must ensure that the market adhere's to their own requirements. So instead of adjusting to the world, they want the whole world to adjust to their needs and wants................. and these r the same bunch who could have afford to buy properties for own stay 2 years ago but simply hold back as they are BETTING against the market................. only to see market has gone complete opposite against their bet.............. sweat.gif


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post Feb 14 2011, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Feb 14 2011, 04:02 PM)
He is contradicting himself. doh.gif why sell now if you expect price to go up for another few years?
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He is advocating ppl who has few properties to sell off when he himself (who has a few props) going into auctions n props viewing recently....... at least Azizi is walking the talk by selling off his holdings.......

Like this punya standard oso qualify as a guru ka? yawn.gif


Added on February 14, 2011, 6:01 pm
QUOTE(property101 @ Feb 13 2011, 11:21 PM)
Even when there is an opportunity for them, they are always saying: "wait...lets see how it goes first..."
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These r the NATOs............. wink.gif


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