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post Jul 5 2008, 08:29 PM, updated 18y ago

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I was wondering.. iPhone have been a year plus plus and yet.. People still get amazed seeing one.
So I was thinking, when will iPhone become outdated? Never? Few years time?
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post Jul 5 2008, 09:01 PM

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man, ive been addicted to this goddess phone from the 1st day i get it.. almost every time been thinking of doing mods upon it.. tongue.gif

talking bout outdated, yes iphone soon gonna be outdated but only god knows when. as current, there is new apps keep on coming, iphone fever would never reach the end..

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wait till nokia and sony e goes touch screen for standard phone then will the iphone be outdated. not just yet.
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post Jul 5 2008, 09:31 PM

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What makes iPhone different from other phones i.e nokia, SE, HTC, WinMo PDA Phones?

It's not the hardware or touch screen. It's the OS behind it. As long as apple makes improvement to its mobile OS then i think iPhone will not be obsolete anytime soon. If Nokia, SE, HTC and others still using WinMo or Symbian OS then they are not a competition to iPhone OS. The only rival that can challenge iPhone OS is the Android OS from Google (even it's also resemble iPhone).

ps - the design also plays a role in the phone survival.

Just my 2 cents
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post Jul 5 2008, 09:38 PM

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It not going to be so early...as long app store keep running smoothly..
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post Jul 5 2008, 09:41 PM

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i can see more and more mobile phone makers moved towards that market.

look at Samsung, HTC & LG. they seems following iPhone trend.
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post Jul 5 2008, 09:43 PM

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Grr I feel so sad when my dad scratched the back of my phone T.T Oh well.
I can't get tired of this phone. Whenever I'm bored.. I'm just gonna stare at it, or unlock for fun then simply tap any app biggrin.gif
I heard Nokia and many more phone producers are trying to imitate iPhone tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SheepMekk @ Jul 5 2008, 09:43 PM)
Grr I feel so sad when my dad scratched the back of my phone T.T Oh well.
I can't get tired of this phone. Whenever I'm bored.. I'm just gonna stare at it, or unlock for fun then simply tap any app biggrin.gif
I heard Nokia and many more phone producers are trying to imitate iPhone tongue.gif
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Wow,stare at de iphone...OMG...

Nokia is start to make S60 touch,it is good news for ppl want to buy touch screen phone

with legal way...Samsung already start 3 or 4 phone like instinct and other..
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post Jul 5 2008, 09:51 PM

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In the iPhone 3G guide, that dude speaking played racing game and your iphone is like a steering =.= The game runs smoothly! But on 2.0 software. I wonder if 8GB iPhone can play that game with lag-free or not sad.gif Anyone know? =x
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post Jul 5 2008, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Jul 5 2008, 09:31 PM)
What makes iPhone different from other phones i.e nokia, SE, HTC, WinMo PDA Phones?

It's not the hardware or touch screen. It's the OS behind it. As long as apple makes improvement to its mobile OS then i think iPhone will not be obsolete anytime soon. If Nokia, SE, HTC and others still using WinMo or Symbian OS then they are not a competition to iPhone OS. The only rival that can challenge iPhone OS is the Android OS from Google (even it's also resemble iPhone).

ps - the design also plays a role in the phone survival.

Just my 2 cents
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Actually no, its not really the OS behind it either. Its the usability concept of the phone that determines it all. Same goes for the applications that resides on the phone as well, its the usability of it that determines the success. The OS and the available SDK's role is just to help make life easier for the developers.
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QUOTE(cattivo @ Jul 5 2008, 09:41 PM)
i can see more and more mobile phone makers moved towards that market.

look at Samsung, HTC & LG. they seems following iPhone trend.
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yepp, there is new samsung phone size only as large as bussiness card but abit thick laa & also fully touch screen..
its using what arr, the seller said lynx, or something like that..


QUOTE(fyire @ Jul 5 2008, 09:58 PM)
Actually no, its not really the OS behind it either. Its the usability concept of the phone that determines it all. Same goes for the applications that resides on the phone as well, its the usability of it that determines the success. The OS and the available SDK's role is just to help make life easier for the developers.
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hmm i agree with mr. frozzy, the OS playing important role. i do remember using oldskoll ipac with win mobile. sometimes easily get hang or freeze same goes to my friend o2 atom xda. the only phone OS almost STABLE all time were the symbian. i use the symbian s60 & nokia n9300(forgot the version OS) & installed alot 3rd apps. very less hang/ freeze.
if iphone use the symbian/ win mobile, its not worth to get as it would much alike those ordinary phone. iphone mean to be osx, thats what make the different.. IMO
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QUOTE(fyire @ Jul 5 2008, 09:58 PM)
Actually no, its not really the OS behind it either. Its the usability concept of the phone that determines it all. Same goes for the applications that resides on the phone as well, its the usability of it that determines the success. The OS and the available SDK's role is just to help make life easier for the developers.
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NO disrespect to mods but where does the usability concept of the iPhone comes from if not from the OS itself. The ease of use and intuitive UI comes from the OS and been complimented by the hardware. This is what google did with Android. They develop the OS first and it will later cater to a wide range of hardware from the OHA (Open Handset Alliance). SDK's are just tools for developers to easily create apps for the intended platform and I agree with you about the success of an app depends on its usability.

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post Jul 5 2008, 10:48 PM

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Do you see iPods outdated? iPod has been out for so long already still the favorite of many people.

iPhone will be outdated when there's a mobile phone company come out with fully-voice-control mobile phone
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People love new innovations. iPhone is the first phone with that look, feel & functions. Furthermore, it is limited to some area in the world to legally own it. It's something cool to own a phone like that.

For example, my Sis bored with NOK*A because it has tooo many models. and its is too common for a user to use a NOK*A. So far, there's only 1 iPhone =)

My 2 kupang =P
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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Jul 5 2008, 10:41 PM)
NO disrespect to mods but where does the usability concept of the iPhone comes from if not from the OS itself. The ease of use and intuitive UI comes from the OS and been complimented by the hardware. This is what google did with Android. They develop the OS first and it will later cater to a wide range of hardware from the OHA (Open Handset Alliance). SDK's are just tools for developers to easily create apps for the intended platform and I agree with you about the success of an app depends on its usability.

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Actually no. You're mixing up the differences between the various layers here. At the very core, the OS is just the OS, where it enables something to run. The user interface is something that is built on top of the OS, where if you mess this up, you mess up the entire thing. The OS allows for the user interface that you see to be created, but that's about it. Try playing around with Xcode's Interface Builder, and you'll find that without the right amount of planning put into your interface design, you can still very much mess up the usability aspect of any application that you wish to build.

What I'm really addressing here is the misconception that as long as the OS is done properly, that's all there is to the usability aspect of it, but there's much more to it all than just the OS. In fact, try hunting through Apple's developer documentations, and you'll find one long and very complete document dedicated to just user interface design guidelines, of which shows the importance of not relying too much on the OS' looks and feels to do everything for you.


Added on July 5, 2008, 11:12 pm
QUOTE(gengstapo @ Jul 5 2008, 10:10 PM)
if iphone use the symbian/ win mobile, its not worth to get as it would much alike those ordinary phone. iphone mean to be osx, thats what make the different.. IMO
here's something else to think about as well. even if the iphone has got a relatively stable OS, but uses the same sort of user interface as symbian or winCE, you'll still run into the same sort of complains.

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post Jul 5 2008, 11:48 PM

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Even the older Macs still impress alot people now ..
It's due to the market in Malaysia are very very much dominated by PC users ..
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post Jul 6 2008, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(SheepMekk @ Jul 5 2008, 09:43 PM)
I heard Nokia and many more phone producers are trying to imitate iPhone tongue.gif
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Worse case scenario is those china phones... cry.gif
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post Jul 6 2008, 01:56 AM

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iphone had already made its success entry for touchscreen categories.

No brand in the moment can outwit the fluid interface of iphone. no doubt they keep trying and the touch diamond is actually very near.

to me, iphone already made so many mobile brands to change their phone interface. if iphone didnt exist, i dont think HTC will come out with touch or nokia will develop its touchtube. 1 small phone already made so many thing happen.

it will outdated in terms of features... but iphone will live as a benchmark for other phone. if not.. where got such thing as iphone killer? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Kenix L @ Jul 6 2008, 01:00 AM)
Worse case scenario is those china phones... cry.gif
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believe me, ppl who never have/ cant differentiate between iphone & china iphone someday might come to iphone tread asking for help.. zzZZzz rclxms.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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i actually thinking of buying a KO one to play around... lol!
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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jul 6 2008, 08:13 AM)
i actually thinking of buying a KO one to play around... lol!
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kewL mann, later can do some review for us tongue.gif
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next month.. hahahaha
not cheap u know.. rm500-650
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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jul 6 2008, 08:13 AM)
i actually thinking of buying a KO one to play around... lol!
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KO set?you mean china set or Brick set? biggrin.gif
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china set la.. hahahaha...
at least that one no nid so sayang mah... and definitely better speaker brows.gif
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QUOTE(potion @ Jul 5 2008, 09:15 PM)
wait till nokia and sony e goes touch screen for standard phone then will the iphone be outdated. not just yet.
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By the time the bolded parts happened, Apple would have already invented a phone that uses 3D projection etc lol and implement virtual reality system such as seen in Bourne Minority, Iron Man haha

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well, if you all think that the multi-touch interface on the iPhone is great, you'll have to realize that Apple's only currently scratching the surface of what's really possible with multi-touch.

Check out this presentation from a researcher at NYU:

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jeff_ha...ouchscreen.html

And at the same time, do keep in mind that that presentation was done back in 2006 too.

Remember Iron Man the movie, with the 3D CAD system that he was using to design his armor? Multi-touch is merely the first step in making such interfaces possible, as you'll first need to have a user input system that accepts multiple points of differing types of input (such as movement direction, movement patterns, pressure, etc) simultaneously.

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Bourne Minority, Iron Man haha
What is that?


Added on July 7, 2008, 10:50 am
QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jul 6 2008, 02:33 PM)
china set la.. hahahaha...
at least that one no nid so sayang mah... and definitely better speaker brows.gif
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Ok mah.... if i got extra $, i also will adopt one kikikiki.... I also have one bricked iphone and already become my dismantling subject.... Not easy oh....

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Nah, one way or another, the first iPhone will always leave its legacy and mark on the world. So whether or not it goes outdated in another, say 2-3 years time, everyone will always admire and love the first ever "revolutionary" phone from Apple which started the whole finger-touch craze. I know I will happy.gif It'll be going down in history!!
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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jul 6 2008, 02:33 PM)
china set la.. hahahaha...
at least that one no nid so sayang mah... and definitely better speaker brows.gif
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China phones speaker can hear even u r 9 blocks away... drool.gif
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nokia,SE,moto or samsung can outdate faster than iphone.

reason?

the have at least 12phones in line; 3 for each quarter averagely... and iphone only have... erm... 1 from last year... and iphone 3g for this year.

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Nope... iphone already have 5 product... 1st gen 4gb, 8gb & 16gb, 3G 8gb, 16gb and soon 32gb.... ahahahaaa... just kidding!! after all, its only a memory makes difference and networks avail... but overall, its still an iphone and considered single product untill the shape change... it will b outdated sumday but not so fast.. at least 5 times than single noks. or more....
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To answer Jaslyn :

iPhone = 1 product
3G iPhone = 2nd product

4gb 8gb 16gb and so on is the "different capacity of the product" = =
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it depends on how you judge it urself..... relax.... im just kidding bout that memory size above.... dont take it seriously bro... tuck ur wing back icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(JasLyn @ Jul 9 2008, 08:33 AM)
Nope... iphone already have 5 product... 1st gen 4gb, 8gb & 16gb, 3G 8gb, 16gb and soon 32gb.... ahahahaaa... just kidding!! after all, its only a memory makes difference and networks avail... but overall, its still an iphone and considered single product untill the shape change... it will b outdated sumday but not so fast.. at least 5 times than single noks. or more....
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u manyak kacau... u know i say about phone model instead of capacity right?


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iPhone outdated? hmm..i suppose one day..but it has already achieve cult status!! smile.gif

jz like the first Motorola flip phone(star tac!!)
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QUOTE(tayhaithian @ Jul 9 2008, 08:55 AM)
To answer Jaslyn :

iPhone = 1 product
3G iPhone = 2nd product

4gb 8gb 16gb and so on is the "different capacity of the product"  = =
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what dya mean by 3G iPhone got 2 product? u referring into capacity or what?
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Obviously he means capacity lah...the 8GB and the 16GB 3G iPhone.
Back to the topic, as long iPhone still support higher firmware with new 3rd party applications it won't be outdated.
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QUOTE(Joelles @ Jul 9 2008, 01:48 PM)
Obviously he means capacity lah...the 8GB and the 16GB 3G iPhone.
Back to the topic, as long iPhone still support higher firmware with new 3rd party applications it won't be outdated.
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in that case, 1st gen got 3 model la; very 1st 4gb, followed by 8gb & the newly 16gb
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iphone at any time of the day, is always a step higher than conventional mobile phones.

it will take some time for their competitors to catch up in terms of technology.
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I feel that it will take a very long time for iPhone to get outdated. No matter how many times I look at it, I still feel its special
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iphone outdate ady now.. coz got iphone 3g...


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post Jul 11 2008, 01:34 AM

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the 1st gen iphone will not be produced anymore...now is the 3g era!

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