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post Oct 17 2008, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 17 2008, 04:01 PM)
Need advices…

Got this 3 stray kittens with their mom..they’re about 5 weeks now…and I’m planning to bring them for their 1st vaccination mebe next week..but if their vaccinated, then they wont be able to nurse from their mother anymore..since she is a stray cat, a bit hard if to get her vaccinated too rite? Kinda sorry for them if stop nursing since they’re still very small..

Do u guys think that I should just go ahead and vaccinate them or wait for awhile?

Do u know any place around selangor that charges for the vaccination is cheap ( around rm20-30 per cat) ? (apart from the government clinic lah  )
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Mizeily, first of all, why do you want to vaccine them at the age of 5 weeks (1 month 1 week) ?

A normal kitten will be vaccine when they are 8 weeks (2 months old). They must be in good health, and good body weight.

A kitten that is born without mother (orphan) since born which means they never tasted mother milk will be vaccine at age of 6 weeks. This is call "Temporary vaccination for kittens". But this vaccine, most people will not do it. because nobody knows about it. even the vet didnt mention the full structure of how vaccine should be done. in other ways, its rarely happened.

One of Vaccination failure is: The Cat is Too Young or is Unhealthy - It is essential that the cat have a functional immune system in order to respond to the vaccine challenge. If the immune system is very immature, such as a very young animal, or if the patient has a disease which is suppressing the immune system, the vaccine will have little or no effect in stimulating immunity. If the patient has a fever, the immune system will be so "occupied" with the fever that it will respond poorly to the vaccine.

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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 17 2008, 04:41 PM)
eh..no lah..not at 5 weeks...i was planning to do it at 6 weeks smile.gif

cuz my mom said they got germs...nnti jangkit the other kittens ( got 2 other 5months old kittens that has already completed the 3rd vaccination tongue.gif )

ow..so can wait for a couple more weeks lah? smile.gif
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if i were you, i will still wait till 8 weeks come. while waiting, always remember to deworm them, because deworm start at the age of 6 weeks , 8 weeks, 12 weeks, and follow by every 3/6 months a year.

then you can vaccine the kittens together with their mom. since mommy is also there, why not vaccine her too later own.

other cats that already completed full vaccine for the first year will have less effect on non vaccine cat. unless that vaccine have not complete everything then its very easy to "berjangkit".

always make sure they are clean and their place is clean too smile.gif

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post Oct 17 2008, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 17 2008, 04:49 PM)
erm..cuz the mummy doesnt like to stay in a cage..i just let her loose outside n couple of times a day let her in the house to nurse her babies...

if i dewormed them, then when they nurse with their mummy, they can get worm again rite? if i deworm the mother also, she can easily get worm again since she's a stray..rite?
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yaiks the mom still outdoor cat ah?!?!?! the very high percentage of getting infected eheheh... i thought all your cats are fully indoor.

yes, a mom that never deworm, when the kitten suckling her for milk, worm can go into the kitten via the nipples.

all cats will have worms. outdoor cat will carry more than indoor cat.

when u said the mother go outside the house ... the only thing that worry me she's getting pregnant again sad.gif female cat can get pregnant again after labor cry.gif

if you see the kitten start chewing or eating kibbles, now they only need less milk. go get kitten food... and maybe petshop pet milk for supplement. mother can rest by now.. and spay her please. else more kittens will come cry.gif
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Oct 17 2008, 05:25 PM)
mmm...the mom has already started mating again  sad.gif

if i want to spay her, do i have to wait bout a month after she finish nursing or can do it rite away?

so the kittens can stop nursing lah ye?

they already start eating kibbles smile.gif
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yaiks!!! mating again!!! too bad, she may be pregnant again... and maybe not yet.

u do not have to wait for more time, since the kitten can already eat by them self... just make sure it is kitten kibbles.

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post Oct 17 2008, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(jinkinz @ Oct 17 2008, 05:51 PM)
no lar didnt throw away cats quality
just tat they are hard 2 train.
or perhaps my cat got problem
lol..
previous cat smarter.

dono should i say he dumb or obedient...
if i open the front door , he will never rush out...
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yea you cannot get rid the nature tongue.gif just like human also, activity such as "putting your finger in the nose" eheheh u cannot get rid of that, that is nature of us.. tongue.gif

same like cat also, u cannot get rid of climbing, scratching, etc.

p/s cat love high places smile.gif
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QUOTE(Azzat.x @ Oct 17 2008, 08:40 PM)
thanks for your info!
i guess i've misunderstood fleas and lice. its fleas actually.
geram betul , banyak sangat fleas and my kitten keep scratching and scratching.
rasanya fleas tu semua comes from the mama.
because the mama tu i tak jaga betul2 , kucing jalanan. let go macam tu je.
and is the FRONTLINE spray tu toxic? what if my kitten bersihkan diri and accidently
terjilat the liquid?  sweat.gif
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No lah, if frontline is too dangerous, it will be BAN forever tongue.gif

All you need to ask your vet or read the back pack for instruction.

FRONTLINE Plus is ideal for use on puppies and kittens 8 weeks of age or older. Not only does FRONTINE Plus kill up to 100% of adult fleas on your pet within 24 hours, it also contains a special ingredient that kills flea eggs and larvae to keep ALL stages of fleas from developing and bothering your pet and your family. FRONTLINE Plus completely breaks the flea life cycle by effectively stopping the development of new fleas. And, FRONTLINE Plus kills all stages of 4 major ticks, including the one that may carry Lyme disease.

FRONTLINE Spray can be used on puppies and kittens 8 weeks of age or older and provides a quick and effective way of eliminating large flea and tick infestations already on your animal. FRONTLINE Spray is ideal for reducing and controlling fleas and ticks in multi-pet households. With severe infestations, many vet clinics will apply fast-acting FRONTLINE Spray to your pet right in the clinic and then recommend at-home follow-up with the long-lasting control of FRONTLINE Plus or FRONTLINE Top Spot®.

For more info go to http://frontline.us.merial.com/home/index.asp
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 17 2008, 11:05 PM)
I see... But good or not?

I was thinking to save a few bucks on the flea treatment cuz spent so much already on food, litter, milk, vet...

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sorry the one i used is HARTZ spray type... they are good too.. but that time, hartz do not have spot on in kl yet... so then i found frontline spot on, i stop using the spray.

i bet spot on is the same with spray too...

p/s aren't hartz for cat is green in color? hartz website showing green for cat, while purple for dogs.
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post Oct 18 2008, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(-gemini- @ Oct 18 2008, 08:00 AM)
hi guys,
may i know u guys' way of toilet trainin ur cats?
better get real life experience answers  tongue.gif
pls share if u guys dont mind
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hehehe... toilet or litter? if toilet i cannot help.. because all my cats using litter box blush.gif
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 18 2008, 09:41 AM)
Guys, my DLH keep scratching here and there, bite here and there and here and there means its body. Sign of fleas?
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its can be sign of anything. almost all insect parasites and even parasites leaving itchy skin, red spot on skin, and falling fur.

even if a person said "my cat is free from all types of parasites"... i never believe that person eheheh...

if your cat living in a quarantine box room with glass window with no holes on the wall, then i will believe eheheh..

even mosquitoes bite can bring parasites on your cat. so it is impossible to be free from all of that thing right.

even my cats still have mites.

maybe u can try frontline spot on, since it is waterproof and last longer on cat body. it 1 pack has 3 tubes, u can apply like 3 times a year on your cat for protection against it.

i know how u feel when looking your cat itchy, even myself get paranoid and out of the blue im scratching myself like a cat with no reason LOL...
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 18 2008, 09:55 AM)
Wah, long time not visiting here, already V3...wooo...
Anyway, my cat juz gave birth to 3 kittens...1 died caused by suffocation of the plasenta...it stuck in it's face...poor fella...what I'm concerned is, it's only 5 days after giving birth and my cat already in heat again...what can I do El?
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asieeyyy long time no see laa... sombong sudah tongue.gif

congratulation and sorry for your new kittens..

yes a mother can even get pregnant and on heat 24 hours after labor. "nafsu binatang kan" ehehehe

the only thing u can do it to quarantine her and her kittens for like about 1 month plus. don't let her go out, else 99.99% chances of pregnancy occur again. and that will be so sad.

some female cat that get pregnancy after few days/weeks of labor won't live long.. because of the stress, and body condition. oh well, put it this way, the cat baru saja beranak, then mengandung lagi, everything inside such as peranakan, etc is not build well. this will lead to miscarriage.

i ever saw people helping pregnant stray. when the labor finish, they keep for like 10 days, then spay the mother. and they will bottle feed the kittens.
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 18 2008, 02:52 PM)
I see... Thanks!

Will reconsider again...

Ermmm, not sure plak, cuz all I see is purple color, no green color pun hmm.gif

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Toilet train??

Cannn...!!!

Try - Litter Kwitter!

Looks like marvellous! Even I hope to try it one day when my pocket permits smile.gif

Check it out: www.litterkwitter.com

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if i have my own house, i will build this kind of toilet for the cats in their room.. by using my own bathroom now which attach to the toilet, i don't think my cats will like that because mine will always be wet floor..

i wonder if we have to demo to the cats on how to seat on that toilet LOL doh.gif
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QUOTE(spidergirl @ Oct 18 2008, 03:21 PM)
Litter Kwitter looks awesome!

Not sure my old maid is willing to share same toilet as my cats, lol.

But hey, thanks for the awesome info!
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maid will end up poop and pee in the litter kwitter as well .. LOL tongue.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 18 2008, 02:52 PM)
I see... Thanks!

Will reconsider again...

Ermmm, not sure plak, cuz all I see is purple color, no green color pun hmm.gif

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you try the hartz spot on, and let me know ya..

SKY: me also want, i want i want!

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QUOTE(spidergirl @ Oct 18 2008, 03:33 PM)
Eww..hahaa!

Did you guys watch the youtube video in the website? There's this leopard skinned cat..OMG! Where can I get those? Ooo... wub.gif

As I'm typing this forum, Hitam just head to her fav random spot, inside TV cabinet, on top of my DVD player. My astro rosak a few months before cos she keeps sitting on it. This cat ar..aiya!  shakehead.gif  Always choose awkward space to sit. Pokok berduri la, atas almari tinggi... She'll turn 12 next month btw.

My other cat, Oren just recovered from fungus infection. The root of his tail start to 'botak' and he keeps biting his own tail until it bleeds. The doc said cos its too itchy for him. Now after consuming anti-inflammation liquid, he's recovering quite fast!
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leopard skinned cat? a domestic cat with that coat pattern is it? then its bengal... (have to see the body type aswell, because some cross breed with bengal can also produce spotted coat).

eheheh Hitam oh hitam... why so naughty sampai rosak kan astro... wah birthday next month lah ye smile.gif

oren i wish you recover 100% soon smile.gif

p/s to all the cat, give spidergirl a break, she need rest for awhile tongue.gif

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Oct 18 2008, 04:19 PM)
what is 'kucing hutan' ?
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errrkk wild cats... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 18 2008, 04:30 PM)
Aiyak!!me sombong kaaa?U laa never online YM nemore...bz kaaa... biggrin.gif
Oooo so kurung la ye...even if she's doing the cute muka kesian one?My mom la cannot tahan when she make that muka kesian...she will release her and there she goes running n calling males...damn!!
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ehehehe invisible lor tongue.gif

eerrkk senang je your case ni. sama ada you prefer to have unwanted kittens or prefer to stop your female cat from breeding again. are you willing to have and care for more kittens? if no, then you must take action now, before terlanjur and you end up tak dapat jaga dan kittern terabai.
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QUOTE(AbBy_C @ Oct 18 2008, 05:03 PM)
My cat seems to non-stop meowing...after food, water, everything, but still the same. He's 3 months old.
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so hard to tell... u need to make your own research else go to vet.

u can easily determine their sound into like, attention meow, calling meow, pain meow, horny meow, angry meow, bothering meow, etc.

if it is pain, u can see via their action too.. like vomit, sleep all the time, seat and hug their own body, hard to run, hard to walk..

if it is a new kitten, and a lone ranger, than its normal lah tongue.gif they afraid of something thats why they making loud sound. they make sound if boring too.. like no friends. oh well, kitten like to be in group, but when they are getting older, they become territory.
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QUOTE(AbBy_C @ Oct 18 2008, 06:05 PM)
attention meow kot.

he still active at home. but dunno why meowing non stop.
aiyoo so susah hatilah like this. cannot understand them.

he will only eat if we put on our palm then only he eat.
hard to drink water.
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yea sound like attention meow with alil bit bad mood meow.

kitten/cat yang bosan always create all this thing to have attention...

what do you mean "hard to drink water"? your kitten kurang minum air? if yes, u better bring check up.. now im feeling he/she having urine system problem. lack of water can cause alot of thing, because cat eats kibbles. he/she may get bladder stone (crystal dalam saluran kencing), and the worst killer is kidney problem.

not to scare you off, but yet i still recommend to have a check up at the vet, before something wrong happen. at least you know and do something rather than leave the kitten suffer (if he/she sick lah kan). if vet said 100% healthy then kurang lah rasa curiga and your kitten sure be happy to have owner bring them for regular check up. icon_rolleyes.gif

p/s kucing yang rasa kurang selesa or something wrong with them, will also CALLING for attention. As if he/she is trying to tell you something about them. like my cat long time ago, meowing non stop, and one day i spot him in the litter box berbunyi bising, pergi vet, rupa nya ada bladder stone in early stage. lucky me, lucky him, we manage to go to the vet waktu kesakitan dia at early stage = cheaper lah dari kalau penyakit tu dah serious.

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Oct 18 2008, 06:36 PM)
Biasanya kucing nak attention camtu kucing sakit...betol x brader el??? tongue.gif
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a'ah ada kesakitan, stress, frust, haru biru, jiwa kacau, makan tak kenyang mandi tak basah... terlebih sudaa! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AbBy_C @ Oct 18 2008, 07:20 PM)
oh.... i just brought my baby to c vet last week. the vet said my baby in good health condition.

how much water is ok for my baby?

i still give him milk twice a day. izit ok?
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very hard to tell how much they should drink a day. but pee 3-4 times a day is good enough. rather just pee one time. u can easily see how much they pee by looking at when the litter clay clump.

milk? how old is your kitten anyway? milk can cause diarrhea so becareful.

if u provide kitten food such as royal canin baby cat, skip that milk...

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