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post Sep 5 2008, 02:44 PM

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you boys and girls scare me lah tongue.gif tak senang tidur i, asyik tengok pintu rumah takut di ceroboh.

anyway, i might let any good owner here adopt my Mia..

why not right, if you are a good owner and willing to give more love to Mia, more than i do... its good for her smile.gif

so show me some love, so i can let any of you adopt Mia rclxms.gif wub.gif
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post Sep 5 2008, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(HappyKat @ Sep 5 2008, 03:56 PM)
de last time i cut my kuching nails when dia kecik lagi I think when he was less than 2 mths old.  Senang aje..No struggle.
But, recently I do it again now, dah 4 bulan boi....bukan susah nya.  Belum dalam sentuh kuku dah di gigit nya..so you
know what I did?

I potong them mase dia tidur...perlahan lahan dan diam diam potong aje...senang...tapi dia pun ade buka mata jenguk
sikit tapi tak agresif...

BUt, I notice something ganjil, the kaki belakang I potong dulu tu masih pendek lagi...tak macam kuku kaki depan
panjang dan deadly....dat day kena cakar sampai berdarah...

Hey, Elf, you prasan ke...sebab bila I nak potong kuku kaki belakang eh....pendek lagi...macam lah tumbuh
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yeap i perasan. u want to know why? because cat don't scratch/cakar using kaki belakang tongue.gif they only cakar using the front legs. eheheh sebab tu kuku belakang dia mudah tumpul dan mati.

u need to know that, cat scratch to make their nails sharp, easier for them to climb the trees and hunt for predator.

cut the infront nails, memang cepat tumbuh balik. obvious dorang akan cakar guna kaki depan.

yang belakang tu just for running, and garu leher/kepala.

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QUOTE(HappyKat @ Sep 5 2008, 05:02 PM)
O I C biggrin.gif everyday is a learning experience  biggrin.gif

Also 2 malam ago I put Spot On kat dia.  Normal ke dia sikit groggy?

Sebab bisa nya malam2 rampage dia, active sangat tapi after put obat terus
macam tak ada mood nak main, tak lart dia nak bernakal asyik nak tidur aje.

Must be the obat punya reaction agak nya
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yeap spot on reaction. ye lah racun pembunuh kutu kan.. akan buat body lemah sikit. but its alright smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(HappyKat @ Sep 5 2008, 11:34 PM)
Hey all the songkoks an the smilies are all gone  tongue.gif


Added on September 6, 2008, 1:00 am
Petang tadi baru bawa Happy vaccinate 4 in 1, health checkup buat deworm, ear mites extermination.

Wanted to take blood untuk FIV/FLV testing...but tak jadi coz dia betul betul mengamuk vmad.gif
sampai macam harimau liar ohmy.gif when the the jarum kena dia punya leher, sudah menjadi liar.
tak pernah I nampak dia begitu ganas. bagai nak gigit vet perempuan itu.
I am really so scared for her and her assistant ohmy.gif

Because he is so distress by the sharp pain in the neck area blood extraction was not successful
as the vet is worried the needle will poke lain tempat sebab struggle terlalu agresif. I pun dekat
nak pengsan with the commotion in the vet  rclxub.gif

But, cucuk the 4 in 1 ok  tongue.gif sebab kat tempat less sensitive agaknya.

I doubt he will allow to poke the neck area whether now or future. so how?

I thought when I neuter him next month maybe when he is under general anasthethic
boleh lah ambil darah dia.  I wonder if this could be done.  I sakit hati tengok my kucing suffer di cucuk kat leher tu sad.gif

Anyway, vet has given him a clear bill of health... rclxm9.gif and Happy weighs a healthy 2.5kg at 4mths old biggrin.gif

Gemuk tak dia blink.gif

Just for the benefit of others who may want to board their cats during their Raya holidays...the vet that
I will be boarding my cat is charging RM25 per night ( at Sri Hartamas ) and another one at Damansara Heights
RM15 per night but, I don't quite like this place sebab their cage kecik betul and the dog kennel are just next
to it.  Kat Hartamas they separate cats & dogs.

At Sri Hartamas bersih, terang and have much larger cage. tak pe lah...pay a bit more so my Happy selesa dan happy biggrin.gif
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congrats on your kitten first medical check up smile.gif

i strongly advice you to do it one after another. i mean, do the vaccine first, and after that (maybe the following month or two) the FIV blood test. I'm pretty sure next month you have to bring for second vaccine jab right.

unpredictable behavior is normal for cat. your kitten might feel something going through his/her skin after vaccine. and suddenly another one going through, for sure he/she freak out.

i may not want to continue this. because, like i always say, cat is very emotional, once he/she hates it, he/she will hates it forever. you might not want to stress the kitten at early age. at this small age, one simple things that make he/she do not like - will make them "do not like" it forever.

since the age is 4 months old, and i think you just got that kitten right? it is important to build the trust between you and the kitten. to see this trusting behavior, you will see your kitten/cat will look for you if there's something wrong. if you cat run away without letting you know, then thats mean they do not trust you yet.

like in the vet, my cats will jump on me (carry like a baby), because they scare with the environment. i will have to hold them by myself, if the vet hold them - sure mengganas tongue.gif

anyway my cats are all spoil brads tongue.gif i treated them too much like a human, spend too much on them, paying too much attention, etc... until benda sikit pun kucing jadi kecoh mencari tuan dan terlalu manja.

only 2 of them manage to be independent, the others, kalau duduk - mesti penuh kaki, mesti menyibuk duduk depan kita nak dekat dekat, mengalah kan orang bercinta.

that's some points on how to spoil your cat tongue.gif doh.gif sweat.gif shakehead.gif blink.gif

p/s average weight for female kitten age 4 months old is between 1.3kg - 1.8kg. while male kitten age 4 months old is between 1.6kg - 2.5kg. So your boy is in good weight thumbup.gif

p/s about the ambil darah waktu neuter, i'm not so sure. tak pernah buat, maybe you can ask advice from your friendly vet

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QUOTE(tplcaik @ Sep 6 2008, 08:40 AM)
LoL..The stray cat alr born her 1st baby last night when I reach home. Now she stay under the stair corner. Keep Miao..Miao..Miao...when we walk by. What she want?
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are u sure thats the only kitten born? did u check the kitten? did u check other place?

u might want to have a look why she meow meow, there's maybe something bugging her.
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QUOTE(HappyKat @ Sep 6 2008, 05:11 PM)
You are right El biggrin.gif  One thng at a time kesian ku punya Happy....anyway sjak semalam sampai pagi ini asyik tidur aje dia.
Morning also did not come up & wish me good morning....first time tak buat gitu...rupa nya ada fever sikit...tidur tidur whole day
tak nak makan atau minum..

But now, he's okay smile.gif  no more fever and is eating again... biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif tapi still not active yet. I think he's still lethargic. But better than
this morning when I look at him macam he's a different sebab tak bisa dia diam2 je...looking blankly at you not knowing why he's feeling like that blink.gif he has been sleeping all night & all day....only now he's look a little like himself..thank goodness


Added on September 6, 2008, 5:38 pm
Try cutting when they are asleep with less resistance.  I did that to Happy 3 days ago
and was quite easy actually, but mesti buat cepat sikit before there wake up
and start to play and cakar u biggrin.gif Memang he know what you were doing but coz
he is still sleepy he don't bother tongue.gif
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yea vaccine will make the kitten week for awhile. im pretty sure your vet did mention, if the kitten is getting bad and sick for 2-3 days bring back to the vet? a kitten who has bad body immune will normally collapse and died when vaccine hit them. they normally will get tired, sick, no appetite for 24 hours after the jab. then sure ok already.


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QUOTE(HappyKat @ Sep 6 2008, 05:50 PM)
Alamak! Habis macam mana lepas dah gugur ni? then prevention is better than cure ke. Gugur tu sbb gigi tak di jaga betul ke?
If that case, how often we need to check thier teeth so this problem won't happen. 

Adult can do implant, denture, crowning....kucing aiyo. so better jaga their teeth properly la


Added on September 6, 2008, 6:05 pm

Eh...memang sedap masa kita manja manja kat kucing...they feel good we also feel good.
come to think of it,,,when my son was little I also didn't manja him like that. Tapi, sebab
kucing kecik syoik je kita pamper dia tongue.gif

I told my son, its so nice to sayang kat kucing sebab they never answer you back
They are so appreciative of your love make you wanna to sayang more wub.gif
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Most adult senior cat will face this problem. there's not much can be done. just like human, kita gosok gigi hari hari, bila tua pun tetap akan longgar dan jatuh.

the only problem you want to make sure is the gum problem (gusi). Gum will always make the problem, its very easy to get diseases. You have to check the gum make sure it look fresh+pink. if u found blood, or darah beku around it, you must bring to vet.

even if you found extra teeth growing, u must cabut it. extra teeth will make the gum tissue feel uncomfortable. like human, extra teeth ni selalu tumbut kat lelangit, dan di luar gusi.

back to the "ketahanan gigi", that is the reason why you found cat food for senior cat. this biscuit/kibble is alil bit softer than adult cat food. senang untuk di kunyah. i think iams and science plan ada jual senior cat pun kibbles. not sure about royal canin.

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cat age 4 biasa nya tak ada problem gigi. like my case, my 4 years old, bang the floor and terkena gusi, and gigi tu abit patah and longgar. sebab tu doktor cabut terus, because kalau tak di cabut, ia akan jadi sakit dan gusi mudah kena infection. bila dah cabut it never grow back, because it is not a baby teeth. they still can eat though, they have like 29 other teeth. and trust me, cat teeth is very good to tear up anything smile.gif

unless.. again, if u have the gum problem, then they won't have stronger teeth. nak gigi pun susah, sbb gusi sakit.

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QUOTE(AbBy_C @ Sep 6 2008, 06:45 PM)
hi everyone,

my baby kitten super active balik after baik dari demam. nakal sangat kuat mencakar sampai berdarah lak tu. 2 hari lepas i potong kuku dia tapi kesian lak dah tak bole memanjat. sekarang nie dia tukar strategi lak suka mengigit.

he never want to duduk diam2.
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what to do eheheh thats why people always miss the kitten when theirs grow become cat.

they will become super active in kitten stage only. after 8 months above, they start to slow down, and become more slower. see how short that is? sure u going to miss that scene of biting, jumping, scratching, breaking eheheheh...

unless u have hyper active cat genetic lah, that will last forever eheheh
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 12:36 PM)
Hi all,

I'm a newbie here....last 3 days, I took my cat to vet...my cat got diarrhea...after took a medicine, the vet said, my cat must fasting for 1 day...so I tahan la dia makan...kesian..dia asyik tido n bila  bangun, just minum air saja...

The next day, I give him a food...he looks ok..but after a few hours..he got diarrhea again..

omg...I kasi dia puasa lagi beberapa jam...malam baru kasi makan...and dia ok..until the next saturday morning still ok...I balik keje malam tu pun ok...

but today...dia kene lagi...what should I do...I takde kat rumah...tak tau ape org kat rumah bagi dia makan...

I penatla tengok dia macam tu...kesian...
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You bagi makanan apa?

Is it the same food before visit vet, and after visit vet?

something going wrong with that food, i wonder what food that is?
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 02:00 PM)
dulu bagi friskies (kitten)...but after pegi jumpe vet...dia suggest royal canin...


Added on September 7, 2008, 2:01 pmso i dah bagi dia royal canin...dia makan ok...takde diarrhea lagi...tapi I tak tau org kat rumah bagi dia ape bila i takde..sebab masa balik keje semalam...I tengok dia makan nasi campur ikan..
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geesshhh u better pay more attention to the kitten diet...

first jangan kasi makanan lain selain royal canin... bila campur2 makanan, sebab tu perut dia tak tahan. since dia memang dah ada tanda2 diarrhea, and now u didnt jaga his/her diet, sbb tu jadi semakin terus.

second, dulu you bagi friskies, now RC.. sbb tu masih continue diarrhea. because u tukar makanan secara mengejut. you should have mix both friskies and RC, lepas tu slowly decrease the friskies. sampai lah 100% rc.

third, ada kucing memang akan tercirit berit bila makan RC kitten for the first time.

so what to do... avoid the rice+ikan, you can use boil chicken for this... ambik isi daging ayam, rebur separuh masak.. jangan masak sangat. lepas tu bagi kitten u makan, and sup ayam tadi bagi sebagai air minum dia. remember jangan letak apa apa perisa... buat ayam rebus kosong sahaja.

at the same time, keep continue bagi RC kitten food tu.

insyallah sup ayam + ayam rebus kosong tadi boleh bantu dia.

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 02:16 PM)
ok...I try it first...

tapi...yang i risau sangat bila i takde...diorang bagi makan benda lain..

sebab i keje 10 pg - 10 mlm...

kat ofis pun hati tak senang ingat dia kat rumah..

semenjak kena diarrhea ni...badan dia susut..

sedihla tengok dia..


Added on September 7, 2008, 2:26 pmby the way....mane u dapat petua ni?
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errkk advice people in your house not to feed anything else beside Royal Canin then..

petua from my vets and pure breed cattery friends. its work well with my kitten last time. dulu kitten i pun macam you. mula2 bagi proformance kitten dia ok. bila i change to Royal canin, tiba-tiba diarrhea tercirit. some more dia bulu panjang, habis bulu belakang dia sweat.gif hampir hari hari kena cuci area tu. penat juga. so then vet advice me to give ayam rebus 50%, then RC 50%... the next day terus ok.. and till now dia tak de problem makan RC lagi dah. kira nya RC dah sebati dengan perut dia.

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 02:57 PM)
but i still need to give the medicine rite?

later i upload his picture... dia nampak kurus..
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yeap, kalau vet ada bagi ubat syrup (antibiotik ka, vitamin ka, apa apa), mesti habis kan tau smile.gif jangan tak di bagi... especially antibiotik...
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 03:00 PM)
ni pic dia...elf...dia ni baka ape?
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Berapa umur dia ni? Nice color smile.gif

errkk baka apa? Dia ada sijil dari mana mana persatuan kucing malaysia atau antarabangsa? kalau tidak ada, so dia Domestic Long Hair kalau dia bulu panjang = baka campuran (campuran dari apa apa jenis kucing sekali pun), so tak boleh detect dia baka apa, melain kan dia ada sijil - sebab dalam sijil tu akan tulis jenis baka dan salasilah keluarga dia.

kalau bulu pendek atau kucing kampung = domestic short hair

p/s is that GULI dalam picture? mak ai minta2 lah di jauh kan benda tu. takut i tengok... harap2 dia tak telan benda tu.

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 03:13 PM)
umur dia...2 months...dia takde sijil..mak dia stray cat...i jumpe mak dia masa tgh pregnant...mengiau-ngiau tepi jalan ...lapar...I ambik mak dia bawak balik...

dia ade adik lagi seekor...betina...dia jantan..

kat rumah I ade 3 kucing dewasa...and 2 kittens..


Added on September 7, 2008, 3:21 pmu perasan ade guli kat belakang tu?  tongue.gif

that's why I cakap...i pegi keje hati tak senang...tak tau org kat rumah buat ape...
last week...lagi best...I balik keje...tgk dalam tray dia penuh dengan surat khabar...sampai 4-5 lapis...n surat khabar tu penuh dengan 'bahan buangan' dia...and dia duk dalam kandang tu..sedih i tengok dia cry.gif

kesian anak I...i takde kat rumah...harap orang jaga tak leh nak buat ape..

3 kucing i toilet train...kecuali this 2 kittens...guna litter box..

so mungkin diorang rasa susah nak kena buang najis dia..biarkan macam tu sampai I balik keje baru kemas..
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Tak kisah lah stray cat ke, kucing domestic long or short ke, yang penting, kucing you dalam picture to bakal jadi yang terhangat di pasaran. handsome seeyyy.... icon_rolleyes.gif time tak sihat pun dah nampak handsome, kalau sihat, mesti awek awek kat luar tu phewitt kat dia whistling.gif

yea i perasan guli tu, meremang tengok.. cos my friend cat pernah ter... eerrkk tak mo cakap lah, sedih lak ingat balik pasal tu.

oowww u tak biasa guna litter box, so that's mean you tak biasa ceduk najis lah ye... kena lah biasa2 kan ehehehe...
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 03:37 PM)
memang tak biasa guna litter box...taapi slalu gak kena cuci bahan buangan dia..

sebab mak dia slalu melepas atas kain..tak kira la kain ape..asal nampak kain...suka buang atas tu...termasukla atas cadar I...waaaaa...
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alamak.. sebab u tak training dorang guna pasir dan litter box. tu lah jadi gitu.

kalau guna toilet pun, if the door close, mau melepas tempat lain sebab tak tahan nak membuang eheheh
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QUOTE(spidergirl @ Sep 7 2008, 03:44 PM)
El, u live in Cyber ar or somewhere nearby SK? Just curious why u go to Baby Pets.
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No no.. i live dekat Bandar Tasik Selatan. its not that far to Taman Equine..

My cats vet is actually Segar Vet, which is near to my place. But neuter/spay i normally do it at Baby Pets - because i trust them smile.gif you know lah, things to do with surgery ni ehehehe.. im very concern about my cats, i rather pay high price as long as they get good service.

p/s again that is the best way to spoil your cat doh.gif
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 04:10 PM)
el..I tak tau sangat pasal kucing..

untuk kitten ni...ape yang I patut buat?

2 minggu lagi my vet suruh bawak gi deworm...ade ape2 vaccine nak kena bagi ke?
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if your cat is 2 months and above, sepatut nya dah di vaccine. but since he is not in good condition - vaccine tak akan di bagi. unless dia 100% sihat.

if u already vaccine him, then there's should be problem anymore. next 2 weeks tu just bawa pergi deworm.

hopefully dalam masa 2 minggu ni, najis dah ok (berketul).. if tak ok juga after u follow my resepi tadi (remember don't let your kitten tukar2 makanan, just stick to RC and ayam rebus + sup ayam rebus kosong), i think u need to deworm.. tak perlu tunggu sampai 2 minggu.

remember juga, not to bath your cat now... biar diarrhea habis dulu, and dia nampak ok baru bath.
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 04:40 PM)
dia belum gi vaccine lagi...

tak leh mandi?...tapi nampak kotor je...especially kat kaki belakang dia..

bau masam la..  tongue.gif
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u just cuci bahagian kotor tu saja. kalau satu badan, sebab tu dia tak henti henti demam. sebab kucing memang bukan haiwan yang mandi air pun.

kurang kan mandi dulu. kalau you keep on mandi kan dia, lambat nak baik dari demam. nanti end up with flu pulak.

even lepas vaccine pun u tak boleh mandi kan kucing. sebab, bila kucing di vaccine dia akan demam sekejap 1-2 days. sistem badan akan lemah. kalau u mandi kan juga, temperature badan akan naik tinggi buat kucing terus.... errkk tak mo sebut lah ehehehe

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QUOTE(spidergirl @ Sep 7 2008, 05:05 PM)
Yeah, I like the doc too, quite generous. He gave me extra med when he finds out I sent a stray cat (Oren) for a treatment.

On a contrary, my bf dun really trust the doc that much. Probably cos he's a young doc. My bf took his FIP diagnosed cat (Raja) last year to there to take off fluid from his body. The doc had a bit of difficulty on that. Not to blame the doc since the cat's very ill anyway, but since the fluid has not successfully drained off, Raja died the next day.

I suggest if you guys have a very ill cat and needs proper surgery,  pls make time to go to UPM vet hospital. Thats where all Msian vets are from anyway.
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Yeap i always get free deworming pills eheheheh

Even the Segar Vets ramai young doctor. Which i don't have problem with them. Why I like Baby Pets and Segar Vets because,

-they will asked alot of questions before they do anything to my cats.
-they will make sure let their boss or other senior doctor know what steps they going to do.
-they are nice to my cats, so my cats tak freak out bila di urus
-they call me after visited them to ensure my cats are ok
-they drop me a postcard on the next treatment
-they also sometimes call to remember me my next appointment
-although they are busy, with so many patient, they still have time to entertain you, talk about your pets
-the best part, Segar Vet doctor remember which and which is my cats, when i visited them with other cat, the doctor will ask about the cat that i brought few months ago. didnt that sound nice? thumbup.gif
-they listed the price budget before starting doing treatment

i will stop visiting a vet if:
-they don't speak tongue.gif
-they do something without asking what happen (some vet show off that they are so good, and do thing without asking the cat condition at home. hello! im the owner you should ask me more details, like as if they sleep with my cats at home, pandai-pandai je kasi macam macam ubat)
-they don't even know how to handle a cat
-they speak one or two words when i ask question
-simply do anything they want, and walla the bill is like WHAT! shocking.gif

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Sep 7 2008, 05:23 PM)
el...u ade berape ekor kucing?


Added on September 7, 2008, 5:25 pm

Segar Vets kat mane? nak gi jugakla.. biggrin.gif
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Ada 8 ekor anak anak.... tapi i duda.. ahahah bini dah tak ada. cry.gif Ayah tunggal lah kata kan eheheheh.

Segar Vets kat Taman Segar Cheras, landmark - leisure mall.

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