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hazzy
post Jun 20 2008, 04:56 PM

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Congrats hun! for the Sugar Gliders V7. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 06:43 PM

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2 more question from this humble newbie to hun notworthy.gif

Be sure to always gut load your meal worms or crickets first before feeding your sugar glider.
What does gut load really means?

Sorry for the stupid questions, tapi u told me to ask if tak faham smile.gif

and 1 more question, which yogurt that suit the best for gliders? what i mean is, which brand?

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post Jun 20 2008, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Jun 20 2008, 07:00 PM)
@hazzy : GUT LOAD means the time u first get ur mealworms [for SGs, Gerbils, Hedgehogs or whatsoever that eat mealies], u cannot feed them straight away to ur pet(s), but u have to FEED them nutritious food for AT LEAST 2 DAYS before feeding to ur pets.

U have to gut load them for at least 2 days. GUT LOAD is feeding the mealworms to make them more full of nutrients and avoiding feeding contaminated mealies to ur pet(s). Coz the mealies bought straight from shops are not all 100% healthy..

By Gut Loading them, u can see after the 2 days period, some will turn black = die. Some will turn to white = grow bigger. So only after this period, u can savely feed mealies to ur SG.

What to Gut Load?
(1)Bread
(2)Rolled Oats
(3)Kitten Kibbles
(4)Veges
(5)Fruits
(6)Hardboiled Egg white
(7)Organic Vegetarian Supplement

P/S : Food that is too big or hard, i always smashed into smaller pieces.. Hehe using hammer.. hehe

wub.gif Me been here since V5.. Wanna get a SG too but I can wait. Not on IMPULSE.. Wanna be 100% ready and 100% commitment to them!!

SIFUs, if got any comments on the above opinions, please advise ya..

Brainstroming again.

Cheers
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anyway, after gut loading the meal worms, kite asing2 kan yg dah mati la?
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post Jun 20 2008, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(sharil_routh @ Jun 20 2008, 08:08 PM)
Clever Boy.... rclxms.gif
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Woah shakehead.gif thats gonna be alot of works to do.
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its ok, as long sugar glider punyer pasal. tarak hal punyer.
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post Jun 20 2008, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(sharil_routh @ Jun 20 2008, 08:31 PM)
Not a lot of work la.
As long u hav passion, patient, commited...everything will be fine.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 21 2008, 01:09 PM

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guys guys! finally i got my joey! biggrin.gif rclxms.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

but theres one thing, she only eats yogurt, i gave her buah Lai, she didnt eat it, but she only lick it, and i gave her meal worms she wont eat it too.
why didnt she eat all that but only yogurt?
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post Jun 21 2008, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(mamata @ Jun 21 2008, 01:59 PM)
same as xena
she wont touch the food unless i handfeed her
.About mealworm and slurp ,she eat more mealworm and less slurp than before
wonder why
congratz hazzy
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thank you mamata smile.gif
anyway, did my joey lose her appetite?
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post Jun 21 2008, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(emino @ Jun 21 2008, 03:14 PM)
Can you show us the picture of the joey? So that we can help you setermine whether its underage or not...
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She wont eat her meal worm and buah Lai that i gave her,only the yogurt.
and sometimes she's shacking, and if i put her on my shoulder, she will hide inside my hair, because my hair are long.
Is this normal to joey that are just bought?
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post Jun 21 2008, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(bonai @ Jun 21 2008, 05:10 PM)
i see there's an ash tray in the picture..
please do not smoke in the same room where you keep your glider or any other pet..
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i took the picture in my office, but i put my joey in the other rooms, smile.gif
so my joey are not too underage?
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post Jun 21 2008, 05:32 PM

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ok thank you guys, i'll wait for them to advise me
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post Jun 21 2008, 06:24 PM

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ok thank you bonai, sorry for the stupidity, i didnt buy the slurp, but im going to buy it after this, since im working and i bought the joey at 2 am last night from wayne (LYN nick : -Nos-)
firstly i saw the joey i dont really want to buy it, but i pity them since that wayne didnt give them much attention and abit wild plus the joeys are sleeping in a really small cage.

i really only want to see the joeys only, since my gf told me that "kesian gile tgk diorang(the two joeys) diabaikan"
so i bought 1 of them, im thinking about buying both of them, tapi tak cukup cash la.
i tak buat much preparation, but at least, at my house i got a larger cage.

thats the reason why im not well prepared and i know the joeys seem to be underage.
its better me who taking care of her than that guy kan.


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post Jun 21 2008, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jun 21 2008, 08:25 PM)
OMG.... you bought from that guy? Why never check with us? That joey is not 2 months old.... how old? Well, that is actually a 3 to 4 week old joey. The size, fur, tail..... sigh..... Did not we said before to never buy underage joeys? My blog already got article that we should not support such sellers. To you is maybe rescue lah from that guy but it's all wrong and unethical for the seller to sell the joey that young.

You know why she can't take mealworm yet? Coz she is not fully weaned. Even baby Bubba is now 33 days and he has not touched solid food yet.

Shaking is a sign that she is scared. Hiding in your hair is a sign that she wants security.... all these are sign of underage joey.....
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Added on June 21, 2008, 8:31 pmor should i burn down that guys house?
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post Jun 21 2008, 09:08 PM

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ok then
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post Jun 21 2008, 09:45 PM

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sorry for spamming. no, im not mad. dont worry. im worry about my joey more than anything.
do u guys know how can i get Wombaroo Milk at malaysia?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jun 21 2008, 10:09 PM)
Very true. Imagine what the guy would do with the RM250 he just got.
I got no more for sale anymore. Your joey won't grow very well due to being such a young thing with no nutrition from mother's milk. Wombaroo milk is not sold and you can't import just like that. All you can use now is Pets Own, but then it has very low protein and fat, so any joey on Pets Own won't grow as big than those on Wombaroo milk.

See.... now is more trouble for you, more worrying for you and more work for you. This is why we always always say DON'T GET UNDERAGE JOEYS.

Sorry but I am just mad.... mad at the fact that most of us have already advice you not to buy on impulse but you still go and get an underage joey even after reading this thread. It's disappointing and frustrating for those who advice. I'm sure KP will say something later.

If I were you, I would return the joey coz I would never want to support such a seller of underage joeys.
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yes yes i understand. kalau nak pulang balik confirm dia mati jugak since dia tak jaga betul2. but then save la my money, tapi... tapi takpe la, i try my best to that joey an opportunity to live. tapi kalau dia mati jugak, at least i try my best kan.
sorry again for my stupidity, i jaga dia se elok yg mungkin. promise nod.gif
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 22 2008, 12:12 AM)
WHY?

BECAUSE THE JOEY IS APPX. 3-4 WEEKS OUT OF POUCH ONLY!

JOEYS WILL START TO EXPERIMENT/EAT SOLID FOOD ONLY AFTER 6-7 WEEKS OUT OF POUCH.
LOOK AT BONAI'S 5 WEEKS OLD JOEY AND COMPARE TO YOURS. DOES YOURS LOOK OLDER AS CLAIMED BY THE SELLER?

CLEARLY YOUR JOEY IS YOUNGER THAN 5 WEEKS OLD AND TO MY CALCULATION ACCORDING TO THE DATED PHOTOS BY THE SELLER HIMSELF, YOUR JOEY IS APPX. 3-4 WEEKS OUT OF POUCH ONLY.
I UNDERSTAND FEELING "KESIAN", I HAVE EXPERIENCE IT HUNDREDS AND MILLIONS OF TIMES, BUT DID YOU STOP AND THINK THAT IF YOU GET THE JOEY, YOU WILL ONLY BE SUPPORTING THESE UNETHICAL SELLERS/BREEDERS AND CAUSE MORE AND MORE UNDER AGED JOEYS TO BE SOLD LATER ON?

WHO IS GOING TO SAVE THE LATTER? YOU AGAIN?

YOU TOLD US THAT YOU WANTED A GLIDER THAT WILL LIVE ON YOU NO LESSER THAN 15 YEARS RIGHT?

WELL, WITHOUT GETTING THE MOTHER'S MILK, NUTRITION AND NECESSARY ANTIBODY RIGHT NOW, DON'T BE SURPRISED OR COMPLAIN IF YOUR GLIDER DIES ON YOU IN JUST 5 YEARS OR EVEN LESS THAN THAT.

YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD, YET YOU GO STRAIGHT UP AND BUY IT.

I FELT SO WASTED AND ALMOST CRIED WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT YOU WENT ON AND BOUGHT AND UNDER AGED JOEY... IN EFFORTS TO EDUCATE AND MAKE AWARENESS, WE STILL GET THESE KIND OF PEOPLE... "MASUK TELINGA KANAN, KELUAR TELINGA KIRI"...
REFER TO MY ANSWER ABOVE IN BOLD... YOU SAVE ONE, MORE AND MORE UNDER AGED JOEYS WILL BE SOLD.

YES, YOU MAY BURN THE GUYS HOUSE DOWN ONCE YOU'VE RESCUED ALL THE GLIDERS IN HIS HOUSE SAFELY.
YES, NESHIE, WE HAVE BEEN TELLING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN... AND WHAT DO WE GET?

FAMILIAR WITH THIS LINE?

"WHEN THE BUYING STOPS, THE KILLING CAN TOO"

IT'S ALL OVER THE WORLD, BUT PEOPLE STILL DON'T SEE IT... sad.gif
WE HAVE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT UNDER AGED JOEYS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

WOMBAROO IS NOT AVAILABLE IN MALAYSIA. YOU WILL HAVE TO SETTLE WITH PETS OWN MILK NOW.
IF THE JOEY DIES IN YOUR HAND, YOU LOST YOUR MONEY FOR NOTHING BUT YOUR OWN STUPIDITY, BUT IF IT DIES IN THE SELLERS HAND, HE LOST HIS DAMN PROFIT AND CREDIBILITY AS A SELLER.

THINK ABOUT IT.

IF YOU ARE STILL KEEN ON KEEPING THE JOEY, HERE'S A FEW THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:

1) START FEEDING PETS OWN MILK, SLURP AND SOFT FRUITS. DON'T GIVE TOO MUCH YOGURT, IT WILL ONLY CAUSE DIARRHEA. THE JOEY CAN ONLY LEARN TO EAT MORE SOLID FOOD IN 3-4 WEEKS TIME.

2) OTHER THAN GLIDERS OWN MILK, OTHER MILK TYPE WILL NOT ENSURE SUFFICIENT NUTRITION AND NECESSARY ANTIBODY, THUS DON'T EXPECT IT TO GROW AS BIG AS OTHERS VERY FAST OR FOR IT TO LIVE AS LONG AS OTHERS...

3) KEEP THE JOEY WARM AND COMFY AT ALL TIME.

4) KEEP THE JOEY COMPANY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

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DESPITE MENTIONING ABOUT PRE-CAUTION SO THAT "NASI TAK MENJADI BUBUR" IT DID BECOME "BUBUR" AFTER ALL...

THANK YOU HUN, BONAI AND THOSE FOR SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS MATTER, I HAVE SHARED MINE AS WELL.

MOD, SORRY FOR ALL THE CAPS, I HOPE I'D BE HEARD BETTER WITH IT. IF IT'S OFFENSIVE, YOU MAY HAVE IT REMOVED OR DE-CAPPED(if there is such thing... tongue.gif)

Yours sadfully,
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thank you KP, im really sorry for what ive done, i bought Pet Owns milk and bigger cage at pet shack yesterday, looking for GliderSlurp too but its not in stock yet, do u think its possible, for me to give my joey to u for babysit my joey?


QUOTE(imbiroy @ Jun 22 2008, 12:37 AM)
salute bonai and kp...ur rite!

hazzy if i were you, i would try ask who ever bonai,kp or hun to help u jaga the underage progress, better then u know nuts about it...sometime's cheap thing does not comes in good condition, i rather kena flame and see whether they can help me jaga, then i pay back the babysitting fee for them (sorry if my words offence bonai,kp or hun)

this is wat really call SAVING THEM, not just but them back. since u bought already no choice loo.. wat to do is to give them the best, even thou that you cannot be with them for a period of time..

(thanks bonai get back to me as soon as u got the answer ok? regarding on that straight tail moving up adn down)

by the way, any one know is there any book's regarding on sugar glider language? cause i saw book regarding on cat and dog language, if there is please let me know where could i buy it. i would like to understand my ah bi language more...

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ok thank you for ur information KP
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QUOTE(ikeyz @ Jun 23 2008, 03:50 PM)
sukie yg chumel
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fluffy fluffy! smile.gif
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post Jun 24 2008, 04:41 AM

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to kp,hun,reanne,bonai.
i had my lesson notworthy.gif
and sorry for my unethical behaviour, thought bout saving 1, but sigh blush.gif wasting my money, and it might getting worst. like u guys said, how bout the other underage joeys?
so thank you guys for the advice. walaupun korang kene gak ulang2 gak dekat aku an.
sorry and thanks alot notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 24 2008, 09:46 AM)

Do update us on how your joey is doing.

KP
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Zoey is doing fine, tapi still not eating solid foods, only Pets Own milk, milk milk. smile.gif i tried introduce to her mealworms, she tried to eat it, but she cant grab the mealworm, because went i hold it for her, the mealworms keep on spinning and the zoey dah malas nak makan. so dia minum susu and tido minum susu and tido.
1 more thing, zoey suke gigit cage. is this normal?

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