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Vanquish
post Jun 18 2008, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(riazorblues @ Jun 18 2008, 03:28 PM)
WTH is vvl?? sr16ve and sr20ve? what is that?? need to explain..somebody..
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SR16VE and SR20VE are engines that belongs to the Nissan SR family of engines...

The "VE" signifies the engine has variable valve timing system... Nissan's variable valve timing system is called NEO VVL (Nissan Ecology Oriented Variable Valve Lift and Timing)...

Here's more info from Wikipedia:

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VVL varies the timing, duration, and lift of valves by using hydraulic pressure switch between two different sets of camshaft lobes. It functions similarly to Honda's VTEC system.

The SR20VE is the most common engine with NEO VVL. There have been two main versions of this engine. The first version made 187hp and 145lb/ft torque. This engine was used by Nissan from 1997 to 2001. It is found in the Nissan Primera, Nissan Bluebird, and the Nissan Wingroad.

The second variant of the SR20VE is found only in the 2001 and up, P12 Nissan Primera. This version of the SR20VE makes 204hp, and 152lb/ft torque. This engine is commonly known as the SR20VE '20V'. Although, in automotive terms, '20V' would normally be interpreted as having twenty valves, this is incorrect. The name '20V' is the name of the trim level of the Nissan Primera that it is found in. It is also a shortened version of the name SR20VE. This engine has 16 valves like the rest of the SR20 engines. This newer '20V' engine, is the only SR20 engine to get a restyled valve cover. It also has an upgraded intake manifold, which has longer runners and a larger 70mm throttle body (earlier SR20VE has 60mm).

Another version of the VVL SR engines, is the 1.6L SR16VE. The engine block for the SR16VE is the same as the SR20VE, it also has the same cylinder bore. The crankshaft has a shorter stroke, which lowers the displacement, but allows the engine to safely rev to higher RPM. Although this engine has 1.6L of displacement, it has more aggressive camshaft specifications. It manages to make 173hp. The camshafts from this engine are considered to be an upgrade for SR20VE owners.

From 1997 to 1998, Nissan produced 500 limited edition SR16VE N1 engines. These engines made 197hp. They had further upgraded camshafts, upgraded intake manifold untilising 8 injectors and a larger 70mm throttle body. These engines were found in the limited edition Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1. They only sold in Japan.

The most powerful VVL engine so far, is the SR20VET. The SR20VET is a turbocharged '20V' SR20VE. It uses a Garrett GT2560R turbo charger, and makes 280ps (276hp). Nissan's technical information about this engine states that it is 9:1 compression ratio, but it really adds up to 8.8:1. Compaired to the SR20DET (used in the Nissan Silvia, and Bluebird), the SR20VET (aside from having VVL technology) has improved airflow in the cylinder head, higher compression, and also improved coolant passages.

One difference from Honda's VTEC system, is that NEO VVL engages the change of intake and exhaust cams independently. On the SR20VE the intake camshaft is switched at 5000rpm, and the exhaust at 6500rpm. However this trait was not included on the newer '20v' version, as both camshafts engage at the same RPM.

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post Jun 19 2008, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(n_chun21 @ Jun 18 2008, 07:30 PM)
my engine also got 2 kick in when i saw tat nissan forum!! my version is 1999 sr20vvl if after the 2001 is sr20ve (204hp). my only 190hp only..

i saw so many video they kick in also 1 only.. like when the sound is change only 1 times!! my foreman said is just on tat time air come in so fast then the vvl open many people think is 2 times.. the real 1 is the sound change like vtec is a real vvl active...

my car this week will go to drop in the engine so need 2 week so now research some info when test car got problem can ask him repair...

dont know he lie me or not....
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I am using a SR16VE in my B14 Sentra now... The VVL only kicks in ONCE at about 5,600RPM... The SR20VE shares the same engine block with the SR16VE except for it's different bore & stroke and cams... I dun think the VVL on the SR20VE kicks in twice...
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post Jun 20 2008, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(n_chun21 @ Jun 19 2008, 07:23 PM)
yup!! but in nismoclub all the people said kick in 2 times if 1 times mean ur wyring got problem... my foreman still not help me install la.. he delay me until monday bzos there so many car let him do n he just 1 person work.... 

vanquish u see ur information u post in this website
On the SR20VE the intake camshaft is switched at 5000rpm, and the exhaust at 6500rpm

so tat mean is 2 times u can hear 2 times sound kick in im right... bzos many people said can feel 2 times.. dont know is real or not real..

vanquish u driving sr16vvl u can feel 1 times? at 5600rpm u try go until 7200rpm u can hear 2nd time if i not wrong bzos tat 2nd times need high rev.. or u already using emanage to set the vvl active in 1 times with the intake camsalf with exhaust!!!
sr20vet got people install liau at nismoclub.. with sr20vet 280hp kick in 2 times... intake camsalf + exhasut + turbo...
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NEO VVL activates the intake and exhaust cams independently... But so far I haven't heard a 2nd kick in even when I rev my SR16VE up to its max 7,800rpm... Maybe the VVL sound is so loud that I couldn't hear it...

This post has been edited by Vanquish: Jun 20 2008, 12:00 PM
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post Jun 24 2008, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(northiswara @ Jun 20 2008, 02:43 PM)
cozs ur 2nd VVL kick in at 8,000rpm marr. and u only rev til 7800rpm niah.
how to feel it lerr??
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SR16VE cannot rev until 8,000rpm la... The max is 7,800rpm...

QUOTE(n_chun21 @ Jun 20 2008, 05:20 PM)
but normal sr16vvl is 2times woh.. is it ur wyring got problem... no need until 8000rpm also feel the 2nd kick in liau if u using sr16vvl
1st in 5500rpm 2nd is about 7500rpm..
if i not wrong la...

so now i scare i also same like u 1 kick in only...
if got problem must go to shah alam find the KSR workshop specialist in Nissan modification
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Dun think wiring got problem... If you say that 2nd kick in is at about 7,500rpm, then maybe it did kick in, I just didn't notice, becoz I am damn worried that I will snap my cams if I accidentally go beyond 7,800rpm, my worries kept me looking at the RPM meter instead of searching to hear the 2nd kick in... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 25 2008, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(M1 SpeedBoy @ Jun 24 2008, 11:14 PM)
siap long time edy loh ^^

i dunno how to explan ohh .... ehhh......just powerful loh... & no speed cut ^^

i think high way full tank can get  500KM ^^
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full tank get 500km? I dun think so la, u'll be very lucky if u can get 450km... smile.gif
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post Jun 25 2008, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(lot101 @ Jun 25 2008, 11:41 AM)
Vanquish.....rev your engine to 9k rpm..........when you hit 8k let me know.......Ah Leong and me will wait with a tow truck for you  thumbup.gif
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If I have more than 100 pairs of spare SR16VE cams, I'll probably do what U said... Otherwise, no frakking way! biggrin.gif

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post Jun 25 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jun 25 2008, 01:02 PM)
wat nissan model are u ppl driving?
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For me, I drive a B14 Sentra...

QUOTE(northiswara @ Jun 25 2008, 02:43 PM)
camshaft? better ask for spare fuel and GB. if hit 9k rpm then collect rm500 from him. haha
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