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SUSathlonxp
post Sep 29 2008, 03:34 AM

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so VSL = a/d/s = same sound = 100% same?
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post Sep 29 2008, 10:31 AM

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So, it's time to make an arrangement with the VSL ppl to do a sound-check in relation to the so call ori a/d/s, it will be worth the $$ costing about one-third the price for a 'same' technical product. Have listened to a set of a/d/s component before & it's is one of those highly re-commended SQ smooth/clean sounding products.
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post Sep 30 2008, 02:01 AM

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I've a set of a/d/s/ is my office. Feel free to bring a VSL over for comparison. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:12 PM

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i installed VSL amp like kennysia. boleh tahan i must say. 2 Double Coil no problem.
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post Nov 24 2008, 02:37 PM

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Amp's capablity is not really measured by how many SW it can powers. There are many variables for consideration such as S/N ratio, damping factor, THD etc. However, those variables are only indications. Looking at whether the amp can produce clean signal at higher wattage without distortion is much more meaningful.
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post Jun 8 2009, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(notorius @ Nov 24 2008, 12:12 PM)
i installed VSL amp like kennysia. boleh tahan i must say. 2 Double Coil no problem.
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which model of amp u bought? i bought the p660.2 to power my 10" chapalang subwoofer..not bad lo
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post Oct 26 2009, 09:02 PM

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i am using this component SF6 and it sounds good in terms of SQ..
howiechoo
post Oct 26 2009, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(kk_ong @ Sep 28 2008, 03:22 AM)
I met this VSL dealer from KL few days ago, this is what he told me about the history of VSL and a/d/s/ history.

a/d/s/ was previously made by its factory in China which also called ADS china, partnership with the chinese and Directed Electronics USA.

Then few years ago the american withdraw from this ADS China factory and gave up on the brand a/d/s/ due to the poor sales of this brand.

but, the brand a/d/s is registered in several countries under this ADS China, only that Malaysia, Singapore and Hongkong is registered under Directed Electronics USA.

UNIK S/B is the authorized dealer from ADS China, whereas PRO-ICE S/B is the authorized dealer from ADS USA (Directed Electronics)

so this UNIK sell this a/d/s/ China produts in Malaysia which offended the copy right Directed Electronics USA, and UNIK eventually get sued in the end BUT Directed Electronics USA DID NOT win the case because they couldn't prove the diffenrences between the produts of a/d/s/ china and a/d/s/ USA. Why they sue UNIK? is because thier dealer in Malaysia, Pro-ice carry alot of thier stock during that time and UNIK is selling alot cheaper!

Which mean both of the a/d/s/ is made in the same FACTORY!

During that period the same a/d/s/ speaker which sold by UNIK cost RM650, PRO-ICE cost RM1888.00!!!

VSL is what they use to replace the brand of a/d/s/ in the country like Malaysia, Singapore and HongKong after all, because Directed Electrnics hold the trademark registration of a/d/s/ until year 2011.

as Thaland, Indonasia, and the rest of the countries in Europe are all selling the a/d/s/ brand from CHINA ADS!

and this VSL dealer from KL who told me the above story is previously selling the "so called" original a/d/s/ from PRO-ICE SDN. BHD. too, he said that the speaker products of the USA a/d/s/ and CHINA a/d/s is 100% the same and even the sound quality is 200% the same.

so i guess this VSL brand is basicly a american technology product but made in china.

hopefully all above story is true, i mean who copy who? i really don know. a/d/s/ from USA is no longer selling it in the rest of the world because of the pricing, now this a/d/s/ china make it cheaper which allow people like us could enjoy its benefit n quality.

i mean y not give it a try? branded from usa doesnt mean is the best right?

just my super 2 cents.  wink.gif
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i think he just BS u....my source doesn't like this

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post Oct 26 2009, 09:31 PM

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it is kinda saying that Adams Digital ? is also Focal? hahaha *pengsan*

check out the denmark flag man on the main page man! these guys are seriously confused!

http://adamsdigital.com/comp.html
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(mnkh27 @ Oct 26 2009, 09:31 PM)
it is kinda saying that Adams Digital ? is also Focal?  hahaha *pengsan*

check out the denmark flag man on the main page man! these guys are seriously confused!

http://adamsdigital.com/comp.html
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no la... adam's digital takes OEM driver from focal and DLS ultimate... just rebadge... hahaha....

anyway... there is a lot of chap ayam brand that is trying to make it into the scene by saying that they are the same factory with who or use the same technology...

in actual fact... they are not... if they are that good then i think it will have a very good review in the net about them...

cheers...
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:47 AM

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no matter how many times we tell them, they just keep thinking dat wat they heard is true, cos ppl on the internet might bs them. haha... biggrin.gif pop into the forum and ask abt a china brand, everyone said it's no gud, but another noob pop in and say it's gud, that fella will ask 'oh, really ah?' and the next morning will go buy it and ignoring wat the rest said...
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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Oct 26 2009, 09:12 PM)
i think he just BS u....my source doesn't like this
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mind sharing wats yor version???
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post Mar 21 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(highway04 @ Mar 18 2010, 05:46 PM)
mind sharing wats yor version???
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I'm waiting for it aswell.
Who cares if it's chap ayam or itik?the important thing is the clarity and whether it's reliable a.k.a tahan lama.atleast for me.
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post Mar 23 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Conroe @ Mar 21 2010, 04:37 PM)
I'm waiting for it aswell.
Who cares if it's chap ayam or itik?the important thing is the clarity and whether it's reliable a.k.a tahan lama.atleast for me.
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That is why listening preferences is diff from one to other, so subjective. You listen to it after installation, if it pass ur ears then ok la (how many will complain further after everything has been installed and waited for few hours?).

But I truly 100% support this "good stuff doesn't come cheap" laugh.gif .
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post Mar 24 2010, 02:03 PM

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why my version is so important? i never know what i say will have effect to others so much...lolz

as you guys said, listen to it, if it pass, then pass. But remember dun compare with others.....a lot here install ice just for "orang ade, i ade" kind of attitude. Then going to compare theirs with more expensive system which trying to shame themself...

This post has been edited by howiechoo: Mar 24 2010, 02:03 PM
Kar Leong
post Mar 25 2010, 07:27 AM

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Sorry a bit off topic, but would like ask VSL thing too. smile.gif

I'm newbie here, yesterdat i just join this forum and i would like to ask any idea any suggestion better for my current set ICS setup? Isn't any VSL component set 6.5" for my front speaker comp set.
I been survey many component set for my front speaker and amplifier 2 channel or 4 channel, still dileema what to choose, ops really blur

Today i spend on boston speaker rm710 1set 6.5" comp set, rm435 6x9 3way boston 1set, debrez monoblock 2 channel rm910 and many other cable RCA, power cable etc waaaaa expensive, i want more budget lolz.
Now looking for 4 channel amplifier, and 1 comp set front speaker, and plan to change the sub 10" x 1 pair or 12" 1 pair, any suggestion?
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post Mar 25 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kar Leong @ Mar 25 2010, 07:27 AM)
Sorry a bit off topic, but would like ask VSL thing too.  smile.gif

I'm newbie here, yesterdat i just join this forum and i would like to ask any idea any suggestion better for my current set ICS setup? Isn't any VSL component set 6.5" for my front speaker comp set.
I been survey many component set for my front speaker and amplifier 2 channel or 4 channel, still dileema what to choose, ops really blur

Today i spend on boston speaker rm710 1set 6.5" comp set, rm435 6x9 3way boston 1set, debrez monoblock 2 channel rm910 and many other cable RCA, power cable etc waaaaa expensive, i want more budget lolz.
Now looking for 4 channel amplifier, and 1 comp set front speaker, and plan to change the sub 10" x 1 pair or 12" 1 pair, any suggestion?
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Bro, how many rear speakers do you have?
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post Mar 25 2010, 05:39 PM

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I'm driving toyota seg 87 one, very old one !! the rear speaker got 4 hole [1 pair 6 1/2" and 1 pair 6"x9" de] why ?
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post Mar 25 2010, 08:57 PM

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sorry to say but the way u setup ur system sounds like SPL more than SQ. seems like the whole staging is at the back. normally for SQ setup, it's onli front + sub. and oso 6x9 + sub at the back will cancel off each other's bass frequencies.
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post Mar 26 2010, 05:34 AM

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QUOTE(ckmoy007 @ Mar 25 2010, 08:57 PM)
sorry to say but the way u setup ur system sounds like SPL more than SQ. seems like the whole staging is at the back. normally for SQ setup, it's onli front + sub. and oso 6x9 + sub at the back will cancel off each other's bass frequencies.
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Yeah i know 6x9 + sub will cancel off each other bass frequencies but i have pre-amp which can control / tune sound at rear n front speaker. Currently i i have 3 amplfier [which soon going to change / add 1 more amplier 4 channel]

I will try this setup in few more week; any sifue gv me any suggestion

4 channel alpine 320w - boston acoustic sx60 front speaker 6.5" comp set / boston acoustic s60 rear speaker 6.5" comp set ( which one set better at rear ? )
2 channel 270w - boston acoustic S953 S-Series 6x9"
2 channel 500w - maybe add 1 more sub at rear ? [12" subwoofer?]
2 channel Debrez Monoblock - mainly for subwoofer (planning to change Boston acoustic G5 12)

If the frequencies 6x9 still causing problem perhap i should put in front?



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