Contact the Qualifying Board for a definite and updated answer.

Record your practice performance and review it before the actual competition.

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Added on August 10, 2009, 9:28 amVideo performance I mean.

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Aug 10 2009, 09:28 AM

There should be examination fees
You will only incur tuition fees should you enrol in any private college.

I may be wrong because the last time that I checked the LL.M section was at least a year ago.

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Added on August 11, 2009, 10:48 pmNo she may not. It does not apply retrospectively. You must use your result to enter LL.B and that result must have 2 principals in one sitting.

The Qualifying Board will look at her A levels result when she tries to register for CLP.

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Aug 11 2009, 10:48 PM

All three terms are adopted.

The same applies elsewhere.

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Added on August 27, 2009, 11:48 amI reserve my comment on the CLP issue but do find out on other variables that materially contributed to the passing rate.

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Added on August 27, 2009, 11:52 amLook at Part II, paragraph 16 of the New Guidelines on Qualifications and requirements to qualify to sit for the Malaysian Certifiate in Legal Practice (CLP) Examination (For Law degrees from the United Kingdom).

Durham's Law degree is recognised for purposes of sitting for the CLP. However, as a matter of prudence, make sure that you refer to the Qualifying Board and not put any reliance on the guidelines alone.

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Aug 27 2009, 11:52 AM

Not any. There are a number of universities recognised under part II of that regulation.

Refer to:
Notification Under Section 3 - P.U.(B) 119/2009
Act 166 - Legal Profession Act 1976

You'll find that to be a lot more reliable than a statement issued by MMU, Bar Council, etc combined.

I think that the answer is hidden within your own statement.

:-)

You may want to consider a part-time programme if you are going for London External's LL.B

Scheme A would take you 3 years. Alternatively, Scheme B would take you 4 years

Scheme A = 4 subjects a year
Scheme B = 3 subjects a year


:-)

I'm sure that you'll find plenty of encouragement in this thread from fellow UL students.

NOTIFICATION UNDER SECTION 3
PU(B) 119/2009
IN exercise of the powers conferred by paragraph © of the definition of "qualified person" in section 3 of the Legal Profession Act 1976[Act 166], the Qualifying Board declares that any person who has passed the final examination conducted by the institutions specified in column (1) of the Schedule leading to the qualification specified in column (2) is a qualified person for the purposes of the Act with effect from the date specified in column (3).


NOTIFICATION UNDER SECTION 3
PU(B) 119/2009
SCHEDULE

(1)

Institution
(2)

Qualification
(3)

Date

Universiti Utara Malaysia
Degree of Bachelor of Laws (Honours)
16 March 2008

Multimedia University
Degree of Bachelor of Laws (Honours)
10 August 2008

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Sep 3 2009, 03:32 PM

Just to let you know, they are technically not an alumni. It is a term that I respectfully submit was adopted by mistake.

They are all lifelong members of their respective inn. They are no longer part of the inn once they are disbarred and their names removed from the register/roll of barristers.

:-)

Yes you can join one of them. But if you do not complete your BVC and the required Qualifying Sessions, you'll always be a student member of the Inn.

Also, check their requirements. You will have to show them evidence that you've completed a degree in law or pursuing one now.

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Added on September 16, 2009, 4:22 pmLincoln's inn is the largest.
A lot of Asians.

There isn't any inn that is better than the other. They are all the same. Different people join different inns for different reasons.

It doesn't matter which programme are you doing because when you're there, you're just a student member, unless you've been called to the bar.

If you're afraid of being discriminated then you should be afraid of those 1st class from oxbridge. Then again, within the Inn itself, chances are that you won't feel any discrimination.

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Added on September 16, 2009, 4:23 pmIt is up to the University itself.
:-)

At this stage, don't worry so much about this.

You'll have other things to worry about regarding the proposed BPTC.

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Added on September 16, 2009, 4:25 pmYou are mistaken about the discrimination in inner/middle towards asians.

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Added on September 16, 2009, 4:27 pmThe 1st question has been answered.

Those are the core subjects that every law student will have to go through.

No, they do not have to read a lot of history books.

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Added on September 16, 2009, 4:29 pmNo it is not. It is the same for all 4 Inns.

http://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/

Apply directly to them by following the instructions from the application form.

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Sep 16 2009, 04:29 PM

As answered above, it is not even close, though the degree of the utter bar awarded by lincoln's inn is recognised as equivalent to a postgrad qualification from an accredited institution.

Anyway, do check out http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/540/01/

on your usage on 'an'. It might help. :-)

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Sep 17 2009, 07:40 PM

Anyway, your addition on 18.9.2009 at 9.15pm is not accurate.

You'll be surprised that all 4 Inns will claim that they are the most prestigious Inn in England and Wales.
Different people join for different reasons.
A very good example is where Middle Temple call their members to the degree of the utter bar (a.k.a. degree of barrister, yes it is a title) in full court dress. You'll get to wear the whole set. Wigs, Bands and Gowns.

However, as for Lincoln;s you're strictly forbidden from wearing a wig during the call ceremony. You are permitted to wear it for photography purposes but not during the ceremony itself. The Bands and Gowns are flexible and not a requirement.

As for Inner, You are required to wear bands and gowns during the call ceremony.


These 4 Inns have their own advantages. Example, Lincolns will claim to be the largest and the most prestigious for having quite a number of prime ministers as members.
However, other inns may not have that many prime ministers as members due to their size which is relatively smaller.

Another example is where currently, Middle Templars are dominating the Supreme Court of UK.
Quite a number of them actually.
Another claim might be advanced by Middle Temple saying we have the current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of UK being a Middle Templar.

:-)

In my opinion, the abovementioned statement is not an accurate representation of the status quo as perceived in England and Wales.

PS: I deliberately omitted the word UK because Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own requirements. In Scotland, they have stables and not Inns. :-)

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Added on September 18, 2009, 11:05 pmTry looking for a documentary called The Barristers by The Open University/BBC

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Barristers-DVD...53286198&sr=8-1

It is a good overview on the profession as barristers.

:-)

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Added on September 18, 2009, 11:06 pmMine suck as well. I'm just sharing the link so that you'll understand why do we use 'a' and not 'an'

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Sep 18 2009, 11:06 PM

1. Yea, you can. Out of curiosity, may I ask why?
2. Please check with the BSB regarding Bar Aptitude test. As far as I remember, the report stated that there are not limits on the number of attempts for the Aptitude test.
3. It depends on your institution. Some will require you to wear your gown and wig for the assessment but a suit for the training. (Wigs and Gowns are provided for the assessment)

As for the call day, you may rent them. However, the dress code for the call ceremony for each Inn differs accordingly.

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Added on September 19, 2009, 11:57 pmIMO, one of the most important thing for a barrister is research skills. Therefore, do check out http://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/. The answers are hidden somewhere in the site. Alternatively, you may consider contacting their Treasury Office, Admission Dept.



This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Sep 19 2009, 11:57 PM

No, it is a different one. That test has been there for quite awhile if you've read the Consolidated Regulations of The Inns of Court and The General Council of The Bar

Like I've said, a simple research by clicking on the Admission at the website and subsequently on admission forms would give you an explanation on the procedure.

Anyway, here it is

"Please return the following forms to the Treasury Office together with:

1. Your original degree certificate — minimum requirement for admission IIii (Hons) — (If you do not wish to send this, please ask your university to produce a statement confirming your pass.)

OR

2. If you have not yet completed your degree, your original General Certificate of Education ‘O’ Level or General Certificate of Secondary Education for English Language. (If you do not wish to send this, then a statement from the appropriate authority.) Please note that grade C or above is the minimum requirement for admission to the Inn.

AND

3. Confirmation that you are pursuing a degree course. (This should take the form of a letter from the appropriate institution on their headed paper.)

You should be aware that the Inn will make enquiries to help establish your suitability for membership, if the need arises.
"

Do note that certain Inns may require your degree to be a degree in law. I am not sure about Lincoln's so do contact them.

Also, there are currently changes to the application forms. So, the treasury office is still your best contact.
The admission fee is going to be increased to 100 quid.

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Added on September 21, 2009, 1:50 amIt depends on how s.3's definition of a qualified person will be amended.
:-)



This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Sep 21 2009, 01:50 AM

The BVC is and was never recognised. :-)

Try petitioning to the High Court of Malaya with a BVC qualification and you'll have it struck out.

The Degree of the Utter Bar which grants the holder the title, barrister-at-law is the recognised qualification.

Like I said above, it depends on how s.3 of the LPA will be amended.

Anyone can tell you that it will be recognised or it will not be recognised but would you want to rely on that to decide if the English Bar is the route for you? Effectively, it is up to Parliament to amend s.3 (Draft amendments from the Gov..naturally).

Also, on a side note, do not limit your options to the English Bar alone. The admission methods always change and apparently, it is getting tougher. You'll be surprised that there are students (Malaysians included) who actually failed at least twice before passing at the Bar. The changes from 2010 would effective condone them as they will have a limited 1 attempt after failing their 1st sitting.

Hmmmm, should have cleared the language issue from the outset.

US
Decide on the state that you intend to practice.
Contact the respective state's Bar Association.
Find out if your qualification is recognised for purposes of sitting for the State Bar Exams. (chances are that you will have to sit for an LLM from an ABA accredited institution)

You'll get your answer from them that way.

Aus
I'll leave this to my learned friends practising in Australia to explain.

CLP
You'll only register for CLP exams sometime early next year according to the Qualifying Board's timetable. It is not based on the date that you register at the college. Therefore, registering for CLP at this stage may not be a problem for you.

Solicitor's qualification exam

The LPC is not recognised by the Qualifying Board. For you to be a qualified person in Malaysia, you need to be a 'solicitor in England'. Currently, you have to complete 2 years of training contract period before you can be admitted as a Solicitor there. Therefore, do consider this in light of the availability of training contracts in the England.

I would discourage anyone from taking the bvc if the reason why they are interested is because they think that it is more prestigious.

Yes they do.

They refer to Practitioner's text from England, India, Australia, etc.
These are persuasive authorities.

However, if you can find a Malaysian case that recognises the case or principle that you are relying on, then that would be binding.
:-)

*subject to the case being distinguished...