are you looking for any particular provision?





This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Nov 5 2010, 03:01 AM

I believe that he is referring to this

http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/general_not...stics_2009.html


Further, I wish to state that at the end of the day, in legal practice, it all comes down to you as an individual. Lest that you won't get a partnership, this is not the appropriate time for you to consider for a partnership in large firms. Not everyone wants to be a partner in a large firm and not everyone wants to remain in active practice.

While you're in MMU, just do your best and see where it takes you. Your worries will not make you a better lawyer.

Always fall back to section 3 on the definition of a qualified person under the legal profession act.

your only possibility is under section 3(iii) and that is subject to the qualification being gazetted by the Qualifying Board in exercising their statutory powers.

Are you going?

I'll probably be there.

Assuming that you intend to gain admission into the Malaysian Bar, you'll have to ensure that you are in possession of qualifications that would make you a qualified person for purposes of the Legal Profession Act 1976.

On the assumption that your qualification is a recognised English law degree by the Qualifying Board, you will be required to sit for the Certificate in Legal Practice Examination prior to being able to petition as a qualified person under section 3 LPA 1976 to the High Court of Malaya/Sabah & Sarawak (formerly Borneo)[do note that the section and ordinance is different for both Sabah and Sarawak] for admission into the local bar.

Your pupillage begins on the day you file your petition at the respective High Court and you will be expected to ensure that it is for a continuous period of 9 months (Malaya) or 12 months (Sabah & Sarawak) [subject to exceptions, eg: prior approval by the Bar Council].

Upon completion of your pupillage, you will be required to file a standard affidavit and the the court will accordingly fix a hearing date for your petition.

Nb: I've omitted the process where you would have applied for a limited right of audience.

You'll find more information at page 1 of this thread.

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Added on February 14, 2011, 6:18 pm:-)

What do you want out of it? The freedom to choose where to work at the expense of your (or your parents'/relatives'/friends') pocket or a definite job for a certain number of years without incurring further additional costs?

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Feb 14 2011, 06:18 PM

I'm a science student. :-)

No you can't. The qualification of LPC is not recognised in Malaysia. However, should you complete a training contract and get yourself entered on the rolls then as a Solicitor, you may be recognised.

A word of caution is on the proposed CBC and CBE where the BC and AG intends to streamline all prospective lawyers in Malaya to go through the same entry method. If they were to go ahead with this, I highly doubt that they would deny the recognition of Solicitor in the Court of Judicature of England and Wales. But, I believe that they may require you to sit for an additional examination such as the CBE before being eligible to petition to the High Court of Malaya for admission.

Cheers!

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Added on March 23, 2012, 1:43 pmJust to clarify that a 2:1 is not the minimum for professional entry or pupillage. As with many things, it may be implemented as a requirement but as of now and the foreseeable future after consultations by the BSB, it is very unlikely to be implemented. The same applies to the consultations made by the Malaysian Bar as regards the CBC.

As regards mini-pupillages, internship, attachments, etc, it essentially depends on the specific needs of any particular employer or chambers.

Cheers!

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Added on March 23, 2012, 1:50 pmI noticed that there are some considerations made towards attending Queen's University Belfast for an LLB and thereafter practising in Malaysia.

Do take note that for this route, you will need to ensure that you take the English Land Law option. Without this, the Qualifying Board will without a doubt reject your qualification in the event that you intend to sit for CLP. The same caution applies to other recognised universities in Scotland or Northern Ireland.

Cheers!

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Mar 23 2012, 01:50 PM

This depends on the qualification that is recognised.

For example, if the notification under section 3 of the LPA recognizes an Hons degree then it doesnt matter if you get 3rd class as it still is an Hons degree. However, if there are specific requirements such as a minimum of 2:2 in an Hons degree and not merely an Hons degree then a 3rd class will not make you a qualified person.

Cheers!

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Added on March 24, 2012, 11:18 amLOL, I do what I can within the limited time that I'm free.

Been really busy over the past few years.

:-)

I'm sure alsree would understand.
hahaha

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Mar 24 2012, 11:18 AM

The application fee is the same. You just don't pay tuition and any other fees charged by the local tuition centre. The application process is also the same. You just don't get to use the courier usually provided for by the more established local tuition provider.

I doubt you will send it via ordinary post. Hence, I used the word courier. Yes to submit the forms, etc.

The Bar Council is not empowered to recognise any qualification. Section 3© empowers the Qualifying Board and not the Bar Council. Last I checked, they still recognise the University of London external programme. It is not necessary to enrol into a private college to study the external programme. As long as you meet the method of gaining admission as required by the Qualifying Board, and subject to other requirements, it should not be a problem.

Self studied for certain subjects.

The standard should be the same. The whole programme was designed to be self studied and it is not necessary to attend a tuition centre.

The acceptance rate is high for the programme but the passing rate is low. You should be able to find this information on their website or the handbook. The private colleges in Malaysia cannot approve your application to study the external programme. Well, last I checked, this was still true.

The external programme is strictly speaking, an external programme unlike a twinning programme or a collaboration programme. You deal directly with the University. The college merely provides tuition to you. You may decide to stop going to college halfway through and it does not affect your status as an external student of the University.

Cheers!

It is the same for both. You can find the answer at the first page of this thread. If you need further details, do visit the bar standards board's website. They are the regulatory arm for the bar and deal with issues on qualifications and the BPTC.

http://www.barstandardsboard.org.uk/qualif...as-a-barrister/

I'll try and post the full list when I have the time.

There are 14 recognised universities in Australia, 5 in New Zealand and 65 in the United Kingdom.

There are also 2 additional notification under Section 3. They are:-

Solicitor of the Supreme Court of Judicature of England
Barrister-at-Law of the Honourable Society of King's Inn

Different rules apply to those with qualifications or admissions prior to certain dates. But I doubt that it would apply to any prospective law students.

Cheers!

United Kingdom

Full Time Degrees

University of Birmingham
University of Bristol
University of Cambridge
University of East Anglia
University of Essex
University of Exeter
University of Hertfordshire
University of Hull
University of Leeds
University of Leicester
University of Liverpool
University of London - King's College
University of London - London School of Economics and Political Science
University of London - Queen Mary and Westfield College
University of London - School of Oriental and African Studies
University of London - University College
University of Manchester
University of Northumbria at Newcastle
University of Nottingham
Nottingham Trent University
Oxford Brookes University
University of Oxford
Queen's University Belfast
University of Reading
University of Sheffield
University of Southampton
University College of Wales, Aberystwyth
University of Wales, Cardiff
University of Warwick
University of West of England in Bristol

*Credits to jhong for the updated list

External Degrees

University of London - LLB - Law

Source: Part II of the New Guidelines on Qualifications and Requirements to Qualify to Sit for the Malaysian Certificate in Legal Practice (CLP) Examination (Guidelines) in Appendix S of the Legal Profession Act 1976 Statute Book.

Solicitor

Solicitor of the Supreme Court of Judicature of England

Source: PU (B) 633/81

Australia

University of Adelaide
Australian National University
Macquaire University
Monash University
University of Melbourne
University of New South Wales
University of Queensland
University of Sydney
University of Tasmania
University of Western Australia
University of Technology, Sydney
Bond University
Murdoch University
Queensland University of Technology

New Zealand

The University of Auckland
The University of Canterbury
The University of Otago
Victoria University of Wellington
University of Waikato

Source: PU (B) 14/2001

Ireland

Barrister-at-Law

Barrister-at-Law of the Honourable Society of King's Inn, Dublin, Eire

Source: PU (B) 341/82


Please take note that the information above is just a reference and it may not be updated. It is always prudent to verify the information with the Qualifying Board directly. I shall not be liable for any loss whether economic or otherwise resulting directly or indirectly from the information above.


Note: I've amended the first page of this thread to reflect my latest post. Cheers!

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Apr 25 2012, 12:41 PM

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Added on April 25, 2012, 12:45 pm

I've contacted the Qualifying Board and they confirmed your information. I've updated the list accordingly with credits to you.

Cheers!

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: May 2 2012, 06:54 PM

I failed my A-levels so I don't think that you can't obtain at least a 2:2 with mediocre A-level grades

Yes they do.

Mate,

They will never (at least I hope that is the case) sell you their student record or pass list. Do note the existence of the Data Protection Act 1998. Mid this year, Malaysia will be the same after the coming into force of the Personal Data Protection Act 2010.

In any event, did you ask them about the standard University procedure for prospective employers to verify the authenticity of a particular qualification purportedly obtained by a particular individual from UOL?

Cheers!

[quote=mikehwy,May 14 2012, 10:44 AM]
[quote=schizophrenic,May 14 2012, 01:19 PM]
Mate,

They will never (at least I hope that is the case) sell you their student record or pass list. Do note the existence of the Data Protection Act 1998. Mid this year, Malaysia will be the same after the coming into force of the Personal Data Protection Act 2010.

In any event, did you ask them about the standard University procedure for prospective employers to verify the authenticity of a particular qualification purportedly obtained by a particular individual from UOL?

Cheers!

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Hello there. its a good advise and i will email to them again about any standard procedure in verifying the papers. thanks.

i was wondering if there us any other way to vet the cert?

thanks.

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The last time I vetted a degree cert, we actually wrote to the Uni enclosing a photocopy of the cert and requested for a confirmation.

This was for a university in India.

Look at the definition of a qualified person under the Act. The answer is there. You do not fall within the jurisdiction of the Qualifying Board (based on your intended route).

Do note that with an LPC, you can never be called to the English Bar.

I repeat what I said earlier. Refer to section 3 on ye definition of a qualified person. You need not be recognised by the qualifying board for certain qualifications as they have been statutorily recognised.

The whole purpose of ensuring that you are a qualified person is to have sufficient locus standi to petition for admission as an advocate and solicitor into the high court of Malaya. Qualifying board's certification is only one of them.

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Added on May 19, 2012, 2:01 pmHe would have satisfied paragraph b as a barrister if he were to be called to the bar in England.

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Added on May 19, 2012, 2:02 pmI've replied your pm

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: May 19 2012, 02:02 PM