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 Freshwater Stingray Maniac!, Let's discuss freshwater stingray!!

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nezumitaro
post Jun 13 2008, 05:59 PM

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this hobi is too expensive for me LOL..
TSyscagro
post Jun 13 2008, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jun 13 2008, 05:59 PM)
this hobi is too expensive for me LOL..
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then what your hobby???
from what i observe, no hobby in this wrld is cheap!
its jus depend on the person point of view....
if they likes it, no matter how much they will try to get it....
hobby = pricelessss......


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post Jun 13 2008, 08:41 PM

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this is a JUS BORN baby stingray....
look at the stomach, they do hav egg yolk in the body....
the egg yolk take about 1 week to disolve.....
within that period of time, the stingray can survive without feeding
but anyhow, as stingray eat like pig, they will eat anything that around them....smile.gif
giv comment if im wrong.... cuz that what i got to know about.....
mayb someone out there are more experience...
still learninG!!!


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FlamingIT
post Jun 13 2008, 08:48 PM

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wow

incredible

interested here also

but ur location too far... hehe

maybe 1 day

wat else u play?
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post Jun 13 2008, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingIT @ Jun 13 2008, 08:48 PM)
wow

incredible

interested here also

but ur location too far... hehe

maybe 1 day

wat else u play?
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hahaha.....
my location not far.......
during weekday, i most probably will be at kl....
onli weekend i ill be back to my hometown....
i travel almost everyday....cuz my job doesnt allow me to stay at one place...
even in kl i do have my fishes....cuz fishes are part of my life....
for now,
i'm into Arowana, Stingray & Discus

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post Jun 14 2008, 02:26 AM

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is a 4 feet tank size big enough to conduct captive breeding of stingray?
and another thing is most stingray are wild collected from rivers such as Amazon, am i right to say captive bred stingrays are more suitable and adaptive in aquariums & water composition?

i have read it before in books, that freshwater stingray have ancestry decent from their saltwater cousins. During the earth continental drift (tectonic drift) movement of the earth continents, has causing sub-divided oceans and rivers are formed from it, and water gradually looses it salinity level in waters further inland farther away from the ocean, some stingrays are trapped and become adapted to freshwater rivers over thousands of years in its evolution and survival capability. Some can even survive in brackish water, the area which the river meets the sea. Research has findings shows that bacteria that live in the digestive system of a freshwater stingray are the same ones that are found in those stingrays that live in sea water.

Guess that will answer why freshwater stingrays are sensitive to changes in the water in terms of salinity and chemicals.

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post Jun 14 2008, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 13 2008, 08:56 PM)
hahaha.....
my location not far.......
during weekday, i most probably will be at kl....
onli weekend i ill be back to my hometown....
i travel almost everyday....cuz my job doesnt allow me to stay at one place...
even in kl i do have my fishes....cuz fishes are part of my life....
for now,
i'm into Arowana, Stingray & Discus
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where ur location in kl?

got time we come out chat chat lor'

thanks
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post Jun 15 2008, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(blitzboy @ Jun 14 2008, 02:26 AM)
is a 4 feet tank size big enough to conduct captive breeding of stingray?
and another thing is most stingray are wild collected from rivers such as Amazon, am i right to say captive bred stingrays are more suitable and adaptive in aquariums & water composition?

i have read it before in books, that freshwater stingray have ancestry decent from their saltwater cousins. During the earth continental drift (tectonic drift) movement of the earth continents, has causing sub-divided oceans and rivers are formed from it, and water gradually looses it salinity level in waters further inland farther away from the ocean, some stingrays are trapped and become adapted to freshwater rivers over thousands of years in its evolution and survival capability. Some can even survive in brackish water, the area which the river meets the sea. Research has findings shows that bacteria that live in the digestive system of a freshwater stingray are the same ones that are found in those stingrays that live in sea water.

Guess that will answer why freshwater stingrays are sensitive to changes in the water in terms of salinity and chemicals.
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Hi blitzboy, you r absolutely correct...what u say i true....
dats y sometime u will see ppl saying that having a stingray or raring a stingray is difficult while some say no....
there are few tactics or secret recipe that we need to know....
i learn from mistake....i have lost alot of money in this stingray, but i also do learn alot of thing.....
im glad that you brought up this issue....
1st of all, stingray are definitely from amazon which is Brazil, Peru, Mexico and etc.....
4year ago, when i rare this stingray, most of the people have failed so do i, but some ppl survive ....
1 have a bunch of fren rare this stingray 4 years ago...so we learn from here n there to find out the reason
4 years ago, our main source are from brazil, so when the ray's arrive malaysia, they need times to get use to our malaysia waterquality and environment......sme survive some no....
after these time we have learn n keep it survive, we manage to captive breed it...
for now, if you wan to buy a stingray from a LFS, the most important Question that you need to ask the LFS is where the ray's come from.....
you need to very sure where the ray's come from, if it s not captive breed then think twice...if captive breed, then the chances of survival is higher..
but if the LFS say import from somewhere else or he brought from someone who import from somewhere else....then becareful...
beside this, when u deicde to buy the ray's... ask the LFS to feed the ray....to check whether they eat or not....is they eat...then add another point in ur buying chances.....
many other thing that you need to look into before you buy a ray.....
will put in more information sooon!!!

nice to meet u blitzboy




QUOTE(FlamingIT @ Jun 14 2008, 01:53 PM)
where ur location in kl?

got time we come out chat chat lor'

thanks
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my location is Sunway.....wink.gif
we may make a plan to meet up if possible.... thumbup.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 03:28 AM

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WARNING!!!....
pls do not attempt to try this at home.....
it is VERY DANGEROUS!!!

i happen to take this pic because the ray's are still young...they are less agressive....
but anyhow, they do attack!!!....
and it will stress them too....

i doing this is jus to get a good pic to keep in my documentary.....

hope you all enjoy....

This post has been edited by yscagro: Jun 27 2008, 05:57 PM
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post Jun 16 2008, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 16 2008, 03:28 AM)
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WARNING!!!....
pls do not attempt to try this at home.....
it is VERY DANGEROUS!!!

i happen to take this pic because the ray's are still young...they are less agressive....
but anyhow, they do attack!!!....
and it will stress them too....

i doing this is jus to get a good pic to keep in my documentary.....

hope you all enjoy....
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wah

nice stingray

by the way i study at sunway college

when free yum cha?

pm me ur contact

i wan visit u to c ur stingray

hehe icon_rolleyes.gif

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TSyscagro
post Jun 16 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingIT @ Jun 16 2008, 03:45 PM)
wah

nice stingray

by the way i study at sunway college

when free yum cha?

pm me ur contact

i wan visit u to c ur stingray

hehe icon_rolleyes.gif
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oooo...icic...thats near....
you can get my contact from the pet shop list ma.... brows.gif

buthen at the moment those baby is back to my hometown...sad.gif

but some new ray's will arrive by end of this month i think....

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post Jun 17 2008, 05:36 PM

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It's not a good sign if you see your rays breath like this....
Few problem might have cause this..
Water condition, ammonia level too high
Worst if the rays already being affected with virus internally....


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post Jun 17 2008, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 17 2008, 05:36 PM)
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It's not a good sign if you see your rays breath like this....
Few problem might have cause this..
Water condition, ammonia level too high
Worst if the rays already being affected with virus internally....
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Hi there nice ray you have, how do you tell the differences between the gender of ray? Male and female physical differences ??

i am considering keeping rays, and looking for those captive bred ones. If you manage to breed them i don't mind to buy a male and female sting ray from you. I think a 4 feet tank would be sufficient to breed them. I am from subang jaya. LOL.

you mean sting ray do attack when you handle it? you mean it bites your fingers?

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post Jun 17 2008, 10:56 PM

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i will post up some pic of the rays to show you how to differentiate between male n female....
very easy onli......
currently my fren have some captive breed motoro onli.....n the picture shown is my latest purchase from my fren....captive SP stingray....
so if you want i can get it for u....wink.gif
4 feet tank is enough but the wide need to be at least 2feet.....

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post Jun 18 2008, 06:30 PM

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Here is the picture that can show you how to differentiate ray's between male and female....

A male have 2 claspers while female don't....
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Enjoy!!!

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post Jun 18 2008, 07:46 PM

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can this stingray kill us like killing steve?
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QUOTE(HolyCross @ Jun 18 2008, 07:46 PM)
can this stingray kill us like killing steve?
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the sting ray that killed steve is the big one, and live in sea water.
if I am not mistaken the largest of all stingray is the manta ray and grow up to 5 - 6 meters in wing span.
the size is very big and so wide the way it swims it's like flying or gliding through water.

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look at the size of that thing compare to the diver
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post Jun 18 2008, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 11 2008, 01:28 AM)
Some of the stingray pic that i have or have it before.... laugh.gif
Motoro

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Sumspecial ray....unnamed

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more to come....pls make this forum hot!!....smile.gif
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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 11 2008, 07:13 PM)
Another Picture of Motoro Stingray
Its For Sale too....
Matured enough for breeding
Approximately 12" inch diameter

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Comment please biggrin.gif
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Woah! shocking.gif shocking.gif u are damn cool man thumbup.gif sweat.gif

how much does it cost u?
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post Jun 18 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(blitzboy @ Jun 18 2008, 10:39 PM)
the sting ray that killed steve is the big one, and live in sea water.
if I am not mistaken the largest of all stingray is the manta ray and grow up to 5 - 6 meters in wing span.
the size is very big and so wide the way it swims it's like flying or gliding through water.

user posted image
look at the size of that thing compare to the diver
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u r right blitsboy....wink.gif
freshwater stingray can grow up to MAX 3 feet onli and depend on the kind of breed.....
normally onli around 2 feet




QUOTE(hazzy @ Jun 18 2008, 10:41 PM)
Woah!  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  u are damn cool man  thumbup.gif  sweat.gif

how much does it cost u?
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hahaha......its cost from lowest around rm200/rm300 til infinity.....
some breed cause about 5digit even is a jus a baby stingray....

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post Jun 19 2008, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 18 2008, 11:46 PM)
u r right blitsboy....wink.gif
freshwater stingray can grow up to MAX 3 feet onli and depend on the kind of breed.....
normally onli around 2 feet
hahaha......its cost from lowest around rm200/rm300 til infinity.....
some breed cause about 5digit even is a jus a baby stingray....
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5digit! shocking.gif blink.gif
thats expensive biggrin.gif
upload more of ur sting ray picture bro! its gorgeous!

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