start from 176cm 55kg, 3rd years training here...
feel want to cry when see above result ......if that really achieved within 2 years...

mind to share your diet and any supplement please?

A lot of improvement within 2 years

How long u been worked out before jun 2006?

According to your experience, do u agree that to get big and shaped,
among all effort diet is 70% (or even more) and working out 30%?

men gymnastic athletes. i think u can see some in bukit jalil secondary school (sports school)

the same thing go to other countries young gymnastic athletes.

i know. they can grow that bigger n heaiver just disallowed to.
however their muscle already very impressed at young age, even better than
some adult who doing budybuilding. of course it is unfair to compare prof. athlete
with non-prof.

excuse me, how you recognize either one is ectomorph, mesomorph or endomorph even if he has been working out for years and look muscular now?

Ectomorpoh mean hardgainer and slow muscle grow/improvement rate, how if when someone started working out he look ectomorph, but fast improvement and look muscular within 1-2years only? he is still categorized as ectomorph or mesomorph?

How is your guy progress rate if u think that u are ectomorph? If someone look ectomorph but after improve his diet and working out he gain weight/muscle and strength with fast rate, is he still categorized as ectomorph? or probably mesomorph actually?There is a guy created an ectomorph group in bb.com, he stated that he started work out on 1999 (i dont know when he fully committed) but his latest pic look like 6 months progress of some beginner here.

Below is wrist pic of a 175++cm tall ectomorph who joined gym over years and gained weight from 50kg to 73kg, but i think he look like 60-65kg only and most just weight, a few muscle. Other than small wrist, when he try to spread his finger you will see his bones very clear.


Most ectomorph have this problem too?

sorry, "chinese english" i guess XD
I mean, if u think u are really an ectomorph, do u have a great progress or slow progress?
Progress seem has nothing to do with wrist and bones on hand, i just curious if an ectomorph hand and wrist still look like the one shown in pic even if he reach 100kg weight or gain decent muscle.