how long have u been training?
i will post mine in around 1 month time.
to see some difference.
coz i started only 5 weeks plus almost 6.

He's clean. He's a friend of mine too lah. We arm wrestled once at a place near Damansara. I forgot where lah...we were smoking shisha that time.
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This feller rite? He's 22. He's a year elder than me.

Oh the result of the arm wrestling? I lost.

He's doing 80kg 10RM

I'm doing 50kg, 5RM

When I Started: 
Jun, 2001

definitely meso... hahaha... 55 jump to almost 80. =.=

AIYAK!

55 kg to 78 kg.... dasyat wei..
worse than me..i thought i was bad...

i am 57 - 70 kg....hmmmm.. but my body fat not that high..just the tummy area only..

Chinese training methods have FAR FAR more methods to recover than merely HGH. They've also got their own recovery foods. They believe in eating snake, turtles, worms and bugs which the Western would would scream at. They also have a massage therapist for every lifter. For joint recovery they would have acupuncture and they believe sea cucumber helps as well as the cartilage off animals.

HGH isn't even a drug that weightlifters usually take. They would take test that's for sure. His abs are like that because he needs a strong core to hold the weights overhead. When you're holding 180KG'S overhead, you need thick abs. My coach has a thick core, would you say he's taking HGH?