Just for the sake of discussion. From those BT + Hyjal + Sunwell raiding guilds.

With new recruits for BT + Hyjal + Sunwell, would you consider an undergeared applicant?

Consider before saying no :

a) Majority of the raiders would have already been geared enough that they can carry a few undergeared ppl through. Not a lot but a few.
b) With the Sunwell badge loot, they are wearing SSC/TK equivalent, if not for some that are also best in slot.
c) Some of the crafting professions already give best-in-slot items e.g. Alchemist's Stone. Some, mind you.
d) If they link you a WWS where they were doing pretty well with healing, would you consider them?

There seems to be a severe shortage of recruits for BT + Hyjal + Sunwell. Well, across all servers by the looks of things.

Am wondering how other guilds are managing this.

EDIT : Undergeared = Kara/Gruul/Mag/Badge Epic Gear. Does not include any greens/blues.

This post has been edited by myremi: Jun 4 2008, 10:47 AM

Kings83, I'm doing something I've never ask someone on this forum to do. Can you please keep quiet in this thread? I'd rather hear from other raiders rather than your prejudices.

Quaz, be nice. Even if Kings83 is irritating, just ignore him.

Trinklets? That's the easiest epic badge upgrade to get.

Look guys, please do not get this thread locked ok? OKAY?

I change my OP a bit citing the definition to be used for Undergeared is Epics from Kara/Gruuls/Mags/Badge rewards.

Let's keep it nice folks.

Would like to hear from various classes about this.

Resteering back to the topic at hand.

Recruiting an undergeared epic-geared player for BT + Hyjal + Sunwell.

Why? Reasons for yes and no.

Yeah, it is an interesting topic.

With patch 2.4 and the doing away with the BT and Hyjal attunement quests, a lot of guilds are now heading into BT + Hyjal. With Sunwell, on the other hand, a lot of the hardcore raiding guilds are having core members leaving because of the difficulty of the encounters.

Looking at my own server recruitment pages, even the hardcore guilds seem to be recruiting for ppl to fill in their spots.

So, thought it might be an interesting discussion. And to see if can glean any new ideas from others who have gone down that road.

Wait a minute, GROWLS?!?!?!?!

hiyas, you not playing wow anymore i hear?

join us at bogardan's restaurant saturday nite?

*piak kidi*

We have had the odd 1-2 cases of something similar happening recently but the core members remains the same. Probably because we didn't spend a long time farming BT/Hyjal so the core members aren't bored yet.

Anyway, back to the topic, was wondering how other guilds deal with this shortage. Anyone else to comment?

Malaysians have a pretty good reputation for derailing the topic of discussion and resorting to accusations and insults hurling.

Those who are starting to take the responses personally, please leave your mud-slinging elsewhere.

Discussion : Recruiting raiders who are geared in low-gear-level epics (Kara, Gruul, Mags, PVP, Badges, Heroics) for BT, Hyjal, Sunwell. BT+Hyjal can be group together. Sunwell can be considered as a much harder instance.

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Added on June 5, 2008, 9:11 amOk for everyone else, as much as these kind of statements are inviting a lot of correction, try to stick to the topic at hand.

Kings83, you are making a mickey out of yourself these days.

This post has been edited by myremi: Jun 5 2008, 09:11 AM

The difference between you and me is that I'm not an ******* when I ask people for opinions neither do I make stupid remarks when someone has a differing opinion. I have already clearly stated that I will not bother to respond to your viewpoints since you have a tendency to put people down, even new players (who we are suppose to be helping in this forum).

What orangbulu stated is very much so a fact. In every fight, there is also a time limiting factor which is outside of the Enrage Timer. Almost every fight. And what he said in all the 4 fights, yes, it is very much so true.

As for buddies with Quazacolt, so what? I'm buddies with a lot of other forum posters what. It's called networking. For god's sake, I know Noyze when we were kids, Odinn was friends with my sister. I had fun with the people I met at the WoW Gatherings I arrange every time I go to KL.

Be polite. You don't have to like people but just be polite. And for goodness sake, don't get this thread lock.

Hi sets84 you hot chiq! Hahahahaha!

Got :
ZA Bag
MgT Bag
Phoenix Pet
DoT Trinklet

Want :
Mag's Bag
White Chocobo!
BE Orb from MgT

Anyway, so totally derailed. Meet up for discussion at the Frames tomorrow night. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/686954

BTW, we're going DUTCH! So bring your wallets.

Do you guys notice how any thread is derailed by Kings83 into a tanking advice thread and still sometimes facing the same issues?

I was informed by my German colleagues to finish the meetings on Thursday early so that we can drive out of Dresden and get to Erfurt in time to watch the Germans play.

Very strict instructions. >.<

Hmm...18 pages.

Ah well. Heading to a medieval tavern for dinner tonite. Will post pictures.

(Total Derailment). HAha!

Didn't Kurei say that he's now DPS warrior and no longer prot?