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TSmyremi
post Jun 4 2008, 08:08 AM, updated 18y ago

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Just for the sake of discussion. From those BT + Hyjal + Sunwell raiding guilds.

With new recruits for BT + Hyjal + Sunwell, would you consider an undergeared applicant?

Consider before saying no :

a) Majority of the raiders would have already been geared enough that they can carry a few undergeared ppl through. Not a lot but a few.
b) With the Sunwell badge loot, they are wearing SSC/TK equivalent, if not for some that are also best in slot.
c) Some of the crafting professions already give best-in-slot items e.g. Alchemist's Stone. Some, mind you.
d) If they link you a WWS where they were doing pretty well with healing, would you consider them?

There seems to be a severe shortage of recruits for BT + Hyjal + Sunwell. Well, across all servers by the looks of things.

Am wondering how other guilds are managing this.

EDIT : Undergeared = Kara/Gruul/Mag/Badge Epic Gear. Does not include any greens/blues.

This post has been edited by myremi: Jun 4 2008, 10:47 AM
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post Jun 4 2008, 10:07 AM

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Kings83, I'm doing something I've never ask someone on this forum to do. Can you please keep quiet in this thread? I'd rather hear from other raiders rather than your prejudices.

Quaz, be nice. tongue.gif Even if Kings83 is irritating, just ignore him.
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post Jun 4 2008, 10:21 AM

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Trinklets? That's the easiest epic badge upgrade to get. doh.gif
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post Jun 4 2008, 10:29 AM

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Look guys, please do not get this thread locked ok? OKAY?
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post Jun 4 2008, 10:49 AM

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I change my OP a bit citing the definition to be used for Undergeared is Epics from Kara/Gruuls/Mags/Badge rewards.

Let's keep it nice folks.

Would like to hear from various classes about this.
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post Jun 4 2008, 11:05 AM

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Resteering back to the topic at hand.

Recruiting an undergeared epic-geared player for BT + Hyjal + Sunwell.

Why? Reasons for yes and no.
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post Jun 4 2008, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(BoardWarrior @ Jun 4 2008, 01:12 PM)
I have a lot of thoughts on this subject since it's something that every raiding guild that wants to push progression will have to face.

Too bad I'll be AFK till tonight.

As par for the course for these forums, a few decent posts from people who do raid actively vs a lot of background noise.

Will post more tonight since this is the most interesting topic on the boards in recent times.
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Yeah, it is an interesting topic.

With patch 2.4 and the doing away with the BT and Hyjal attunement quests, a lot of guilds are now heading into BT + Hyjal. With Sunwell, on the other hand, a lot of the hardcore raiding guilds are having core members leaving because of the difficulty of the encounters.

Looking at my own server recruitment pages, even the hardcore guilds seem to be recruiting for ppl to fill in their spots.

So, thought it might be an interesting discussion. And to see if can glean any new ideas from others who have gone down that road.
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post Jun 4 2008, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 4 2008, 01:18 PM)
Actually, i've not done Gruul yet but i don't think it's possible to bring in undergeared ppl for gruul's too.
bcos of growls.
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Wait a minute, GROWLS?!?!?!?!
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post Jun 4 2008, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Jun 4 2008, 01:56 PM)
the bold words makes me giggle...
btw just passing through... arlo people
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hiyas, you not playing wow anymore i hear?
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post Jun 4 2008, 02:24 PM

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post Jun 4 2008, 02:28 PM

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*piak kidi*
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post Jun 4 2008, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(busbos @ Jun 4 2008, 04:06 PM)


Added on June 4, 2008, 4:14 pm@myremi

what i could say is
the bad thing of recruit some undergeared ppl is that
when we already geared they up to some point
they will go MIA
this is what happened to my guild quite alot
n this is the thing that pissed me off
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We have had the odd 1-2 cases of something similar happening recently but the core members remains the same. Probably because we didn't spend a long time farming BT/Hyjal so the core members aren't bored yet.

Anyway, back to the topic, was wondering how other guilds deal with this shortage. Anyone else to comment?
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post Jun 5 2008, 09:09 AM

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Malaysians have a pretty good reputation for derailing the topic of discussion and resorting to accusations and insults hurling.

Those who are starting to take the responses personally, please leave your mud-slinging elsewhere.

Discussion : Recruiting raiders who are geared in low-gear-level epics (Kara, Gruul, Mags, PVP, Badges, Heroics) for BT, Hyjal, Sunwell. BT+Hyjal can be group together. Sunwell can be considered as a much harder instance.


Added on June 5, 2008, 9:11 am
QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 5 2008, 08:45 AM)
I said tanks and healers are over-geared, so they can carry undergeared dps....
why u say healer go oom pulak?? If healer oom, healer is not overgeared.
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Ok for everyone else, as much as these kind of statements are inviting a lot of correction, try to stick to the topic at hand.

Kings83, you are making a mickey out of yourself these days.

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post Jun 5 2008, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 5 2008, 09:17 AM)
This is going on a loop,
as usual, u can't prove otherwise.

you just want people to take ur word for it.
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The difference between you and me is that I'm not an ******* when I ask people for opinions neither do I make stupid remarks when someone has a differing opinion. I have already clearly stated that I will not bother to respond to your viewpoints since you have a tendency to put people down, even new players (who we are suppose to be helping in this forum).

What orangbulu stated is very much so a fact. In every fight, there is also a time limiting factor which is outside of the Enrage Timer. Almost every fight. And what he said in all the 4 fights, yes, it is very much so true.

As for buddies with Quazacolt, so what? I'm buddies with a lot of other forum posters what. It's called networking. For god's sake, I know Noyze when we were kids, Odinn was friends with my sister. I had fun with the people I met at the WoW Gatherings I arrange every time I go to KL.

Be polite. You don't have to like people but just be polite. And for goodness sake, don't get this thread lock.


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post Jun 5 2008, 01:31 PM

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Hi sets84 you hot chiq! Hahahahaha!
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post Jun 6 2008, 12:54 PM

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Got :
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Want :
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Anyway, so totally derailed. Meet up for discussion at the Frames tomorrow night. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/686954

BTW, we're going DUTCH! So bring your wallets.
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post Jun 10 2008, 05:21 AM

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Do you guys notice how any thread is derailed by Kings83 into a tanking advice thread and still sometimes facing the same issues? wink.gif
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post Jun 10 2008, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Jun 10 2008, 12:21 PM)
lakers lost game 2 of the nba playoff finals after making a magnificient comeback to 2 points difference from 26 down against celtics...
im so depressed....
euro cup is overrated
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I was informed by my German colleagues to finish the meetings on Thursday early so that we can drive out of Dresden and get to Erfurt in time to watch the Germans play.

Very strict instructions. >.<
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post Jun 12 2008, 12:37 AM

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Hmm...18 pages.

Ah well. Heading to a medieval tavern for dinner tonite. Will post pictures.

(Total Derailment). HAha!
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post Jun 17 2008, 02:24 PM

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Didn't Kurei say that he's now DPS warrior and no longer prot?

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