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post Apr 1 2009, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Apr 1 2009, 07:47 PM)
Mind to explain or where I should refer this information.
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I lazy, try to put up a very short one.
before the ex date, register will determine the rights belong to which interest party (shareholder). On the ex date, the rights already determined, then market have to response by deducting theoretical benefit of rights from the share price. So when the rights will be issue and so on might not be important anymore, except the rights share might flood the market once the whole process completed.
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post Apr 2 2009, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Apr 2 2009, 08:24 AM)
Now I understand the issue right had no meaning as it do not generate any profit to share holder. Check my calculation below

Main share    4.20 1000 4200
Issue Right    2.74 450 1233
After Pro-rate 3.75 1450 5433
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The main purpose of rights is to strengthen the company's capital base; if that put the company at better competing position or improve earning capability, I don't mind. After all, company gain, shareholders gain, that's chicken & egg issue. Just please don't repeat the stupid things like buying BII or MCB again, please... rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 4 2009, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 4 2009, 01:01 PM)
That reminds of a local story of a Chinese family.

Those days when a Chinese has 4 children, commonly when the children grow and they would contribute partly back and support the family in return .

But today or in future , mostly changed. My brother in law has to send the children to U. Still finance them with cars when they come out to work. Contribute a lot when they buy houses. And now still giving out when they have grand children.

So right issue is something a burden ( like having more children ), but the earnings of parents ( or Maybank) remains almost the same. Maybank still has to look after the cashflow of their Indo banks , right. Mostly outflows than inflows.

More of a liability than asset .

Correct me if I am wrong.
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Hope one day the son grow up and support the parents. Actually some change already made inside the bank, I would say that's definitely better than the days under the previous CEO, though he had left some baggage (quite some) for the current CEO to clear, the current management actually performing all right. Long term wise I think that's still all right. Personal opinion only...
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post Apr 7 2009, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(A2Z2U @ Apr 7 2009, 12:24 PM)
Guys, any idea why I haven't received the subscription form until now? I hold a direct account, so the form should be posted to me.
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They only send out today... you think our postman got so efficient meh? Be patient...
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post Apr 7 2009, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ Apr 7 2009, 03:53 PM)
Hmm..3.82..52 weeks low at 3.7...good buy or not ? can it double in 2 years ?
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The 52 wks low didn't dilute the rights one, real one might be even lower. Buy or not base on personal judgment & risk appetite. I bought.


Added on April 7, 2009, 4:42 pm
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 7 2009, 01:44 PM)
If send by Emails, do not need postman, maybe postmaster.

Still can sell without form, just call your stock broker.
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If can send by e-mail better, in Singapore can subscribe rights using atm, much hassle free...

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post Apr 7 2009, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Apr 7 2009, 11:38 PM)
I have 2000 units of Maybank, so by right I am entitled for the 900 units right offer...can I contact my trader to buy the 900 at 2.74 and sell at the market rate ? I don't mind not averaging down my purchase price cause I am keeping this for the long term and I should be able to earn about 1k from the rights offer.
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Guess you can do that, but you are selling your mother share before the rights exercise completed...
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post Apr 8 2009, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Apr 7 2009, 11:56 PM)
May I know what is this Maybank-OR . Am I suppose to use this counter instead for the 900 rights offer?

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...arly-trade.html
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That's the rights you entitled, once you sold that then you cannot exercise your rights anymore.


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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Apr 8 2009, 04:24 AM)
dun know wat u all talking bout rclxub.gif just play stock not long ago rclxub.gif
but i wanted to know that is that this OR have limited period?
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4) The Rights cease quotation : [ 14 April 2009 ]

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post Apr 8 2009, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Apr 8 2009, 06:44 AM)
Maybank-OR is the rights that are traded in the open market. If you were holding maybank shares prior to this, you would have the rights to buy the rights issue. If you did't want to buy the rights issue, you can try to sell your rights issue on the open market. The selling/trading of the rights issue is the Maybank-OR. wink.gif
Yup. 1 week trading period. Those that hold maybank shares and have the rights to buy the rights issue would have 3 choices:
1) Take up the rights
2) Sell the rights in the open market (that means sell the Maybank-OR on the open market)
3) Don't take up the rights (which is NOT recommended!)

Edit : @htt - wah! You also wake up so early aaa..... me sooooo sleepy.....  sleep.gif
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I have no choice mah, I always want to sleep until wake up naturally biggrin.gif
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post Apr 8 2009, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Apr 8 2009, 08:20 AM)
Will place the queue to sell the 900 units at the Maybank-OR to lock it down... smile.gif
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Yes, but check your account to be double safe tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2009, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Apr 8 2009, 08:50 AM)
Ex-date of right issue is 31 March...

1k purchased long time back and another 1k was purchased on 30-Mar-2009. Should be entitled right ?
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Theoretically yes.
Anyone got the form liao?
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post Apr 11 2009, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(A2Z2U @ Apr 10 2009, 11:59 PM)
Am I the only one who haven't received subcription form until now?  sweat.gif
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I receive it today.
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post Apr 14 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(adamin @ Apr 14 2009, 11:04 PM)
Hi. i bought 2 units of Maybank-OR last week and it stop trading today. Can anyone enlighten me if i can still convert these 2 units to the Maybank share ? When is the last day for me to convert these ? Thank you
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Yes, you can. The money need to reach them by 21st April (5.00pm if not mistaken).
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post May 22 2009, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ May 21 2009, 10:38 PM)
ok, their report is out... when will they going to pay interim?
wait so long oledi mad.gif
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Already said no interim last Q, final need to wait until next Q, that one follow dividend policy.
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post May 26 2009, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 23 2009, 10:12 AM)
Maybank's impairment write off is estimated to be about 700m to 800m in this Q. NPL provision could be also higher depending on the economy.

Maybank also has  hgher borrowings ( higher interest expense compared to before )

And their foreign banks do not contribute much to their profits.

Next Q results could be ugly.

Correct me if i am wrong.
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I think Maybank Singapore contributed to about one quarter of their profit or so (Maybank Singapore very small only) tongue.gif The rest hmm.gif


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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 22 2009, 09:46 PM)
So, how long need to wait ? Another Q (3months) ?
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1Q more, final should have some, if they afloat after the impairment.

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Hold on tight... for me only tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 11 2009, 11:52 PM)
The rumour is about BNM wants to change the Maybank director board, something to do with BII acquisition? Previously BNM did block the deal, but eventually went through.

Don't know how true it is.
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Straits Time reported that yesterday, should be quite true...
Made bank loss millions of RM, only resign/ retire, I oso want... who has that kind of lubang for me?
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post Aug 20 2009, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 20 2009, 06:55 AM)
Any idea whether it is good or bad ?
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We can only expect for less bad... tongue.gif
Heads also rolled liao, there shouldn't be without reasons, right tongue.gif
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Aug 25 2009, 08:00 PM)
blush.gif  hehehehe

I don't think there will be too many SELL calls, mainly because it is just a one-off thing. Granted the value has dropped but there is still value in the group. As long as they can prove to their investors that the BII acquisition added some future value to the group.
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Think the event might not be one off, but should be annually, if next FYE the economy recover liao, then might don't have any impairment.
The operating result still inline with most of the banks, just the impairment is a bit higher than my expectation.
I think I still hold, if really collapse in price, I buy tongue.gif
I like the method they disclose the impairment calculation, at least a bit improvement of corporate governance... tongue.gif
But don't know they finish sacking those 'smart over their head' directors or not, maybe they should disclose also tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 25 2009, 11:52 PM)
Money raised from the right issues won't affect profit or loss.

Just money raised could potential save some interest incurred on borrowing side.
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Also to boost up some of the ratios required by statutory... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 25 2009, 11:57 PM)
No one is paying attention to the Bad loans ?

Other Banks are reporting some dropping on bad loans, Maybank is reporting much more.

Maybe its size justifies more bad loans hmm.gif
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Part of it, also because that's not as big as impairment loss. Bad loan grow with acquisition, so still not that bad, and over provision can always written back tongue.gif

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