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tomcatf14
post Aug 28 2009, 02:45 PM

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I'm a newbie and I bought it at 0.84. Should I panic now? Or just wait for the share to go up? I'm not taking the rights
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post Aug 28 2009, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 02:54 PM)
You must either take up the right or sell the right after it list its OR. If not you loss your right and opportunity, which is not a good idea. Not exercising your right or sell your right, means you throw money away only.

Right issue at Rm0.50 which you can buy it at Rm0.50 compared to market price of Rm0.6x, there is no reason why not take up.

You can sell now at RM0.6x and buy it at RM0.50, still free up some cash.
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Today is the last day to take up the right..Can I still make it?
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post Aug 28 2009, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 03:02 PM)
No, today just means ex-right, means today buyer doesn't entitle for the right issue.

You already entitled the right issue and the right (OR) will be commence listing on 3rd Sept (for a week or so), by then you can sell it if you not intend to exercise the right. The right issue exercise dateline should be after 2 weeks time, not now.
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Sorry....I don't really understand this...This is my 1st time encountering right issues. I bought it at 0.84 and the current price is 0.69...This mean I can let go anytime before 3rd Sept and buy at 0.50?
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post Aug 28 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 03:17 PM)
The above strike part is wrong. You can let go now still entitle the right issue.

Yes.

Now you have Gpacket and Gpacket-OR (which is going to be listed on 3rd Sept)

Option you have

1. Let go current Gpacket share at RM0.6x now, then exercise the right issue at Rm0.50 afterward

2. Keep the current Gpacket share, but sell the Gpacket-OR after it listed. (probably around worth about 10 cents+ based on current mothershare price)
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I think I'm more comfortable with option 2. And wait for the current Gpacket price to go up? I am really very new to rights and warrant...so don't really want to rock the boat so much. Are we expecting the Gpacket price to go back up to 0.80++ soon?
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post Aug 28 2009, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 03:35 PM)
Nobody can know whether it can go back to 80 cents or not or even higher. It depended on overall market condition and individual company issue.

But if you managed to sell the Gpacket-OR after 3rd September (which is given you free one), let say 10 cents, you effective origin cost of the Gpacket share is 0.84-0.10= 0.74

So if Gpacket-OR is traded at RM0.20, and you managed to sell it, then you cost is only 0.64.
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Do I get the Gpacket-OR automatically w/o doing/paying anything?

*I think I really need to get an stock market investment book from Borders later* Any to recommend?

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post Aug 28 2009, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 03:47 PM)
Yes, affirmative 100.1%.  biggrin.gif

But Gpacket-OR will only listed from 3rd Sept to 10 Sept, after that it will cease listing. So want to sell must within the 1 week time.
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How do I know if I already got the Gpacket-OR? It will automatically appear in my OSK account? When will I be able to get the Gpacket-OR? I have 2800 units of Gpacket, how many Gpacket-OR I will get?

I google some info on rights issue over here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_issue

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Basic example

An investor: Mr. A had 100 shares of company X at a total investment of $40,000, assuming he purchased the shares at $400 per share.

Assuming a 1:1 rights issue at an offer price of $200, Mr. A will have the option to subscribe to additional 100 shares of the company at the offer price. Now, if he exercises his option, he would have to pay an additional $20,000 in order to acquire the shares, thus effectively bringing his average cost of acquisition for the 200 shares to $300 per share ((40,000+20,000)/200=300). Although the price on the stock markets should reflect a new price of $300 (see below), the investor is actually not making any profit nor any loss.

The company: Company X has 100 million outstanding shares. The share price currently quoted on the stock exchanges is $400 thus the market capitalization of the stock would be $40 billion (outstanding shares times share price).

If all the shareholders of the company choose to exercise their stock option, the company's outstanding shares would increase to 200 million. The market capitalization of the stock would increase to $60 billion (previous market capitalization + cash received from owners of rights converting their rights to shares), implying a share price of $300 ($60 billion / 200 million shares). If the company were to do nothing with the raised money, its Earnings per share (EPS) would be reduced by half. However, if the equity raised by the company is reinvested (e.g. to acquire another company), the EPS may be impacted depending upon the outcome of the reinvestment.

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post Aug 28 2009, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 04:02 PM)
You will have 1400 Gpacket-OR which you can sell, but reconfirm with your OSK broker first so that it is confirmed the OR has been credited into your CDS to avoid potential mistake.

Or

You don't sell the OR but subscribe the right issue at RM0.50 per share or in your case Rm0.50 x 1400 by paying Rm700 which you will be given a new 1400 Gpacket share + free 1400 Gpacket new warrant. (Gpacket-WA which will be listed afterward the right issue exercise completed.)
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I think my broker don't even know what I'm saying. He just said that I need to apply to get the right issue which I didn't and today is the last day. What should I ask him? To make the picture clear, I did not nothing on this share beside buying Gpacket 2 weeks back.
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post Aug 28 2009, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Aug 28 2009, 04:39 PM)
You can see the OR shares in the OSK account. Click equities -> Account info. In the new window, select shares at hand.

I think you will only be able to see the shares a day after 03-Sep.
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Thanks..Let me get this right again..I don't have to apply/purchase for the OR, right? It will appear automatically or given automatically to me after 03-sept?
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post Aug 28 2009, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 05:10 PM)
This is definitely wrong.
Yes and yes, but do check your CDS account before you sell (the OR), just to reconfirm.
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What is CDS account? and what to check? I only have OSK online trading account.

*I'm really sorry to be a pain...I'm still very new to stock market jargon...I'm a pure IT man so I'm good in IT jargon but noob in stock jargon*

You have any idea how much 1400 units of Gpacket-OR worth?

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post Aug 28 2009, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 05:20 PM)
CDS account is the account that holds your share,n just like bank saving account. If don't have a clue, just call the broker ask them is there any Gpacket-OR has been credited into your account for you to sell on 3rd. (the account that holds your previous Gpacket share)

1400 -OR worth only will be known after 3rd Sept, after it listed.
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Ok..I have checked my CDS account and still does not see the Gpacket-OR yet.....

GregPG01 said that I could only see it after 3rd September. Should I call my broker to confirm this?

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post Aug 28 2009, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 28 2009, 06:02 PM)
Yup, Gpacket-OR only will be 'born' on 3rd Sept.  biggrin.gif

That's why previously I stated to call the broker for reconfirm (it should be there on 3rd, just to reconfirm) if you want to sell it. As if there is some mistake (who knows), selling something you doesn't own is a serious offend in stock market trading.
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I just called my broker and said technically I should get the -OR on 2nd Sept. Asked me to recheck with him on 2nd.
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post Sep 1 2009, 09:35 AM

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Hi,

Do I still get the -OR if I sell my Gpacket share now?
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post Sep 3 2009, 11:38 AM

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Gpacket-OR is out but still no my OSK account...However, the broker has confirmed that the -OR is in my account now.
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post Sep 3 2009, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 3 2009, 12:27 PM)
goreng goreng.
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Goreng = keep or sell?


Added on September 3, 2009, 3:19 pmLepas the OR at .25

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post Sep 3 2009, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(klmc @ Sep 3 2009, 04:33 PM)
realli pening la - trading through public bank sharelink - how can so long still no phone call , no forms and the OR already being traded ?

even though the OR is at 25 cent - its still a loss isn't it from 2 weeks back when the price was above 80 cents?
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Yes..i'm still losing..My buying price was .84...Hopefully the mother price will go up ler....I'm still losing a bit only after contra the -OR that I've sold off
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post Sep 5 2009, 03:54 PM

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Looking at 90 cents tongue.gif
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post Sep 8 2009, 11:58 AM

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I just received the form yesterday!!!
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(klmc @ Sep 8 2009, 12:02 PM)
better rush it ... closing date is ?17th ?
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I've sold off my -OR on the 1st day d
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post Oct 8 2009, 03:03 PM

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oh shit...i lepas too early...this morning i lepas the Mother at .76 sad.gif
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post Oct 8 2009, 03:08 PM

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Gpacket-WA is converted from Gpacket-OR if we didn't sell the OR previously?

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