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TheTechie
post Nov 12 2009, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Talbac @ Nov 12 2009, 01:33 PM)
to be honest, streamyx has built-up so much dissatisfied users that it is not difficult to get those users to switch, hence the results of late. streamyx, it can hardly compete on current or future grounds. right now, streamyx is clogged and people just switch to WiMax for faster connection.

true, fiber connect is the best broadband connection at current technology. however, it is so costly to replace copper with fiber, it is not economical to laydown the fiber to all connection points without guaranteed users. say for every 3 connection points, only 1 sign up for fiber broadband, hence making the laydown cost extremely high. however, fiber broadband will still find its place in corporate offices, etc. houses are increasingly becoming high-rises, and for all i know, fiber are extremely expensive and no apartment or condos (not sure about super-condos) have fibers in place at unit (even new buildings do not have fiber) - meaning, if you stay in a high-rise, you are unlikely to get fiber broadband connection in the foreseeable future. Unlike WiMax, they can provide decent connection at a lower cost regardless of location so long it is in their 'radius'. Once the traffic is near capacity, P1 will simple build a new transmittion tower in the outer radius to improve traffic + widen coverage. The plan is so clear that it is almost definite that P1 will dominant the new broadband users. if everything goes as planned, don't be surprised that it will hit 1.76 by end of 2010. 

the green packet management has chosen to exercised the private placements at 1.39, which if it is delayed for another day or two would become 1.45. so this would imply the management value the share at more than 1.45, or else they would not raise their stakes if they do not think they can get more out of their investments. i say 1.43 can buy, the prices may fluatuate a bit, but it is unlikely to go below 1.4 again.
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1) All it takes is for TM to offer cheaper broadband/high bandwidth maintaining the same price and GP stock could plunge.
2) I am a dissatisfied P1 customer. As much as I dislike TM, $ vs Bandwidth, TM is still the best, unfortunately.
3) 100% sure that GP will need more $ to spend on CAPEX/OPEX, I don't know when the return is going to be.
4) TM is backed by Gov, in spending and in giving them monopoly status.
5) That radius thing, assuming they need to rent and maintain the base station @ RM 5K/month, you need to have 100 customers within the radius to cover the CAPEX. Not including marketing cost, customer care, sales commission etc. How many base station they have? How many subscribers they have?
6) Do a research on "LTE". It is a mobile technology that is better than WiMax, Telco like Maxis and DiGi would probably eat these WiMax players alive. DiGi have 2K employees, consistent revenue and giving out dividends, even Axiata is not bad, GP?

If there is a put warrant for this counter, I definitely put all my $ in.
TheTechie
post Nov 13 2009, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Investing11111 @ Nov 12 2009, 11:56 PM)
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1) All it takes is for TM to offer cheaper broadband/high bandwidth maintaining the same price and GP stock could plunge.
All it takes for TM to totally go bust after losing majority 90% usage of telephone line depending on their streamyx to make money is for wimax to make smaller portable new trendy super wireless connection like wiggy.. I think .

2) I am a dissatisfied P1 customer. As much as I dislike TM, $ vs Bandwidth, TM is still the best, unfortunately.
I am so pissed of calling streamyx for years now I am glad wimax came to life and more competition comin in to fire up the standard !

3) 100% sure that GP will need more $ to spend on CAPEX/OPEX, I don't know when the return is going to be.
It take years to stable and reap reward , every business the same . There is no sky rocket money fallin from sky .

4) TM is backed by Gov, in spending and in giving them monopoly status.
How long can they be spoon fed ? Who is it in the goverment thats supporting them ? Why are people in goverment supporting them ? For "rasuah" ? Cari makan ? How in a way is goverment supporting them? Giving them all our tax money to survive on ? What are they profiting from ? Telephone.. Line????

5) That radius thing, assuming they need to rent and maintain the base station @ RM 5K/month, you need to have 100 customers within the radius to cover the CAPEX. Not including marketing cost, customer care, sales commission etc. How many base station they have? How many subscribers they have?
This I do not have a statistic for it but I know people demand crave and beg for internet connection like mad tru out Malaysia ...as long as there is demand . Every business has its own expenses to bear.


Sold off my Public Bank and TOPGLOV stock , reap nice rewards from these stock , bought them when they were VERY VERY VERY undervalued during recession DOUBLED~. Now with more cash , I am going to maximise my money in YTLE and Gpacket for buy-and-hold long term .
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1) The only reason was not in the wireless technology was because of Celcom. Now that they are fully divorced, I won't be surprise if TM come out with wireless broadband technology riding on their CDMA spectrum. As for their fix line business, it might be declining in the consumer segment but businesses will still subscribe to it. People will want to carry a fix line number for their general line and fax, TM is making RM 45/line not inclusive of usage.

2) If talk about investment, it's fundamental. As trendy, as creative their advertisement is, all these hype will not sustain the value of the stock. The fact I want to invest in this company for long term, I look at the returns. Why should I pay so much for a company that make lost and they are in a business of low margin and fierce competition?

3) GP will reap reward later and longer. When they started the WiMax operation, it was at the peak of the economy, everything was expensive then. If you ask me, YTL is coming it at the right time, they saw the mistakes GP did and partnerships are done at the right time. Business is about timing, there is always a price to pay as a pioneer, it is a good reward if you make a great head start so that the competitors cannot catch up, however with YTL's RM 2.5 b, GP is just a small fry.

4) Gov is also support GP, if not why just restrict to 4 Wimax license, why not make it 40 license? Because the investment is big, hence the market need to be protected. TM is not fully monopolize fixed line market, they have competition from Maxis and DiGi too. In some condominiums and areas, you can't get TM fix line or streamyx.

5) Demand for broadband is there, because our penetration is low. However, you also need to look at options you can get. Today we have HSDPA, DSL, FTTH and later on we have LTE. Technology and potential is one thing, competition is another. If you have friends who work as Engineer for these kind of wireless technology, you can ask them how much does it cost to maintain a site. In order for GP to make money, they can't be charging too low, with the current rate they charge, they will continue to make loss for a long long time.

If you bought such good bluechips like PBBbank and TOPGLOV, you should be happy with the dividends pay out. I have more beliefs that YTLE can make it, GP, I have some reservations until they switch their strategy, they should not fight head to head with TM, this will kill their own margin. They might win a battle but lose the war. They should find a niche instead. Their competitor is not just streamyx, DiGi, Celcom, Maxis and YTLE is on the way. Anyway, good luck in your venture smile.gif
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post Nov 13 2009, 12:36 PM

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If you fight with fixed line broadband, you talk about speed. If you fight with wireless you talk about coverage. GP is fighting Streamyx in price but not fighting hard enough to capture mobility.

If you are GP subscriber you will notice that not everywhere you can go online with your Wiggy, but almost everywhere you can go online with Maxis/Celcom.

If you have registered with GP service and you cancel the service within the trial period, they promise to return you $ within 1 month. In actual fact, it will take 3 months at least. Talk about cash flow problem....

 

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