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post May 26 2008, 06:44 PM, updated 18y ago

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Just get my 450d and kit-lens month ago~
hope to get more C&C from all sifu smile.gif

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post May 26 2008, 06:51 PM

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post May 26 2008, 06:54 PM

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1st photo WB a bit out I think.
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post May 26 2008, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(markchan @ May 26 2008, 06:51 PM)
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1st photo WB a bit out I think.


i also thinking should i post this pic anot~
hmm =/
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post May 26 2008, 07:15 PM

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cute gal, cute tiger tooth, btw two pics its definately not enough lar
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post May 26 2008, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(pinku @ May 26 2008, 06:44 PM)
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Just get my 450d and kit-lens month ago~
hope to get more C&C from all sifu  smile.gif
She is cute.... wub.gif

Is it Pavillion?
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post May 26 2008, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(AHBOON @ May 26 2008, 07:15 PM)
cute gal, cute tiger tooth, btw two pics its definately not enough lar
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haha, i still got some in my comp, but haven add watermark~

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She is cute.... 

Is it Pavillion?


is Pavillion, =)
everybody she is cute =X
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post May 26 2008, 08:11 PM

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These dress also suite her cute cute innocent looks... wub.gif
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post May 26 2008, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ May 26 2008, 08:11 PM)
These dress also suite her cute cute innocent looks...  wub.gif
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haha, i choose it for her =)
normally i do makeup and design for friends~
but dunno will got chance this praise from mightly TheVoIP~ haha~
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post May 26 2008, 08:23 PM

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wah very nice! very cute!
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post May 26 2008, 09:02 PM

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sooooooooooooo kawaii ...................model so cute. wub.gif
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post May 26 2008, 09:07 PM

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The model i admit is very cute. But subject looks OOF, lack of sharpness wink.gif
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post May 26 2008, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(ewin @ May 26 2008, 08:23 PM)
wah very nice! very cute!
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sooooooooooooo kawaii ...................model so cute. 


Thanks~ tongue.gif

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The model i admit is very cute. But subject looks OOF, lack of sharpness 


any skill can teach me ar? unsure.gif
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post May 26 2008, 09:18 PM

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teach ar....
ajak us for photoshoot lor, hehe smile.gif with "可爱的小睛"
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post May 26 2008, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(FESEM @ May 26 2008, 09:18 PM)
teach ar....
ajak us for photoshoot lor, hehe smile.gif with "可爱的小睛"
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underage girl la wei~
hahaha~!

Dream girl =X saw her in my dream~
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post May 27 2008, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ May 26 2008, 09:07 PM)
The model i admit is very cute. But subject looks OOF, lack of sharpness wink.gif
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apparently it reached post #12 to only see someone commented this...... sad.gif others are like who is it la blablablablaa.

#1 - the subject is OOF. in fact it looks like the subject was the wall if you consider where the sharp areas of the pic is at. you were not careful at choosing the background either glossy background will reflect so it makes the picture look odd.

Secondly your choice of location, look at the lighting. it's right above her, casting shadows on her features. it doesn't bring out her beauty, end up the light highlights the clothing more but not in a good manner either.

She's also wearing earrings. now it looks like the earring want to come out but stuck, so you could adjust her hair a bit to display the earrings. a properly displayed earring would enhance the picture.


#2 - the background, careless choice of background. too many distractions. you missed out that there's a black colored noticeboard of some sort (along her right cheek, right eye and to hair fringe), in this picture it's distracts from her features. and get her to smile naturally, like #1. smile.gif #2 look like those web-cam "i wannabe cute" kinda smile. arrgghh. totally unnatural.

i mean look at the real MODELS in the world - who smiles like that? (no, not condemning you or your model. but this is something you can learn) really, you look at sifu Shinchan's shot - which of her model actually smiles like that? NONE. only webcam girls do that, and most of them attempt to be CUTE without realizing how odd it could be when they twist their face to awkwardness.


*took more than 10 minutes to write the above, to highlight the areas you can improve. comments like "MODEL LOOKS CUTE" doesn't help one to improve.

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post May 27 2008, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 27 2008, 12:02 AM)
apparently it reached post #12 to only see someone commented this...... sad.gif others are like who is it la blablablablaa.

#1 - the subject is OOF. in fact it looks like the subject was the wall if you consider where the sharp areas of the pic is at. you were not careful at choosing the background either glossy background will reflect so it makes the picture look odd.

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thanks for your comment, i appreciate it.
actually i see over and over, and actually i don't think my picture is nice.
but i need more comment from other sifu, cause i wan to improve myself.

my problem..
this is my first time portrait, so i din realise the lighting for the 1st pic is not suitable, for pic that i took at that place is all failed.
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for the model, hmm, this is her 1st time so called photoshooting~ maybe i give her some training to be better~ =X

shinchan is someone that inspired me to take nice pic~ i gonna do more homework and training~

btw thanks for your comment and your 10 minutes~ smile.gif

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post May 27 2008, 03:11 AM

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you can consider using flash + diffuser. smile.gif

in cases like this, you can also light from outside to highlight the features of your subject.

as a photographer, you need to observe your surrounding and learn how to
a) make it work for you instead of against you
b) counter whatever that cannot be worked around. (eg flash)

QUOTE(pinku @ May 27 2008, 03:06 AM)
btw thanks for your comment and your 10 minutes~ smile.gif


more than that la but from my side, i really don't mind spending long time to comment so someone can improve. smile.gif


Added on May 27, 2008, 3:17 amI'm going to use the pictures in this gallery as example in reference to what I mentioned.........

a) make it work for you instead of against you
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no flash used. just open the curtain and the light shine in, just nice to light up.

b) counter whatever that cannot be worked around. (eg flash)
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flash used, fill-in purpose.

why? the background was too bright, the camera sensor would get more light from the background than the subject. some more light is from the back, the subjects would surely look dark.

the flash unit was used to light up the subject.

smile.gif

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post May 27 2008, 04:20 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 27 2008, 03:11 AM)
you can consider using flash + diffuser. smile.gif

in cases like this, you can also light from outside to highlight the features of your subject.

as a photographer, you need to observe your surrounding and learn how to
a) make it work for you instead of against you
b) counter whatever that cannot be worked around. (eg flash)
more than that la but from my side, i really don't mind spending long time to comment so someone can improve. smile.gif
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i thinking to get a flash soon, since most of the time i will shoot indoor?
so that mean even outdoor i will need flash too?



i will take note from your comments, really help me to learn more for photography~ *hope so*
i gotta get a flash, to learn more about lighting~


thanks again~ blush.gif
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post May 27 2008, 05:30 AM

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for me the 2nd photo looks ok... this more like daily snapshot than a photoshoot..

goldfries,
i don`t see anything wrong on the 2nd photo... she is just using her strength which is cute... i feel quite cute seeing her having this smile compare to the first one...
actually the 2 photo that you show not a good example.. it just show out the mistake you done on the photo which for me .. more worst than what pinku and her model done on the 2nd photo...
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post May 27 2008, 08:06 AM

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so this is how it goes.. when the subject is a pretty girl.. everyone goes wild..

back to photography..

1) subject is OOF, and the shiny wall gives out reflection.. which looks distractive.. White balance is out too, but that depends on personal preference, in case u like warm tones.

2) background very distractive, look at the black thing beside her cheek. And it seems like subject not really in focus, means not really sharp. U using widest aperture ?


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post May 27 2008, 08:23 AM

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hmm, i think pinku did a great job in skin color. hehe

like it very much, so fair~~~ smile.gif

sharpness/background/etc can improve later on.
still a good capture, smile.gif
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For this angle of view. It only remind me of one thing, 35L will do the job best. The only argument is either to FF the prime or crop factor... hmm.gif
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post May 27 2008, 09:36 AM

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move ur legs and zoom
nothing to do with fixed focal length
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post May 27 2008, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ May 27 2008, 09:36 AM)
move ur legs and zoom
nothing to do with fixed focal length
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I am thinking of capturing some environemt with wider angle + blur the background with f1.4 ma... tongue.gif

I had just tested the 35L. Seems like Canon had put some bokeh formular from 85L into it. Too bad the lense wide open performance is not as sharp as 85L sweat.gif

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wide angle doesnt need bokeh la
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post May 27 2008, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ May 27 2008, 10:42 AM)
wide angle doesnt need bokeh la
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Depends on taste la... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(snowmei @ May 27 2008, 05:30 AM)
goldfries,
i don`t see anything wrong on the 2nd photo... she is just using her strength which is cute... i feel quite cute seeing her having this smile compare to the first one...


subjective. i'm just stating my POV. some people like it, others don't.

QUOTE(snowmei @ May 27 2008, 05:30 AM)
actually the 2 photo that you show not a good example.. it just show out the mistake you done on the photo which for me .. more worst than what pinku and her model done on the 2nd photo...


it's ok. smile.gif i'm just highlighting that my points about using light / flash to fill-in to avoid subject being dark due to the extremely bright background.

you may criticize my pictures on my thread instead btw, whether it's better or worse is subjective. others like it, some find it to be grave mistake. biggrin.gif POV always helps understand what others think.

thanks.

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QUOTE(snowmei @ May 27 2008, 05:30 AM)
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actually the 2 photo that you show not a good example.. it just show out the mistake you done on the photo which for me .. more worst than what pinku and her model done on the 2nd photo...
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post May 28 2008, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(snowmei @ May 27 2008, 05:30 AM)
for me the 2nd photo looks ok... this more like daily snapshot than a photoshoot..

goldfries,
i don`t see anything wrong on the 2nd photo... she is just using her strength which is cute... i feel quite cute seeing her having this smile compare to the first one...
actually the 2 photo that you show not a good example.. it just show out the mistake you done on the photo which for me .. more worst than what pinku and her model done on the 2nd photo...
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Kindly explain in what terms it gets worse? Well i can see goldfries is showing a good example of a well lighted subject.
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very cute model biggrin.gif why you only took 2 photos? with such a nice model around you should be able to practice more and get better soon wink.gif
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My little comment biggrin.gif

#1 looks blur / OOF
#2 seems like abit soft on the face part... not sharp enough IMO.

Anything can be improved , hope to see more smile.gif

Btw, congrats on your new 450D
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post May 29 2008, 06:56 PM

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To everybody,
i get alot of idea from you guys and thanks to everybody that leave comment..

most of my prob is OOF, so any solution for OOF?

and i found out lighting is really important for photography, i gonna learn more.. give me sometimes to learn and i gonna take more girl pic,
that time give me more C&C please ~ cool2.gif
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hmm...
due to low light and a small apperture value cant let you stop at faster shuter speed... you need to use lower shutter speed so it will create a "blur" photo.

how to solve oof prob ? depends on you...

Not only shot girls ma... try landscape and others biggrin.gif
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ehh. just learn to focus correctly. biggrin.gif set the focus point to your subject.

i don't think OOF is a problem confined to you, all of us face it. smile.gif you can snap multiple shots of the same composition.

good try anyway, keep it up.
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QUOTE(168257061 @ May 29 2008, 07:35 PM)
hmm...
due to low light and a small apperture value cant let you stop at faster shuter speed... you need to use lower shutter speed so it will create a "blur" photo.

how to solve oof prob ? depends on you...

Not only shot girls ma... try landscape and others biggrin.gif
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haha, low shutter speed? i gonna try next time~
landscape, i gonna try when i at cherating =)

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ehh. just learn to focus correctly.  set the focus point to your subject.

i don't think OOF is a problem confined to you, all of us face it.  you can snap multiple shots of the same composition.

good try anyway, keep it up.


sure i will =) later on i will post up the others from the same girl, and u all can comment more for me~
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thank btw~
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QUOTE(pinku @ May 30 2008, 02:08 PM)
haha, low shutter speed? i gonna try next time~
landscape, i gonna try when i at cherating =)
sure i will =) later on i will post up the others from the same girl, and u all can comment more for me~
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aiks...seems like you missunderstanding or I misleading you... laugh.gif
Depends on what situation , when shooting portrait... high shutter speed is better because you can capture the image faster ...
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cute girl! wub.gif
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Another suggestion for begineers is to use Appeture priority. So u no need to have worries on the shutter speed and concern more to the appeture. Using a high F lens (like F1.8, or F2.8) should make ur subject look alot sharper with strong bokeh backgrounds.

 

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