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Just get my 450d and kit-lens month ago~
hope to get more C&C from all sifu
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Pinku l My Gallery, Newbie need C&C
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sapa tu
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1st photo WB a bit out I think.
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cute gal, cute tiger tooth, btw two pics its definately not enough lar
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QUOTE(pinku @ May 26 2008, 06:44 PM) ![]() Just get my 450d and kit-lens month ago~ hope to get more C&C from all sifu Is it Pavillion? |
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These dress also suite her cute cute innocent looks...
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wah very nice! very cute!
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May 26 2008, 09:02 PM
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sooooooooooooo kawaii ...................model so cute.
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The model i admit is very cute. But subject looks OOF, lack of sharpness
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teach ar....
ajak us for photoshoot lor, hehe |
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May 26 2008, 10:28 PM
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May 27 2008, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ May 26 2008, 09:07 PM) apparently it reached post #12 to only see someone commented this...... #1 - the subject is OOF. in fact it looks like the subject was the wall if you consider where the sharp areas of the pic is at. you were not careful at choosing the background either glossy background will reflect so it makes the picture look odd. Secondly your choice of location, look at the lighting. it's right above her, casting shadows on her features. it doesn't bring out her beauty, end up the light highlights the clothing more but not in a good manner either. She's also wearing earrings. now it looks like the earring want to come out but stuck, so you could adjust her hair a bit to display the earrings. a properly displayed earring would enhance the picture. #2 - the background, careless choice of background. too many distractions. you missed out that there's a black colored noticeboard of some sort (along her right cheek, right eye and to hair fringe), in this picture it's distracts from her features. and get her to smile naturally, like #1. i mean look at the real MODELS in the world - who smiles like that? (no, not condemning you or your model. but this is something you can learn) really, you look at sifu Shinchan's shot - which of her model actually smiles like that? NONE. only webcam girls do that, and most of them attempt to be CUTE without realizing how odd it could be when they twist their face to awkwardness. *took more than 10 minutes to write the above, to highlight the areas you can improve. comments like "MODEL LOOKS CUTE" doesn't help one to improve. This post has been edited by goldfries: May 27 2008, 12:03 AM |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 27 2008, 12:02 AM) apparently it reached post #12 to only see someone commented this...... thanks for your comment, i appreciate it.#1 - the subject is OOF. in fact it looks like the subject was the wall if you consider where the sharp areas of the pic is at. you were not careful at choosing the background either glossy background will reflect so it makes the picture look odd. actually i see over and over, and actually i don't think my picture is nice. but i need more comment from other sifu, cause i wan to improve myself. my problem.. this is my first time portrait, so i din realise the lighting for the 1st pic is not suitable, for pic that i took at that place is all failed. =/ for the model, hmm, this is her 1st time so called photoshooting~ maybe i give her some training to be better~ =X shinchan is someone that inspired me to take nice pic~ i gonna do more homework and training~ btw thanks for your comment and your 10 minutes~ This post has been edited by pinku: May 27 2008, 03:09 AM |
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May 27 2008, 03:11 AM
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you can consider using flash + diffuser.
in cases like this, you can also light from outside to highlight the features of your subject. as a photographer, you need to observe your surrounding and learn how to a) make it work for you instead of against you b) counter whatever that cannot be worked around. (eg flash) QUOTE(pinku @ May 27 2008, 03:06 AM) btw thanks for your comment and your 10 minutes~ more than that la but from my side, i really don't mind spending long time to comment so someone can improve. Added on May 27, 2008, 3:17 amI'm going to use the pictures in this gallery as example in reference to what I mentioned......... a) make it work for you instead of against you ![]() no flash used. just open the curtain and the light shine in, just nice to light up. b) counter whatever that cannot be worked around. (eg flash) ![]() flash used, fill-in purpose. why? the background was too bright, the camera sensor would get more light from the background than the subject. some more light is from the back, the subjects would surely look dark. the flash unit was used to light up the subject. This post has been edited by goldfries: May 27 2008, 03:39 AM |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 27 2008, 03:11 AM) you can consider using flash + diffuser. i thinking to get a flash soon, since most of the time i will shoot indoor?in cases like this, you can also light from outside to highlight the features of your subject. as a photographer, you need to observe your surrounding and learn how to a) make it work for you instead of against you b) counter whatever that cannot be worked around. (eg flash) more than that la but from my side, i really don't mind spending long time to comment so someone can improve. so that mean even outdoor i will need flash too? i will take note from your comments, really help me to learn more for photography~ *hope so* i gotta get a flash, to learn more about lighting~ thanks again~ |
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for me the 2nd photo looks ok... this more like daily snapshot than a photoshoot..
goldfries, i don`t see anything wrong on the 2nd photo... she is just using her strength which is cute... i feel quite cute seeing her having this smile compare to the first one... actually the 2 photo that you show not a good example.. it just show out the mistake you done on the photo which for me .. more worst than what pinku and her model done on the 2nd photo... |
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so this is how it goes.. when the subject is a pretty girl.. everyone goes wild..
back to photography.. 1) subject is OOF, and the shiny wall gives out reflection.. which looks distractive.. White balance is out too, but that depends on personal preference, in case u like warm tones. 2) background very distractive, look at the black thing beside her cheek. And it seems like subject not really in focus, means not really sharp. U using widest aperture ? |
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hmm, i think pinku did a great job in skin color. hehe
like it very much, so fair~~~ sharpness/background/etc can improve later on. still a good capture, |
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For this angle of view. It only remind me of one thing, 35L will do the job best. The only argument is either to FF the prime or crop factor...
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move ur legs and zoom
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ May 27 2008, 09:36 AM) I am thinking of capturing some environemt with wider angle + blur the background with f1.4 ma... I had just tested the 35L. Seems like Canon had put some bokeh formular from 85L into it. Too bad the lense wide open performance is not as sharp as 85L This post has been edited by TheVoIP: May 27 2008, 09:39 AM |
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wide angle doesnt need bokeh la
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QUOTE(snowmei @ May 27 2008, 05:30 AM) goldfries, i don`t see anything wrong on the 2nd photo... she is just using her strength which is cute... i feel quite cute seeing her having this smile compare to the first one... subjective. i'm just stating my POV. some people like it, others don't. QUOTE(snowmei @ May 27 2008, 05:30 AM) actually the 2 photo that you show not a good example.. it just show out the mistake you done on the photo which for me .. more worst than what pinku and her model done on the 2nd photo... it's ok. you may criticize my pictures on my thread instead btw, whether it's better or worse is subjective. others like it, some find it to be grave mistake. thanks. This post has been edited by goldfries: May 27 2008, 01:51 PM |
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QUOTE(snowmei @ May 27 2008, 05:30 AM) for me the 2nd photo looks ok... this more like daily snapshot than a photoshoot.. Kindly explain in what terms it gets worse? Well i can see goldfries is showing a good example of a well lighted subject.goldfries, i don`t see anything wrong on the 2nd photo... she is just using her strength which is cute... i feel quite cute seeing her having this smile compare to the first one... actually the 2 photo that you show not a good example.. it just show out the mistake you done on the photo which for me .. more worst than what pinku and her model done on the 2nd photo... |
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very cute model
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#1 looks blur / OOF #2 seems like abit soft on the face part... not sharp enough IMO. Anything can be improved , hope to see more Btw, congrats on your new 450D |
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To everybody,
i get alot of idea from you guys and thanks to everybody that leave comment.. most of my prob is OOF, so any solution for OOF? and i found out lighting is really important for photography, i gonna learn more.. give me sometimes to learn and i gonna take more girl pic, that time give me more C&C please ~ |
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hmm...
due to low light and a small apperture value cant let you stop at faster shuter speed... you need to use lower shutter speed so it will create a "blur" photo. how to solve oof prob ? depends on you... Not only shot girls ma... try landscape and others |
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May 29 2008, 08:41 PM
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ehh. just learn to focus correctly.
i don't think OOF is a problem confined to you, all of us face it. good try anyway, keep it up. |
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QUOTE(168257061 @ May 29 2008, 07:35 PM) hmm... haha, low shutter speed? i gonna try next time~due to low light and a small apperture value cant let you stop at faster shuter speed... you need to use lower shutter speed so it will create a "blur" photo. how to solve oof prob ? depends on you... Not only shot girls ma... try landscape and others landscape, i gonna try when i at cherating =) QUOTE ehh. just learn to focus correctly. set the focus point to your subject. i don't think OOF is a problem confined to you, all of us face it. you can snap multiple shots of the same composition. good try anyway, keep it up. sure i will =) later on i will post up the others from the same girl, and u all can comment more for me~ =) thank btw~ |
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QUOTE(pinku @ May 30 2008, 02:08 PM) haha, low shutter speed? i gonna try next time~ aiks...seems like you missunderstanding or I misleading you... landscape, i gonna try when i at cherating =) sure i will =) later on i will post up the others from the same girl, and u all can comment more for me~ =) thank btw~ Depends on what situation , when shooting portrait... high shutter speed is better because you can capture the image faster ... |
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cute girl!
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Another suggestion for begineers is to use Appeture priority. So u no need to have worries on the shutter speed and concern more to the appeture. Using a high F lens (like F1.8, or F2.8) should make ur subject look alot sharper with strong bokeh backgrounds.
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