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Hi-Fi Sonus Faber, The artisan of sound

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deng8895	Jan 26 2009, 11:30 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
Enthusiast Senior Member 788 posts Joined: Dec 2005	Hi i heard before Sonus faber Concertino 8ohm version (Old version). The owner powered it with full tube. He played Tsai Qin song and wow, the voice seem so real and felt like Tsai Qin was really singing there. The sound so warm, mellow, alot of texture and the presence of bass (upper range) make the sound seem very human. Build quality: One word to summarise it, first class. The design looks very sexy and the wood quality very nice. The front driver i think is made from leather which make it look more classy than other boxy speakers. Referring to Pcwork's pics of his Sonus Faber Concertino (newer version)..wow.. really super beautiful. I wouldn't be surprised if people bought it beacause of its looks rather than its sound. Can fit the category of beautiful wood furniture Limitation: Although the speaker produce really good midrange, i felt the overall sound a bit dark. The detail was not on par with other speaker at the same price level. Sounded quite slow but warm and smooth. I think u can listen the speaker whole day without feeling fatique at the expense of detail. Music instrument also not very realistic as the midrange. I can identify that the instruments played are quite artificial and really nothing to shout for. Bass is abundance but abit muddy at times, the bass seems slow and smooth but no kick as compare to Dynaudio's bass that can really hit u. Maybe if the Sonus Faber is powered by solid state amplifier, will portray different type of sound. Heard some mention about the synergy between Sonus Faber and Krell amplifier. But one thing about the speaker is its very musical, warm and romantic sound signature. It does not have the neutralness of ATC speaker or Dynaudio bass, but the speaker really has its own signature that will suit some people very well. However, i heard the speaker for only about 15-30 min only so i guess i maybe wrong at my judgement, so i am open to comment/feedback from Sonus Faber fan here. If my financial allow, i really wouldnt mind getting one set at second hand price eventhough of some limitations that i mention above because the midrange sound quality really hit me till today. It has become my reference sound and really cant forget it. This post has been edited by deng8895: Jan 26 2009, 11:41 PM
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deng8895	Jan 31 2009, 12:54 AM Return to original view \| Post #2
Enthusiast Senior Member 788 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(hasnul @ Jan 31 2009, 12:43 AM) Hmm....how much for a used Electa Amator II nowadays ? This model seem very rare in Malaysia used market. But a rule of tumb is the price may range from 50% -70% off from retail price. Maybe can get it not locally but guess due to its big size, i think shipping will be a hassle and expensive affair Added on January 31, 2009, 2:39 am QUOTE(hasnul @ Jan 31 2009, 12:43 AM) Hmm....how much for a used Electa Amator II nowadays ? I think grandspy is right, I was hearing to Sonus Faber that is undergoing tube effect. Now it make sense that the sound seem very warm but slow, dark, bass a bit on the muddy side but superior mid. One day really must hear Sonus Faber powered up by solid state amplifier..prefer Krell Btw other speakers that I believe are within the Concertino price level are Dynaudio Audience 52, Epos M12.2 and ATC SCM 7. Maybe Epos is way cheaper than the rest but in UK, Epos is almost same price with ATC SCM7 Some of my opinion comparing Concertino against other loudspeaker at same price range (I think). Feeback and comment really appreciated If my comparison not suitable to be in this Sonus Faber fan thread, kindly pm me and i will removed it » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bass Pls be reminded all speakers are powered by solid state amp except Concertino. Dynaudio has very tight musical bass. I tried Tsai Qin track 8 Ming Ge. Wow nice. But the lower bass has missing detail as the one i heard through headphone AKG 701. Should have a slight air at the end of the bass note. I have tried most speaker at this price level, still can't get the detail of AKG 701 headphone. The Concertino i heard never came close to the bass quality of Dynaudio. Again possibility of tube effect. Epos bass is tight but nothing extraordinary. ATC lack of bass as compare to others, maybe not powered adequately as this speaker is famous for being power hungry. Dynaudio which is also famous for power hungry surprisingly gave a quite good amount of bass when powered up by 125watt amp. Neutralness The Concertino i heard not neutral but instead keep the warmness of Sonus Faber signature. As a comparison, ATC SCM7 has very neutral and flat sound and at times become slight boring. But among the speaker mention above, I believe ATC SCM 7 has the most neutral sound. For Epos, I think i can traced a slight brightness but overall very smooth and quite neutral sound. For Dynaudio, I think the sound very enjoyable, neutral or not... mmm.. really can't decide but a little laid back. Concertino sounded more like HD650 headphone while ATC more like AKG 701 headphone for easier comparison Music instrument and detail I like music instrument produced by Dynaudio speaker. To me its good and seem real enough cos i never heard those Rm100-200k speakers. ATC and Dynaudio have the most detail. Epos came close 2nd. Concertino emphasize at mid, slight lack of detail to me, can't really comment cos maybe due to tube effect. As mention earlier post, Concertino suppose to sound better if not best as compare to other speaker at the same price level Midrange Concertino performed best. Midrange has the warmness, lots of texture, mellow, a bit forward which is necessary to make the vocal seem to stand out and has the weight making the vocal sounded very real. Dynaudio came quite close but lack the warmness, a bit laid back and too smooth to make the midrange seem real. ATC sound don't suit me, too neutral and not exciting. Good as a monitor loudspeaker but not hifi sound. Epos, mmm.. slight brightness making the midrange sound great and exciting while keeping the smooth Epos signature. To be honest, my experience with Epos is very brief. To sum Epos sound is an all rounder and really value for money for its price in Malaysia This post has been edited by deng8895: Jan 31 2009, 03:04 PM
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deng8895	Feb 2 2009, 12:06 AM Return to original view \| Post #3
Enthusiast Senior Member 788 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 31 2009, 02:27 PM) deng.. great review there. couldn't agree more with the statement concertino sounded more like a 650. i personally felt it too. and the midrange description is very accurate imho. i owned Epos ES11 and sonus concertino together at once. and your describtion is exactly how i felt too. some how i do feel that sonus faber does slow in speed. even for person who like me who really love the smoothness and slower speed. but i does feel my concertino is now slightly slower for the bass. and now i am in a situation which i can't help it much with bigger power amp. if i pair it with bigger power amp. it will reveal the problem of lacking bass as the midbass driver of concertino domus is relatively small as compared to other speaker at this price point. and if i upgrade my amp. in the end i might afraid i can't live with it and everyday thinking of upgrade.. which i couldn't afford. lol. lol, better not upgrade la, u already have a very good system... btw u powering up your concertino with your NAD 20 watt amp as per your signature? heard many good review relating to the nad. Yours is the domus series which is 4 ohm rite, enough juice ah? Heard the new sonus faber are harder to drive than the old version which is 8 ohm For now i have decided no more upgrade as i know there will be no end to reach audio nirvana. Always enjoy the music instead of enjoying the equipments.
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deng8895	May 22 2010, 05:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #4
Enthusiast Senior Member 788 posts Joined: Dec 2005	I thought TOY is lower model as compare to Concertino model? I remember Concertino bookshelves is definately lesser than RM5k. Btw our currency has strengthen but prices seem to still increase...
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