Some front-ported speakers aren't in favor of being too close to the rears. I can't immediately tell you if moving them back by 2 feet is a good idea. You might want to experiment moving half a feet at a time. When you do, give yourself time to listen to a variety of songs and see if you like the new change. You can also try moving your listening position back or forth a little. 5 feet can be ok for some and not others. Again, your room/hall decides that

Yes, it takes a lot of time and patience but good things come to those who wait

Hope to hear back from you on your quest

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Added on April 13, 2009, 11:32 amOh, and I wouldn't worry too much about the granite slab. I personally do not think it has any (very little if any) influence over what you're trying to achieve.

Last but not least, I hope you're not trying to replicate the bass from your car's woofer on your Sonus

This post has been edited by etteoh: Apr 13 2009, 11:32 AM

Cool...I thought it was one of those "goyang-kepala" kind of sub You can't blame me, I see (or hear rather) lots of those boom box going around and man if there's one thing they're really good at is...killing the music.

Super nice PCWork! Enjoy the music more now...and for the record, I am sure you agree you broke your wallet for a good cause

What about the top corners of your walls? These are the biggest boom makers if not treated.

Ok, so I'm not going to talk about wattage so much. My cousin is using a Menthor Integra amp (remember the 25-watter hybrid amp) to drive his 1st generation Concertino. He's not bi*ching about it and what's even more, he's enjoying every moment of it and is NOT even thinking about changing the amp (he's had the same setup for six years now). He doesn't listen very loud though - although I think the Integra's tubes would shatter driving the Concertinos loudly

So I'm not going to bust the bubble and say "guys, drop the amp upgrades" but what I wanted to get across is, what we have is probably already good enough for the job. Just take the time to do the necessary fine tuning and be patient. When we embarked on this journey, we already knew fine tuning was going to be a lot harder a job than buying and assembling the gears but it is what we have to do. Nobody said it was going to be easy but it is what makes this hobby so much fun.

Know your needs and trust your ears...

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Added on June 2, 2009, 8:43 amI echo Mugenfoo - how many times have we seen those upgrade-holics who spend so much on their system and fail to enjoy the music at the end of the day. They do so much to get every last bit of details that they forgot the gist of it all - the music itself.

This post has been edited by etteoh: Jun 2 2009, 08:43 AM

Speaking from a personal standpoint - the only rule is, there are no rules. Do what works for you. If the music sounds good at the end of the day and you're happy, then that rule is the one that works for you.

What we all discuss here should only serve as a general / base rule. You take it and tweak it here and there (heck, and bend it if you will) to suit your tastes No one rule works for everyone because we all have different gears, rooms and tastes.

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Added on June 2, 2009, 10:42 amI thought the Perfect Hi-fi in Puchong IOI Mall has it up for audition?

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Headphones provide a different kind of satisfaction. For a while, I ventured into Head-Fi. Started off with a Grado SR-125, then the SR-325i before going flat out serious for the GS-1000. From personal experience, they just cannot replace the "feel" I have grown to appreciate from a full blown hi-fi setup.

That is not to say they are not engaging whatsoever. They are in their own ways and they sound really good but it fails to reproduce the emotion and feel I get from listening to hi-fi.

Yeah, I get what you mean TarePanda but it is going to be difficult in a lot of ways to use headphones for speaker positioning because they are two very different hardware with very different characteristics. As much as I enjoyed the sound from the GS-1000, it is unlikely I want my SFs sounding like them

But if you have a really good pair of cans and you want to see if you are listening to a particular track correctly through your speakers, then yes, you can use the headphones as a reference/guide since they are not subjected to boom issues...just be sure your cans are up for the job. I wouldn't want to use a less than able pair as a reference/guide for my SFs...

I agree with PCWork. For someone who has been active in the SF thread, man we want you in the family!

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Added on June 4, 2009, 3:17 pmAnd HushyMushy's sale is giving you even more reasons to own one

This post has been edited by etteoh: Jun 4 2009, 03:17 PM

Think about it - the SF will be the best investment you make. It was for most, if not all of us here

We only want the best for you

LOL! Poor car_o_scope is not going to be able to sleep tonight...make that for many more nights to come

EPOS speakers are good. I have listened to a few different setups with them too and yeah, I'll testify to that. I have also listened to a few ProAcs and damn, those are some pretty impressive stuff.

I'm going to have to say this - SF fan notwithstanding - but of so many speakers I have brought back to my home, only the SFs are able to give me that full indulging sound that I soooo long for. Even until today, I can play the same track I just played yesterday and I will still be awe'ed.

I cannot explain why this is but the SFs bridges the gap in my needs...and nicely at that.

The only reason I can think of on why you have a preference towards size (guys, we're still talking about speakers here, don't let your minds wander off elsewhere ) is because you're worried the smaller sized SFs cannot produce a fuller sound of a bigger sized variant. If this is the reason, then all I can say is you're going to be in for a very pleasant surprise Go give them a listen without putting size in mind...then come back and tell us what you think...or better still come back and tell us you bought them

SF purchases are bank breakers BUT you will look back and say, "Damn, they were worth breaking the bank for!"

Congratulations and welcome to the club Car_o_scope. I knew you had it in you

Dudes, just go with what works for you. Some people like to hang their cables and if they like how their system sounds that way, who's to say it is wrong? Similarly, those who leave it on the ground may find no additional benefits by hanging them up in the air so why bother with all the additional work? Just remember, we tune our own systems to a point that we are happy with the end result. The most important thing after that is to sit back, relax, forget all the technicalities and enjoy the music

With that kind of money, I'll buy a used SF anytime...then again, that's just me. There are people who like their stuff brand new...