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post May 29 2008, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ May 29 2008, 10:27 AM)
boss,

can i use this calculation:-

my buying price 10.50

therefore, RM1/10.50 x 0.74 (tax rate) = 7% dividend?
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Can also. Total for the year is Rm1.15.

Genting is having its technical rebound after recent sell off. Don't know sustain or not, I think it much depends on how its financial result now.

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post May 29 2008, 11:10 AM

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Just read Resorts financial result. Lastest Q result earning is 5.09 cents, annualised 20.36 cents, at current share price of 3.20, PE is about 15.7. Not cheap though nor expensive, a fair price.
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 29 2008, 01:15 PM)
Removing the subsidy will fuel inflation! SO BETTER THINK TWICE! Bigger budget deficit or higher CPI and PPI. Either way, the outlook for KLCI is BLEAK.
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Either way is bleak, no escape route at the moment. Quite correct. Stock market won't tumble without any reason, if future is bright and good ahead, do you think Genting share would fall from more than 8.00 to now less than 6.00? Market will take care of itself and it is a future discount mechanism ie. current stock price is reflecting 6 month to 1 year ahead situation.

But gov only tell half of the story, as oil price keep on surging, Petronas is making tons of money from it which Malaysia should benefit from it. You have more subsidy paying out but you are still earning more from the source of it. So breakeven only for the gov if gov is using its resources more properly, less wastage. Please don't buy a screw driver that cost Rm200 will do. sweat.gif

Until now, Malaysia is a net exported of oil (not yet as net importer but projected to be in next 5 years if production and consumption level as same as predicted).

Don't get me wrong, I know it is not sustainable in long run with high subsidy around. Just to highlight the half story issue.

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post May 29 2008, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 29 2008, 01:52 PM)
IT's the government's fault to create artificial demand. IF i am not mistaken, private consumption increased last quarter, from auto sales to construction. Take away the subsidy, and all those gains will be wiped out.

Technically, with 7.1 % GDP growth, budget deficit of 3.1% GDP, and inflation rate of 2.3%; is our economy growing or slowing down?

Petronas might earn a lot of money, but so far couple of states are owed billions in royalties that have not been paid.
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One reason for private consumption increment is because of massive paid rise for gov servant. Those salary increment is being spent out and circulate in the economy system. That's one of the reason why 7.1% is achieved.

But it affects the gov budget deficit over the long run as more and more gov servant being hired. We have more than 1 millions people are working under gov or gov related agencies with total population of 20+ million (including kids, retired people)

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2008, 02:07 PM)
mate, i checked out with my dad during lunch just now

he has 150 lots of MAGNUM at 2.xx averagely, he said they will send you cheque
and seems like MAGNUM is going to give another final round of dividends (didnt announce how much yet)

fat fat pocket yeah  rolleyes.gif
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When they reached the mandatory take-over (owning more than 90%) then it will trigger automatically all remaning shareholders have to sell their shares to the party that privatise it disregard the reamaning 10% shareholders' wish.

So by right, they will send the cheque for the privatisation offer and debit your shares in the CDS. But I have no experience regarding it. So don't know whether existing shareholders need to do anything, may be Iklatmy can give out more accruate information about privatisation deal.
By right on paper, shareholders don't need to do anything.
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ May 29 2008, 02:28 PM)
I have already posted the answer in #464 above.
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Oppss, sorry didn't remember, will check back. Thanks.

Somebody just make a wrong transaction in F&N, key in mistaken or what.
Spotted because F&N is in my 'favourite page' list.

This stock is around Rm9.00, somebody just sold 160 lots at 7.95. Force-sell also not like that mah. Those who bought instantly 10K+. Now back to 8.95.

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post May 29 2008, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ May 29 2008, 02:52 PM)
I dont that people will get to buy at 7.95. It will be first person in next queue grab it... if the queue is at RM8.00 then it is sold at RM8.00... same goes to buyer. Will clear the first buy/sell queue first... just my understanding...
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Because it was done one shot at 160 lots. So even you Q at 8.50 with 10 lots, you still will get done at 7.95, because the sellers key in 7.95, unless the buy Q at that time is more than 160 lots then it will be done at the best buyer price, if not (buy Q less than seller order) it will match the seller's wish price.

Just found one interesting issue, the Genting buyer's withdraw at least 5000 lots on each Q at 5.90 and 5.85, previously more than 13-15K+ one, now all less than 10K.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2008, 03:08 PM)
whoa error account...sounds new to me. smile.gif

by the way, i thought we tend to make mistake during rush hour (peak market), haha!
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Then tell me which counter you are going to sell next time. brows.gif laugh.gif

There are a lot of people purposely Q in those low liquidity low volume counter that haven't many sellers and buyers between one, they always Q like when last done is 9.00 then buyer Q at 7.95 (like F&N) case, or last done 7.50, Q 6.45. etc. It is like 'fishing' game.

This is not once this has happened, it happened many many times. Once it is become severe on one case, that some one mistakenly key in more than 1000 lots, wrong price with wrong lot! causing several hundred K of cost.

That's why online trading portal doesn't allow retailers to have direct connection which all online trading orders are being routed to broking server first then only re-direct to KLSE trading system. There is a limit of the online trading site that allow one to key in how many lot also. More than that or credit limit, it doesn't allow it to go through. As they afraid someone mistakenly key in it. Even when we type sometime talk about 1,000 share then become 1000 lots.

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QUOTE(dsugums @ May 29 2008, 01:03 PM)
The bet is on. I lose, I give you my stokin busuk. I win, I take ur slipper  thumbup.gif
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Your busuk stocking is on risk now. icon_idea.gif laugh.gif
Market turns 'sour'. whistling.gif


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2008, 03:33 PM)
your saw that from your crystal ball, dont ya  brows.gif

still, small fish are buying. didnt spot any big fish to buy yet.
good thing is, buy rate is greater than sell rate.
not interested in that ler. lol.
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Actually too many small fish buying is not a good sign le. Need big block one.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2008, 03:39 PM)
yahlor cherroy, 10lot, 20lot, 40lot, 50lot  yawn.gif  yawn.gif  yawn.gif

sekali one bad ass throw 1000lot away, kaput jor  sweat.gif
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Small fishes eat, eat, eat then 2000 lots finished, but sellers put another 5,000 on the tables, like that small fish surely 'mati kenyang' later on.
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 29 2008, 03:40 PM)
No, i want to bottom fishing on Genting, but i really hate airasia. 6 continuous times , my flights were delayed. That's why i want them to go down.
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Wah like that also can. sweat.gif biggrin.gif

Never mind, still valid good reason mah, delay flight mean don't doing job properly.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 29 2008, 03:52 PM)
hope AA change their food menu

bored with nasi lemak, maggie curry, roti jala with curry chicken, etc

can we have some steak & red wine, instead? money is not a issue biggrin.gif
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You need to take first class flight on MAS or SIA, then rib-eye steak plus some good wine will be served. icon_idea.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(okk @ May 29 2008, 04:51 PM)
Hi, need some guidance here...
I notice that for one of the stocks in KLSE, there is always someone who pump in a lot of shares in sell queue at certain time frame, EVERYDAY. Then buying will keep coming in, taking from the queue.
This happens everyday for some time already, is it some sort of internal playing or what?
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Because big players are watching and responding everytime. Not everyone will put in buy/sell Q when they want to buy/sell.

Big seller want to sell, will fill up the sell Q everytime the seller's Q is finished or nearly finished. Like that they can sell in much better price without depressing the share price too much. If someone early in the morning put up 50k lots want to sell, buyers all 'cabut' and mostly Q at lower side, not many want to take the seller liao.

Big buyers want to buy also won't straight away put 20-30K Q in the buyer side, only buy when there is enough seller then take it. Like that they can can prevent price move too significantly with too big block selling/buying.
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ May 29 2008, 05:25 PM)
If we can notice a big block of buying...do u think its time to buy? ^^ since they are gonna push it up very soon


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Ooops...someone lost their boxers  rclxm9.gif  flex.gif  rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif
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You don't know how much they got in their card (whether buy or sell, still the same) which is the reason why they don't want to put it all on the Q. If all put in the Q, then exposed already.
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QUOTE(dsugums @ May 29 2008, 05:28 PM)
Tomrow can carry forward the bet ah?  brows.gif
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LOL, playing FKLI meh. smile.gif


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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 29 2008, 05:30 PM)
Haha, tomorrow last day lo........

Dow Jones drop 200 points tonight, and tomorrow we see CI red red!
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Currently DJ also not moving big in either side. Also on low volume mood.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 30 2008, 10:06 AM)
one thing for sure is, there is no big funds coming in to support GENTING yet.

still, small fish are buying.
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QUOTE(dsugums @ May 30 2008, 10:08 AM)
Careful, volume is ultra thin for Genting. Don't lose your pants
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The thin volume with price creep up, not that good le. But its result does raise lot of concern, although not as bad as some anticipated, but still is a poor Q, that's why dropping so much recently esepcially after news/result of Genting International came out from Singapore.

Still it is considered a technical rebound at the moment, but with right timing, still can make a few peanut out of it. biggrin.gif
Need some good volume with price incremental to confirm its bottom at 5.75, otherwise, might just stuck at around 6 level.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 30 2008, 10:29 AM)
so cherroy, planning to kutip peanut today? tongue.gif
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No. A bit too late to pick up. Hesistation when 5.75, (when I asked time 2 days ago said lost clue a bit), cost the opportunites loss. Learn another lesson, sometimes don't hesistate.

Also, found out the buyer Q always 'fake' one, often withdraw one. Its footing not strong yet, seller Q is solid but buyer Q not yet known.

May be below 6.00 will pick. Not my main target, just for some peanut fun, as you know, I like my holding stock to have at leat more than 5-6% dividend yield one. tongue.gif

Just simple compile of big cap latest rsult. Only Pbbank, PPB and others plantation stocks are reporting good result, others quite disappointing around.

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QUOTE(aretla @ May 30 2008, 10:38 AM)
genting is 6% dividend yield mah
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LOL, where got? Genting is like saving account interest rate only.
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Whenever CEO or MD of a company sells its own company, it won't be a good sign.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 30 2008, 11:15 AM)
there are a lot of idiot faking the TIME price.

1 lot (100share). Kacau oni. 1 lot cost him 13+19 =>32 or translate to share value of 0.32. Stupid ka
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No. Contract is calculated based on the whole day total.

Let say you buy 1 lots 10 times in one day. They will calculate as one contract of 10 lots. So only 1 contract with 1 min commission applied. The buyer cost is not as you taught.

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