izzit very little? this is how much irene was feeding scubby wor. the vet never said he is under weight when we took him for 2nd vacc. when i touch his rib and stomach, doesn't feel skinny ah. i'm feeding him eukanuba puppy for small breed. could it be this brand no need so much?


why you want snowball to be bigger meh? they are supposed to be small size doggie wor
i think soon i won't be able to put scubby in his doggie bag and carry him on my shoulder...

This post has been edited by benjac: Nov 25 2008, 06:17 PM

sei loh, next time how am i going to curi-curi bring him down from my condo for walks. now can still hide in the bag. i think i have to start carry 10kg bag of rice everyday to train myself

about the food intake, i emailed irene and she replied me. i'm following her way since she knows best for her westies. ozzy and christy is the best example of her good care

here is how she feed:
1 - 3 months = 1 chinese soup spoon, 3x a day
3 months = 1.5 chinese soup spoon, 3x a day
4 months onwards = 2 chinese soup spoon, 3x a day OR 3 chinese soup spoon, 2x a day (just make sure the amount is 6 spoon/day)

i know everyone have their own way la. so let's all be caring responsible parents and do what is best

This post has been edited by benjac: Nov 26 2008, 04:08 PM

yup correct! the coloured plastic type that hawker uses to serve noodle soup, but not those cheap white ones that they throw away ok.

put in backpack also good idea! i must start using now, if not next time he won't let me put him inside

if you see that snowball is too thin, then slowly increase his food. but don't suddenly add too much, else he might get stomach upset.
irene said, after reach 9mth to 1yr onwards, can slowly increase food depending on his exercise. if he is very active, then a bit more lo.

oh, when you measure the kibble on the spoon, not to be a big mountain ya. just nicely fit the spoon is perfect. she demo for me that time


you must have frightened him when he was small. you can slowly try again, give him treat and put him inside. don't force lo. everyday a few minutes, until he can stay longer. and then only use that to bring him out, so he knows when he sees the bag, it means kai2

This post has been edited by benjac: Nov 26 2008, 06:01 PM

i think all dogs barks la, if not then they are not dog

i'm staying in a condo also, and with quite a lot of malays. i am also very scared my neighbours can hear and complain. i get panic attack everytime scubby decides to bark for my attention but now after 3 weeks together, i am not so scared when he barks. i think if you really wan a westie, you really need to spend the first few weeks with him/her. coz puppies are babies, and are afraid of new environments.

now my only concern is, how to bring him down after he grows bigger. i put him in a doggy bag now when we go out. he knows when i bring out the bag, means he gets to go out

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Added on November 26, 2008, 8:05 pmyou don't zip him up immediately when you put him inside the bag. make sure it has a big base so he can lie down lo. if you force him inside your sister's handbag, unless damn big, of course he will be scared la

anyway, you live in a house so don't need to carry him in a bag ya. for us who lives in condo, then need to train our dogs lo

This post has been edited by benjac: Nov 26 2008, 08:09 PM

then hor, when you pass by my condo and see a crazy woman pulling a stroller and walking a dog, that would be me

hi! here is scubby this week
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okok here's 2 more
i've ran out of ideas of how to take his pic i tried for 1hr+ and there's not much choices since he looks the same

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This post has been edited by benjac: Dec 1 2008, 06:37 PM

i groom him everyday. after his morning nap, i will brush his fur and trim his fur. thanks to larryho, he reminded me that the ears must cut away the extra fur to make the ears look sharp. if you look at westie website, they got teach how to groom them yourself
his 3rd vacc is this saturday. after that he can go kai2 lo

for you guys who are also interested to DIY your westie, here is a site larryho shared with me:
http://www.canadawestieclub.ca/maint/petgroom3.html

wei you really bought the white lamb ar? sommore got name already also

This post has been edited by benjac: Dec 1 2008, 06:53 PM

paiseh paiseh actually you can also trim marquis' ears so it will look more pointy i think now his ears very bushy so makes it look bigger

yes! you should definitely give irene a call and visit her westies
and you should also ask her, why she haven't bring her westies to get the lion cut she promised when i asked

wah you want 4TH one ar? better hurry put in deposit lo

This post has been edited by benjac: Dec 1 2008, 10:29 PM

i groom him everyday so he'll be in shape. less tedious also compared if wanna groom him once a week
i noticed his fur grow very fast also

yeah she told me this new litter is better quality of colour combination. i wonder if they are already all sold out. her puppies are super laku.
hopefully she will give ozzy the lion cut soon. i also want to see how he'll look like

where are your westies from? i noticed from the photos you posted of casper, moonie and marquis, they look very different from irene's, scubby or from westie website

This post has been edited by benjac: Dec 1 2008, 10:40 PM

i used to be 50% housewife 50% freelance writer. but now after getting scubby, i have become 80% nanny 20% housewife
once scubby is much older, i will try to cut the jacket for him. i know it'll be ugly the first try keke. but can save a lot and maybe next time can open side business

ooo asian westies vs angmoh westies

keep more? now 1 already i want to pengsan. taking care of puppy and house training him is not easy job
maybe next time when we stay in a house, can "consider" getting another one keke

ohh i just noticed you "editted" your post from last night after i replied you


hey i've seen these photos before, when i was doing research to get a westie. i noticed none of the photos looks like your westies. are you saying that these are different from your asian roots? i read from http://www.officialwestieguide.com/westie/...ers-are-there-2 that you said, westies got a lot of type. but if they are PURE breed, shouldn't they look the same?!?

here is the official breed standard for westies: http://www.westieclubamerica.com/breed/standard.html
this standard is being use internationally worldwide to determine whether a westie is pure breed.

they also give example of westies that does not fulfill the standards - big ears too far apart, long skull, muzzle longer than skull, long thin tail, soft curly fur, etc...

those that are deciding to buy a westie, can have a look at these guidelines


scubby has less fur?

last saturday, i saw 1 westie in pets wonderland in great eastern mall. the poor fella's fur is like short coat and he is 4 days older than scubby. maybe you should go see him. i think that is SUPER less fur

This post has been edited by benjac: Dec 2 2008, 02:42 PM

i'm not saying 100% the same, but they should at least fulfill the basic criteria of round head, short muzzle, rough coat, short tail, small ears, etc.
this is the reason why they have this guideline. if not, then where is the quality?

your example based on humans, does not make sense. i am not saying that they don't look like dogs, i am saying they are not pure breed westies. a chinese can look mixed if born in overseas, but he is still human. correct? but he just don't look like pure breed chinese so if a westie doesn't fulfill the basic criteria of a westie, he/she is still a dog

so now the discussion is, whether or not, these westies are pure breed or not. but i know, a lot of people don't really care. perhaps you do not also. but when i decided to buy scubby, it was a decision factor

you said scubby has LESS fur, not shorter in your reply above. he is only almost 3 months old, are you comparing him with marquis which is older?

i am not comparing my westie with the one in the shop. i am simply politely telling you to go see what LESS fur means. the pup is the same age as scubby, so the comparison is fair. and they are selling him for RM2500, which is definitely not cheap too.

1st and 2nd pic does not fulfill the AKC standard, definitely. head is too long, muzzle longer than skull, ears too big, and tail is not straight. i think the head look like jack russell terrier.

3rd pic i am not sure, since i am not expert in westie. but basic differences, can still be spotted like pic 1, 2 and 4.

4th pic's ears are too big.

This post has been edited by benjac: Dec 2 2008, 04:22 PM

matthew, i am not sure where this whole episode of our longer and longer post is going. it's obvious that our points are different and also a more obvious misunderstanding from the moment you typed less fur. i am not trying to compete with your marquis on who has the longer fur or more.

as for scubby's champion blood line, honestly, we never even bothered. i did my research on this breed, and was looking at the most nearest resemblance of him to the original. i am not sure how "pure" breed scubby is. all i know is, when i look in books or westies website, he looks like a carbon copy for his age. but when i look at yours (no offence ok), they do not. again like you said, this depends on individual preference.

ozzy and christy was bought and imported back to malaysia for about RM14,000. that is what irene told me casually during my collection of scubby last month. i've also seen their mka certs twice, which stated 6 (if not mistaken) generations of champion bloodline. but unfortunately, ozzy and christy are not champions themselves because irene did not enter them. i have yet to receive scubby's mka cert, so i cannot be absolutely sure about his grandparents.

the photos at dogbreedinfo are not all pure breed. they are just photos of people sharing their westies to others. those westies are obviously mixed breeds because their features does not meet the basic criteria of a pure breed westie. you can refer to the website i shared above for the guidelines. but undeniably, they are still westie. just not pure.

kudos to larryho about kuro having the westie look. he definitely looks like an adorable male westie. why were there any doubts?!?
but for yours, again no offence, i have to think twice.

just like you, i have no intention to cause any unhealthy or ill feelings among owners here. i am also here to share what limited knowledge i have of this breed i've just adopted for a month

hi everyone,

i know i have been missing for a long time. but i have a sad news to share, and i hope other Westie lovers and potential Westie owners beware of this situation.

during a visit to the vet, Scubby's doctor found that his hind legs barely touches the floor when he walks. after doing an x-ray, the result showed us that Scubby has Hip Dysplasia. This is an incurable hereditary problem that is passed on from the dam and sire to their puppies.



from now on, scubby needs to take glucosamine and chondroitin supplements for the rest of his life. there is no cure for this problem, just delay as much as we can. he will have a very painful life when he grows older and he would not be able to walk or jump like other dogs.

irene kang is selling her puppies again. so if you are planning to buy her westie puppy, please consider this factor because it is a lifelong commitment - both emotionally and financially.

before you buy a puppy from the pet shop, make sure you find out the dam & sire's health condition. irene promised us that her dogs are of good quality and healthy, but now i know she was just trying to sell us her puppy and make money...

This post has been edited by benjac: Apr 21 2009, 01:05 PM

i just informed her via her post in another forum. i don't know if she knows, but after my experience with her, she has been dishonest for a few occasions and we never make a fuss with her. but this time, i think it is my responsibility to inform others especially since i promoted her dogs so much previously.

this is a huge commitment now and we love scubby so much. i cannot imagine my pain when i see him in pain next time the doctor already advised us that scubby should not jump or be too active from now on. and he is only 7 months...

This post has been edited by benjac: Apr 21 2009, 01:51 PM

read that you just got your westie. welcome to the westie clan

may i suggest that once you bring your westie home, bring him for a check-up with a good vet. not trying to scare you but it is better to be prepared if your westie have any unforeseen conditions not visible now at his age. my previous vets at petcare, taman melawati was total useless. make sure you find a good vet and not those that "drink blood"

do update us once you bring him home ok

i'm not sure how much it is for a general check-up, it depends on where you go i guess.
scubby did a blood test for RM65 and the xray was RM90. all this was done at Gasing Veterinary Hospital in PJ.


ok the story is like this...

since we took him back from irene, we noticed that his back leg tip-toes when he walks. but we never suspect anything was wrong. we often make fun when he jumps because his back legs doesn't touch the ground, like he is lazy.

now that he is 7mths old, we want to get him neutered. and i asked around other forum for a good vet since it requires surgery and i heard scary stuff that dogs don't wake up after it. that is how i know about Gasing Veterinary Hospital.

first visit there, DrLim suggested doing a blood test to see if there are any underlying kidney or liver problem. because all dogs are under anesthetic for surgery, and the body eliminates the drugs by the kidney and liver. so if the dog have these 2 prob, it could be serious or fatal. especially for a puppy. this is when DrLim noticed Scubby's back leg and he recommended xray. for many months i go to petcare at taman melawati, non of the vets there noticed!

the xray showed that both his femur bones doesn't connect nicely to the pelvis - known as hip dysplasia. there is no cure for this and surgery doesn't guarantee it either. scubby is still young, there are not much prob now. but as he grows older, he will have difficulty walking and painful movements. he is not limping or showing signs of pain, it's just that his back legs looks like walking on air...

about irenekang, i am very upset with her due to her many times being dishonest with us. one of her many lies was when i asked if she kept any puppies, she said NO and want to untung back money only keep. but after you visited her, you posted a picture of pinky?!?! i seriously thought it was another puppy she didn't show us and not scubby's sister. she even asked us to lie about how much we paid for scubby!

we already planned to get another westie from her later but now, i will advice other people not to buy from her. yes, her westies are nice, but got genetic prob and she told me both her westies have no genetic probs. i trusted her and helped her promote her dogs, but now i know she is just another business woman after our money.

you and your gf met her personally, i am sure she TALK NON-STOP about how good quality her westies are compared to the ones in KL when you were at her house -- short carrot tail, small pointy ears, small body, a lot of fur, short muzzle, etc. we didn't even get a chance to ask her anything because she keep hard sell her puppies, so we also kena brainwash and paid RM500 deposit after 30mins.

matthew, now i understand why you were so upset with marcuslim...