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leesa
post Feb 28 2010, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(mghong @ Feb 27 2010, 02:12 AM)
Daily interest mean , when ever you make a payment , the interest for next month will changes.
for example ,your monthly due is every 3th day of the month

Usually we will bank in after salary day which is 30th of the month and once we ot the salary we will bank in the loan repayment on 30th  and so that next month interest base on the day we bank in ..instead 3th Day of the month.

Old method is monthly rest , hence the interest for the month will calcute on certain date..but not when we bank in.

Pls correct me if i'm wrong on this smile.gif
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does it mean that it works something like this:

say on the 30th, i put in my salary of 4k. if i take a loan of 200k, thus the interest for the next month would be calculated based on 196k?

i dont really understand how it works, the part where the longer the money stays in the account, the better it is.

also, stan chart is offering me zero entry cost but due to the location of the bank and interbank transfer costs, i'm not so keen on stan chart. how much would this ZEC come to (my property is 299k)?

are there any other banks offering ZEC?

This post has been edited by leesa: Feb 28 2010, 01:32 AM
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post Feb 28 2010, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(QQstore88 @ Feb 28 2010, 08:43 AM)
not advisable.


Added on February 28, 2010, 9:10 am

You may refer to my post.

or now i teach you a simply way to calculate

4k x 3.35% = 134 / 365 x how many day you put in bank, let's say in a month you put the 4k for 10 days without use it.

4k x 3.35% / 365 x 10 = RM3.67

you save very less only.
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this is very helpful. mortgage banker (not from any bank) told me that flexi loan isnt really for me since i dont have any debit other than my monthly salary. but i was impressed with the flexi amount facility, rather than the interest saved. its quite a hassle especially since my salary isnt credited into that account, but have to spend rm1 or rm2 to transfer there. might not even make any interest since there is rm10 monthly charges
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post Feb 28 2010, 06:17 PM

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I hope you can give me some insights on which should I take:

a. BLR -1.9% with ZEC
b. BLR -2.1% with no ZEC

In the long run, I would have save about rm10k in 30 years tenure when the legal fees would cost only rm4.5k. what are the other things that i need to consider regarding the BLR -1.9% with ZEC?
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post Feb 28 2010, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Bon Lee @ Feb 28 2010, 11:05 PM)
This is quite technical. As you mentioned, your legal fee is rm4.5k. I guess your loan amount is RM200k and loan tenure is 30years.

In fact, BLR-1.9% ZEC better than BLR-2.1% non-ZEC.

Firstly, 0.2% difference equipvalent ~RM30 on monthly interest. If lock in period 5yrs, 12x30x5=RM1800, which is lesser than RM4.5k legal fee.
After lock in period, you always can revise your rate internally or refinance to another bank.

Secondly, 62% of customers will settle their loan within 10years. If you plan to earn back 10.8k interest saving along 30years end up paying more interest to bank, it is not worthy.

Thirdly, net present value(NPV) for 10.8k along 30years is only left 3.3k ( refer to buku sifir, assume inflation rate at 4% ) but if you chose for free legal fee, you save 4.5K immediately. Saving up front mostly better than saving by term.
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thanks for your advice.

now i have an even better rate from HSBC.

BLR-2.0% ZEC vs BLR-2.3% non-ZEC

i was thinking that since this rate is the best of all the banks so far, could any other bank top this rate in 5 years for me to consider refinancing? the closest 'competitor' is -1.9% for non-ZEC (non-panel bank for developer). i thought it might be a little unlikely (totally my layman opinion), so there is no need for me to refinance the loan after 5 years.

i did some rough calculations. if i select the -2.1% and pay the legal fees in cash, i will only 'untung' (regain the 4.5k i've paid) after the 8th year. means that i need to stick to HSBC for at least 8 years. so the question is after the 5th year, would there be any other rate lower than HSBC's?

i think it is unlikely that i will be able to settle the loan in 10 years.

your 3rd point is an interesting insight on inflation. 1point for ZEC package.

but i'm still wondering: in 5 years, how possible is it for HSBC's rate to drop below another banks rate? if there is a high possibility, then it would be worth paying the legal fee package.
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post Mar 1 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(alextcs @ Mar 1 2010, 08:46 AM)
based on my experience, i will choose BLR - 2.0% ZEC.......
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may i ask why so? the same reasons given as Bon Lee?
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post Mar 1 2010, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Mar 1 2010, 04:05 PM)
HI This is some thing i saw on the internet,

Would like to share this with you all

Structured Home Financing-i
Al Rajhi Structured Home Financing-i is ideal for anyone who has executed the S&P agreement on a completed property and is looking for financing or anyone looking to refinance an existing residential property - while enjoying the protection of Shariah.

With Al Rajhi Structured Home Financing-i you get flexibility, including up to 90% financing and up to 35 years repayment terms. And because there is no interest charged, you avoid the compounding effect on your outstanding balance.

Enjoy the competitive rates of :
BFR -2.10% throughout the financing tenor (without Free Moving Cost)
or,
BFR -2.00% throughout the financing tenor (with Free Moving Cost)
(the prevailing BFR is 5.85% with effect from 3 April 09)
    * FAST Approval
    * Flexible pre-agreed contract terms
    * Up to 90% financing
    * Floating rate structure tied to Base Financing Rate
    * Rebate for early settlement
    * Is in Compliance with Al Rajhi Bank (Malaysia) Shariah Standard
    * SMS Alerts
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sounds interesting.. are there any HSBC or Al Rajhi bankers out there who could contact me? the HSBC person who was supposed to meet me today was late by 1 hour and that p1ssed me off already. looking for another one..
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post Mar 3 2010, 09:37 AM

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hi, can anyone tell me the differences between islamic banking and the conventional one? HSBC Amanah is processing my loan. the banker told me that the only difference is that for islamic banking, i dont have to pay the instalments anymore and the bank would refund me the interests paid should the project be abandoned before completion.

is that all the difference? after finding out that HSBC Amanah credit cards cannot be used at non-halal restaurants, now i am wondering if there is anything else 'hidden' that the banker did not mention? hmm.gif (cos HSBC Amanah is not allowed to sell the conventional plans)
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post Mar 3 2010, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(limjenson @ Mar 3 2010, 06:07 PM)
That was probably true awhile back but now Islamic Products comes with a Ceiling Rate so effectively, they still follows the BLR Rate cause due to the contract you sign is being based on the ceiling rate, it's still Syariah compliance.

At least if the BLR goes higher than the Ceiling Rate, you don't need to pay more than the ceiling rate. tongue.gif
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yeah, they call it BFR (base finance rate, i think) that is the same as the BLR which is currently at 5.5%. guess the plus points of islamic is the ceiling rate.

any downsides or not? islamic cant be all good only right? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 5 2010, 10:18 PM

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HSBC's BLR -2.1% was only under the special rate for my project, which they are trying to appeal to offer to me now. they revised it last week (according to my banker) and its very low now at 1.3. if u pay the legal fees, then it would be 1.9
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post Mar 27 2010, 12:57 AM

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Hi all..

Earlier I received good information from here and would like to do my part, as well as share a little.

Stan Chart has a ZEC promotion until the end of March. I've done some comparisons and I think not many banks (if any at all, correct me if I am wrong) offer ZEC anymore. ZEC is at -1.9BLR and non-ZEC is at -2.1BLR. I signed yesterday and got this rate.

HSBC Amanah managed to matched their rate when I told them what Stan Chart offered. Alas, their service is extremely bad.

1. The 1st agent was 1 hour late for our appointment. We were supposed to meet at 12pm, not for her to leave her office at 12! Bad impression already.

2. Still interested in the bank, I left my number with the Customer Manager in Klang for him to arrange something for me or maybe get someone to call me back. Nothing at all from him.

3. Still still interested (as they had a promotional rate for my project), I contacted a 3rd person to submit my documents. 3 weeks later and still counting, not approved yet. CIMB and Stan Chart only took 1week+ to approve it. And no updates from the banker.. I am the one calling and asking for updates every few days. Is this how it should work??

2 days back when I call, she said that only 88% had been approved (some rule of theirs that people in their 20s can only get 88%. this doesnt happen in the other 2 approving banks). She said would appeal and let me know by the end of the day. That 'end of the day' was 2 days back. Got sick and tired of it and decided to sign with Stan Chart.

Was only interested in HSBC Amanah due to convenience in location in making payments etc. But looks like they aren't even interested in giving it to me at all.

Sorry to rant here, but am just so frustrated. Might end up paying interest due to this stupid delay.


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