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Complaint About AIA insurance
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Kilohertz
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Jul 12 2016, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 11 2016, 06:39 PM) Hi From the look of it, you've purchased into an investment-linked policy, the first year commission is charged at 20% for distribution fee, this is written upfront in the policy and also in the proposal form before you accepted it. If the agent didn't explain this part, then blame on the agent that you bought from. As for the product, it is across all insurance company, this model is run by all the insurance company, be it you want to jump to other insurance company, same foul cry you're going to make. It's not going to be any greener on the other side. And if you're buying the investment-link policy for "CAPITAL Appreciation" purpose, then you're on the wrong boat son. Insurance is for protection, if you're looking for 8% - 35% return, forget about it. The problem here is not AIA, the problem is you buying the policy for wrong intention which was "capital appreciation". +1, Very very true, a lot of people have the perception of using Insurance as investment. I would say if you want to invest, you can always invest on better things. The sole purpose of Insurance is for protection..
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Kilohertz
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Jul 12 2016, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 12 2016, 09:50 AM) The whole idea of Investment-Linked Policy is BUY TERM, INVEST THE REST, but managed by the insurance company. Managed by the Insurance to cover up for the cost of insurance and at the same time for investment. Of course, a person can always opt for term insurance but the COI will increase. This post has been edited by Kilohertz: Jul 12 2016, 09:53 AM
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Kilohertz
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Jul 12 2016, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 12 2016, 09:55 AM) Question - I've been telling people to pay attention to the investment linked funds as part of the selection criteria when selecting insurer. And people think I'm nuts Last I checked, 3 years annualised returns for Msia equity inv linked funds for AIA is 8+% and Prudential is 2+% In the long run this is going to make a lot of difference Now tell me, am I really wrong to think the inv linked funds returns do matter when it comes to deciding which insurer to go with? Inv linked funds are not premium guaranteed, if the funds don't perform we may need to top up premium later on to cover the insurance charges There are a list of funds to choose from when you buy an IL, are you comparing an apple to apple between AIA and Prudential funds? For example, the agent who sold AIA might chose an aggressive funds and coincidentally for that particular year, the market was good whereas the agent from Prudential chose a low risk fund. Just an example.. well if both funds are identical and AIA performed better, I would guess their fund managers are better at investment
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Kilohertz
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Jul 12 2016, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 12 2016, 10:04 AM) Cost of insurance with ILP DOES increase, just that u do not see it. E.g. U pay RM200 every month Your COI for Year 1 is RM50 a month RM150 goes toward investments, RM50 used up for COI Your COI for Year 2 is RM60 a month RM140 goes toward investments, RM60 used up for COI ... ... ... Your COI for Year 20 is RM150 a month RM50 goes toward investments, RM150 used up for COI And so on and on... Yes it does, but mostly people don't see it hence this is where the management of the Insurer comes in. You can just buy and let it run, providing it is quoted correctly for a long term sustainability.
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Kilohertz
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Jul 12 2016, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 12 2016, 10:10 AM) Oh, I did it myself. I'm experienced enough in funds to be able to do that Some of my old postings https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry79452016So it's an apple to apple comparison then I guess AIA is better off on their investment. Btw, which fund did you chose? Mind sharing? hehe
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Kilohertz
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Jul 12 2016, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 12 2016, 10:15 AM) Actually it's in the projections shown in the proposal. If you are diligent enough, you can compare across other insurers and also with term life policies. Generally they don't run too far I'm just pissed that everytime I raise this people talk down on me like I'm some Id*ot. Of course, also pissed that I'm with the insurer that has the low returns in their inv linked funds  Did you make a switch? Hopefully it's still not too late..
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