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Games Metal Gear Solid 4 Discussion Thread | V2, BEWARE: Major spoilers is now on the net

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kalnet
post May 23 2008, 09:11 PM

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so that means we have to go toilet 1st before playing this game then.haha
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post May 23 2008, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(kalnet @ May 23 2008, 09:11 PM)
so that means we have to go toilet 1st before playing this game then.haha
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too bad queuing up to buy mgs4 doesnt offer a pause screen,huh? laugh.gif
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post May 23 2008, 09:17 PM

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numbers system numbers system!

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post May 23 2008, 09:22 PM

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Another news...MGS4 will require 4.6GB installation before playing.
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post May 23 2008, 09:28 PM

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Waiting for the game to install won't kill me tongue.gif


Added on May 23, 2008, 9:28 pm@kira - you haven't added me. My list is full sweat.gif

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post May 23 2008, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(subimpact @ May 23 2008, 12:31 PM)
Beauty and the Beast ??
in MGA there is someone u contact called B.B.

Screaming Mantis' puppets also resembles  Elsie and Frances - A pair of marionettes that carry out the hijacking of Flight 326 in MGA


Added on May 23, 2008, 12:32 pmREX got nukes.. ray dont have nukes
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Isnt Screaming Mantis puppets is Phsyco Mantis & The Sorrow? hmm.gif i think i read somewhere that Kojima himself said there's a reason why he put both character as a puppet for Screaming Mantis


LOL...sub, Rex lose his railgun, how in the world he gonna launch the nuke? Shoot from the groin? laugh.gif

QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ May 23 2008, 12:35 PM)
i would love to see (in the cutscene from the rex V ray trailer) rex ram ray.
i suppose that would be one way of rex beating ray...
ram ray back into the sea! laugh.gif
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Hell yeah...Ramming is the only thing Rex can do and i bet it the only effective way
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post May 23 2008, 09:31 PM

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imagine we have to control rex to fight ray.damn will that be cool!but ray is stronger than rex.or is it?
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post May 23 2008, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(kalnet @ May 23 2008, 09:31 PM)
imagine we have to control rex to fight ray.damn will that be cool!but ray is stronger than rex.or is it?
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Ray is build to counter Rex counterpart(Rex blueprint was sell thru black market & nearly every country has Rex variation)

that 's one of the reason Ray is amphibious

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post May 23 2008, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(kalnet @ May 23 2008, 09:31 PM)
imagine we have to control rex to fight ray.damn will that be cool!but ray is stronger than rex.or is it?
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regardless who is stronger,the only thing i can see rex doing is ramming ray.
even then,should liquid be sharp enough,it's pretty easy to see rex coming,and with ray's agility,just dodge rex


dont forget ray has a laser in it's mouth-rex's is near the crotch doh.gif
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post May 23 2008, 09:34 PM

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REX = Brute

RAY = Agile

RAY produced to pr0n REX.

Quite hard for REX to pr0n RAY cause RAY is definitely gonna be faster.

"..its primary weapon is a powerful water jet cutter, which can cut through heavily-armored foes, such as Metal Gear REX derivatives." - wiki

Unless the Metal Gear RAY is a damaged model, chances are the weaponless REX is gonna be pr0n.
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QUOTE(Muchi @ May 23 2008, 09:34 PM)


Unless the Metal Gear RAY is a damaged model, chances are the weaponless REX is gonna be pr0n.
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maybe....since this Ray is the one Ocelot steal during the opening of MGS2, the only RAY that is piloted by human...the one Raiden fight is equipped with AI..jut like the Gekkou
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post May 23 2008, 09:37 PM

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u all will buy at low yat on 11-june? how much? hmm.gif



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post May 23 2008, 09:47 PM

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oit...when the Pre-order card gonna come out?...This monday ah?
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post May 23 2008, 09:51 PM

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someone snapped a photo of the casing back cover:

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4.6GB installation doh.gif
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post May 23 2008, 09:57 PM

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display/preorder box != final retail ver
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post May 23 2008, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(incognito @ May 23 2008, 09:51 PM)
someone snapped a photo of the casing back cover:

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4.6GB installation doh.gif
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post May 23 2008, 10:04 PM

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it's been mentioned countless times.
but Konami havent made any announcements about it, and in the interviews i've seen,no one has mentioned anything about installs yet.

so still waiting for official confirmation


Added on May 23, 2008, 10:10 pm
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The new issue is out and they have a MGS4 review in it.

Is it good? NO! ....is it phenomenal? YES!


[b]So the last time i talked about it was after i had visited the 'bootcamp' where i had to finish the game in a few days. But after that visit i was kinda dissapointed in a few things in the game...about certain moments, and about the story in general. However, now that i've finished it the game a second time, and took my time to really check everything out , that dissapointment is practically gone.

I am satisfied with the choices Kojima and his team have made, i can't go spoil anything here, so this might all sound very confusing.


Story

I can however say that MGS4 will be immensely enjoyed by the fans. The gamers that know MGS to MGS3. MGS4 ties all the knots together about the story, everything you didn't know, you'll know after finishing the game.

However, it seems as if Kojima got kinda lost in his own created MGS story, you will notice that when playing the game...you just get too much information, too much stuff about the story explained, too much to be able to understand easily.

So is that a bad thing? Yes and no, it's typical Kojima stuff, but outsiders that don't know the series will probably have to think twice about getting MGS4...maybe it's not for them.

Different ways to play

Ok, so maybe the part above this is alittle black-white, cause an outsider will probably still enjoy the first part of the game. I am talking about the levels that take place in the middle east and south america. In these two levels you will have to manouver snake through warzones, while sneaking. Of course you can also choose to get rid of the sneaking and just fight alongside other soldiers with weaponry.

I've tried both ways, sneaking only and using the weapons, and both are great. There's nothing like lobbing a grenade at a armoured vehicle or sniping an PMC. But on the other hand....succesfully sneaking past PMCs or disabling them in a friendly way (sleeping darts) is maybe even cooler. Cause it makes the game much more challenging and suspenseful.

Personally i loved the first part of the game the most, the chaos surrounding the warzone will have you sitting on the edge of your seat. The second part sadly doesn't seem to hold that 'feeling'. Which makes MGS4 look like a game with two faces. MGS4 is an incredible game, where you got great things but also some very weak moments in the second part.

Last words

You could see MGS4 as an ode to the previous MGS games, by flashbacks during the cutscenes, and by getting nice rewards. That's also the reason why this game really feels like the end for MGS, not only the story, but its as if Hideo is saying 'Ok guys, i had a great time, but i really want to focus on other things now' . I hope i aint spoiling anything for you guys, but there are so many memorable moments in this game, like the boss fights with the B&B unit. Unexpected characters,environments and happenings. And the last boss fight....is absolutely incredible, but of course you dont want me to tell you about that. You wanna see for yourself.

Phenomenal

Is MGS4 a good game? No, it's not. if you look at the game-elements and the emotions that you will no doubt get while playing this game, you have to come to a different conclusion.

Not just the flashbacks, but also the aging Solid Snake: The hero that you put on a pedestal, you see him changing into a sad little old man, a man that tries to hold on to his ........past. He becomes MUCH more human, you REALLY feel his pain and worries.

That my friends is something that no other game has ever managed to achieve for me. So the answer to the question if MGS4 is good , i as a fan can only say ....NO! The game is phenomenal.

Conclusion

MGS4 is a game that starts to grow on you, the longer you play it, the more you'll like it. After approx. 20 hours it's over and you can't wait to try it over again. But of course on a harder difficulty.

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post May 23 2008, 10:18 PM

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i was wondering since the preorder card can be printed out online,
how will techasia keep track of how many of it has been printed?
isn't it limited to 100 copy oni?
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post May 23 2008, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(irvene2000 @ May 23 2008, 10:18 PM)
i was wondering since the preorder card can be printed out online,
how will techasia keep track of how many of it has been printed?
isn't it limited to 100 copy oni?
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IINM online card just for online purchase, intended to those from outside Klang Valley. Correct me if i'm wrong.

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post May 23 2008, 11:26 PM

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the online card is for the event also...

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