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siaolang
post Jun 23 2008, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Tangiers @ Jun 18 2008, 01:10 PM)
As for job prospects for an actuary, exemptions matter most. The degree is only complementary at best. And if you want to know about salary, I'd say it's definitely worth it for people with all 8 CT exemptions, especially for a 22 or 23-year-old fresh graduate.  biggrin.gif 

That's all I have to share for now. If you have any inquiries, feel free to ask me.

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How's the job prospects for actuaries in Singapore? do you know if they take entry-level people? so If I take SOA exams, how many papers should I pass to be competent enough to get a job in Singapore?

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post Jun 24 2008, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 23 2008, 07:57 PM)
if about Malaysia Insurance companies, I can give advice about job prospects for actuaries.
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I'm considering Malaysian Insurance companies too. so, what advise do you have?
Basically how many of US soa papers are enough for an entry-level position?
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post Jun 24 2008, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Tangiers @ Jun 23 2008, 05:37 PM)


Could anyone who are more familiar with SOA's exams clarify? What qualifies as entry level and "competent enough to get a job" in particular?

As for job prospects in Singapore, I'm ashamed to admit that I've never thought of it myself. But then again, I may take things for granted because most NTU actuarial graduates have no problem finding jobs especially if they already have all CT (IOA) exemptions in hand.

The point is, exemptions matter most when it comes to the actuarial profession, no matter SOA or IOA. The more exemptions you have, the more attractive you are to employers. In other words, "you" create your own prospects. Singapore especially, is very hungry for talent. As long as you can satisfy that hunger, they'll treat you as a king, so to speak.

Unfortunately, the reverse is very true too. If you have no talent, then you're worthless to them. <Sigh>
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Thank you for your information. When I was in school, I've never worried so much for a job. But now graduated, start to worry to be one of the unemployed graduates. tongue.gif

I have some experience in SOA, so perhaps i can clarify it. basically there are 9 papers (last time 8). the 1st 5 are so-called the "preliminary" papers. Basically you won't get any exemptions for the courses you've taken in school for SOA exams except the VEE qualifications (which is not equivalent as papers, but a pre-requisite to become associate). So have to take the 1st 5 papers ourselves, then get VEE exemptions and can take some courses (they call that module), then only will get the Associate. If want to be Fellow to become a full-qualified actuary, have to take additional modules/papers.

In US, an entry-level actuary typically have 2 papers passed (the most 5), some without any paper still can secure a job but an internship before graduation is crucial for a full-time job.

Different countries have their own board to set the standard for Actuarial Science. But I assume that actuaries who from different background (SOA or ioa or etc) have the similar knowledge in actuarial science. So, for a fresh graduate in Singapore, normally how many exemptions are given? or equivalent to how many exams passed for Soa? (if can be compared such way).


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post Jul 24 2008, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(shingrons @ Jul 20 2008, 08:51 AM)
You are right.

To enter Australian U like Macquarie U, SAM is the easiest way, not that hard compared to U's in UK.

We can't get things perfect. If you want to study this subject in local, think and consider the imperfect part thoroughly.

ahh, I forget there's University of Waterloo in Canada!!!
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Shingrons, you working or studying?


QUOTE(Danny91 @ Jul 21 2008, 06:05 AM)
Hi, just stop by to ask a few questions....
I'm currently a Form 5 student.....been thinking of taking Acturial Science
I was thinking of doing Canadian Matriculation...or  University Preparatory Program at Columbia International College(which take 7 month..? i was wondering how come it so short...)
Anyway would appreciate if someone would give me advises about it...(guidance)
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so do you plan to go straight canada after the preparatory program and study 4 years there?


Added on July 24, 2008, 12:17 pm
QUOTE(shimy @ Jul 20 2008, 06:34 AM)
but if u r not rich n u cant get scholarship, u wont b able 2 go 2 those universities rite?no matter how gud dey r ...haizzz
n u nid 2 hv very very gud grades 2 get into those uni as well ...
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Utar i don't think so (correct me if i'm wrong). the public local U yes.

Australia and Singapore yes you have to have very good grades.

for US, no you don't have to get extremely good grades. provided you have sufficient $$$. unless you want to go to top-tier U like U Penn. Michigan is selective too. Normally ppl like to go Drake which has very good actuarial program but it doesn't really have a strict entry requirement.

This post has been edited by siaolang: Jul 24 2008, 12:17 PM
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post Jan 25 2009, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Jan 5 2009, 07:02 PM)
I see, thanks. I guess that's the case then as I've heard a couple of i-thinks on that all pointing towards no exemptions, just haven't got a definite i-know yet tongue.gif

Well I suppose so, accounting and computer science definitely has its role in act sci. I guess I'll just wait till I'm over with Exam P before making that particular decision :-\ Gonna have an preparatory class by the college soon and heard it's gonna cost RM1200, is it an overkill?
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I know there is no exemption for exams even you have taken relevant courses in your school. Paper is paper, degree is degree.
The only thing you can get exemption is VEE.

Which college ya studying in? got preparatory class for exam? not bad....


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post Jan 26 2009, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Jan 25 2009, 10:07 AM)
INTI College SJ. Well, it might get scraped though. Seems like the guy giving the class wants a minimum of 12 students, and only 9 signed up :-\
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Last time I studied i Inti too but there are no preparatory courses sad.gif
The guy is the student? That must be a lucrative business....

 

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