Dispute solved. thread closed!

This post has been edited by solarwing: Oct 15 2008, 01:17 AM

Inform him about this thread..

He is still actively online here, PM him to come over here to explain himself.

Rule #1: Do not ever bank in to Newbie and he is with 0 post. Always opt for C.O.D. method.

Please get my point clear here, I'm not saying all Newbies are conman, but taking precaution steps are necessary.

This note is on Garage Sales and Bulk Orders sub-forum, and it serves as a reminder:
You are reminded that the banking in of money to the account of somebody you do not know in the expectation of shipment is extremely risky and should not be practiced.

This post has been edited by fruitie: May 12 2008, 07:08 PM

inform him got use?even he online he also won't reply my msg and even phone him he also close his fon up! how do i know where he stay? can i get his address & info through the maybank?will maybank give me?anyone try before?

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Added on May 12, 2008, 7:21 pmya i know, but now regret already
anyone know the fellow help me hunting him!

This post has been edited by solarwing: May 12 2008, 07:21 PM

Yes, you can get information from Maybank provided you have a police report with you. In short you need to lodge a police report only his details can be revealed to you.

You have to inform him about this thread, he wants to come here or not, it's up to him. If he still doesn't appear here for more than 3 days despite still actively login to LYN, I'll help to request a dispute tag from the Admin.

This post has been edited by fruitie: May 12 2008, 07:24 PM

ok already inform him. cant help me search through him?
dam* busy for the final exam suddenly come out this case!
make me no mood study.

With a Lowyat.net ID like that and you still dared to deal with him?

On a more serious note, I advise you to take it as a lesson. Not to dampen your spirits, but figures amounting to few thousands couldn't even be resolved, what more a few hundred.

Try to practice COD more.

is too late to said all this now. i will searching he rite now. will pay a visit to his house after get his address.
Waste my time & energy to find for this useless people!

woii!!
i also got cheated by him..
keep calling him but off d phone!!
oledi bank-in rm560 for sony w55 camera!!
date: 820pm 11-5-2008
but will give him 1 week for the postage!!
if still not arrived..
report to the police!!!!!


This post has been edited by hudsons993: May 13 2008, 02:37 AM

Another ppl being cheated .
Is time to take action!
Those stay near PJ SS2 HELP US HUNTING HIM!
This useless fellow, CONMAN!

Again I must reiterate something.

Why do you guys keep giving him time? 1 week? If he doesn't call you or anything, then report police already. What are you guys waiting for?

You're holding onto a false hope that the item might be delayed. But if he is not accountable for that, then it is your right to assume the worst and take the appropriate action.

Stop whining here and say giving time lar this and that lar. Go make a police report first, then goto Maybank get his details. After that, post his details here if he still dun reply and we'll send his details out in mass email. Without his details we cant kantooi him ler.

Go go go!!!

Bro, you thought we have so much time to handle this kind useless fellow conman, now we have final exam and we don't have so much time to handle this fellow, make me no mood to study when this kind of case turning out, and how we know the fellow scam us like that. we cant predict it. SO after my exam i will lodge a report, this kind of fellow really make me waste my time + energy. after get his address i sure pay a visit to his house!

But i dunno whether his address will show his own house location or not, if can meet up with his parent then is good, let them know they got this kind of son, son of the bi***. If cant get him i really don't have much idea about this conman.

Any lyn member can join us together find this conman house, coz dunno where the location at KL, furthermore i need waste my expenses + time come from malacca to KL to hunting this conman.

Lastly, make me cant sleep well!!!

This post has been edited by solarwing: May 13 2008, 04:52 AM

good....next time, conman will target those "busy" students who are having exams, so they can cheat them and run away....

reporting to police only takes the most 1hr. Go to a smaller police station.

i actually call this person wanted to buy this hardisk 2.5

but the problem is i say i want to cod he already act wired, he say no such person.
and he speak malay to me, and does not seem understand english and i felt that he is so blur.

got typo error for that phone number. that one i also call before, not the conman.

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Added on May 13, 2008, 12:57 pmthe conman still active in this morning.
i think he don't want to reply any pm from us already.

This post has been edited by solarwing: May 13 2008, 12:57 PM

hey solarwing...
i'm deeply sorry about this, i'm myself COD with that guy to avoid scam. Actually, i had a deal with him since last monday, but because i was outstation and unable to meet him personally, i asked my brother to COD with him. It was until saturday night he met up with my lil bro @ PJ area.
he told my brother that he will be going to johor until this friday.

however, the harddisk wasn't turn out to be as good as you think. the casing was not properly fixed up, the screws is not the right one for the aluminium casing,(yet he told my bro that he purposely take out to show me the harddisk..what a lie, it;s actually the casing cannot close up in actual fact) while the cable itself is very loose and the harddisk often get disconnected due to poor cable connection.

i can't help you, i felt a bit cheat too, but what to do...i not free to come back...anyway, i'll get one external casing which cost around RM30-40...that's makes no differences from getting a new unit from lowyat...haha...damn sad.

Like I said, if you're really pissed off about this conman, then make a police report first. WIth that report you're free to do a lot of stuff, and that stuff is faxing it to maybank to request for the conman's identity. This can be done is less than half a day. Faster kau tim then we can wallop him mar. Otherwise, wait a few more weeks, our stim also gone already.

Ganbateh on your exams lar. In the meantime, everytime when I shit I will write his nick on the tissue paper and use it to wipe my butt.

Bro, provide me the conman h/p number for the 017 ASAP!

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Added on May 13, 2008, 3:09 pmlet's go wallop him together la.
if u stay KL come we go meet the conman together.
my stim still hot now. make me involve a lot of things!

This post has been edited by solarwing: May 13 2008, 03:09 PM

Eh dun like that. Wallop here wallop there pulak. Why you so violent? Your teacher didn't tell you got law say we cannot simply wallop people wan meh? Cannot, cannot. But then, who knows? When walking across the street can get bang by car... when eating can accidentally eat poison... when walking underneath an apartment can putih putih kena hit on the head by flower pot...

Dun la wallop him. But then again, we cannot prevent "accidents" from happening now once in a while right?

wa initially i wanted to buy the hdd frm him, lucky din. sori for yr bad luck

what to do. no need give face to this kind of conman. but if he bigger than me i scare i not dare to wallop him
anyway, those are staff,moderator,elite and lyn member pls give a hand, Did u all want this kind of cases increase? seems like no action being take by lyn member? nobody can assists me?
JUST WANNA SHOUT:

the moderators and staffs already warn all of us here prior to any trade;

1. Lowyat.NET is not responsible for any transactions conducted here.


You are reminded that the banking in of money to the account of somebody you do not know in the expectation of shipment is extremely risky and should not be practiced.

Those were copied from garage sales.

So dont try to blame the mods or staffs. You were reminded to do COD only. Other than that, it's at your own risk.

You cant expect the mods to go and knock the door of the conmen's house. They are not cops. Furthermore, this is not a full fledge trading website.

You want to give time to the conmen, that's up to you. Rather than wasting your time making noise here trying to blame other parties, better move your ass and report to the police station and then find the details at the bank. You lost your money, you cant expect others to try and recover the money for you.

And dont talk cock about trying to wallop the conmen blah blah blah. I've listened to these threats since like forever, and trust me, no one whacks anyone, even if they knew who the conmen were.

Stop wasting your time. Please.

About the walloping, please do understand that it was meant as a joke. We have laws in this country and there's no point in breaking it to get back at such a scum. I would rather do something more... satisfying.

No worries dude. I wasnt talking about u specifically, but it was directed to all of the people involved/posted in this section before. My point is; Jangan cakap besar, jangan cakap banyak, jangan buang masa. Terus pegi report polis. At least it is something than nothing. And please, dont blame the mods, staffs, lyn member or anyone else for that matter.

His quote;




This post has been edited by blackpc: May 14 2008, 09:10 AM

just need those ppl stay around KL if they can helplng me, if cant help sudah. tat's all.

You telling people to help you hunt without any detail? Who to hunt? Walk randomly in SS2 and catch anybody and assume he is the conman?

Why can't go lodge a report in police station first?
You yourself is wanted criminal ar?

finally someone smart enough to get my point. Really appreciate it man. Susah cakap dgn org x faham bahasa.

NEW INFO:
Another H/p No: 0173562402 ( Provided by lyn member, klifex )
A Police Report Had Been Lodge on 14 May 2008
For this h/p Number:
0173562402

Name: Loo Tze Ming
Address: 43, JALAN 21/31 SEA PART, PJ SELANGOR, PETALING JAYA.
IC No: 850815-07-5141

Suprising is both person are different, Maybe they are friend or what ever, Let see after the police visit ur house then what u going to say.



This post has been edited by solarwing: May 14 2008, 10:03 PM

How are you so sure that these 2 guys Chin Wei Hua & Loo Tze Ming are conman.

You only know the nick that you dealt with and the bank account.

There had been countless times Conman A tricked Victim B (in this case might be you) to bank in to Victim C (in this case might be those 2). Thus Victim C receive the money and send whatever Conman A requested.
This is just a hypothesis; so since you had the number and address, have you verified it with those guys before accusing them as Conman?!...

If you've spoken with the conman, surely you'll recognise the voice if you call up those numbers. That's one way of verifying though.


Disclaimer: I'm not saying those 2 are confirmed conman or not. Just a point to think about. Btw, don't know any of those listed here.

ya i know those case. but what i phone is those 2 number already out of service, at first i can confirm the 016 number is those con me, and after i get through more information, i get another 017 number where this number the conman deal with another fellow,lyn id is klifex, so i call this number, at first he did't pick up, but after try few days, this phone number already out of service.
So what i need more information is their address, as i know, for 016 number, it stay at ss2, Pj. And for 017 number, he stay at sea part, pj. both stay at same area and maybe are fren or wat ever.
so let me visit the conman in sea part there then i can know for his another fren.
Anyway report had made. So wait & see for further information.

so arrogant even i can help i wont help. We dont owe you our life. Learn to be humble and alot of people will help you.

This post has been edited by DiGi: May 15 2008, 01:26 PM

nvm..is ok.

wow... came across this forumer Before... but didnt get anything from me...
damm shit conman...
launch a police report man...

Anyway, police report had been made. but the maybank did't allowed me to take the conman detail! so how is it?

I've pm-ed you the possible procedures that can be taken for your case.

will do so. thx.

IF i not mistaken, the address is Section 21 Petaling Jaya, NOT SS2.

And the place is call "SEA PARK" NOT "Sea Part".

The place is somewhere near Paramount LRT station, P.J.

Try Use Wikimapia to find the location of the street.

This case involve 2 person, 1 at SS2 and 1 at sea park.

well, good luck with the number i gave you.
all the best to hunt the person down

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Added on May 15, 2008, 11:35 pmwell, good luck with the number i gave you.
all the best to hunt the person down

This post has been edited by klifex: May 15 2008, 11:35 PM

thanks for the information u provided. but now the number cant contact anymore, hope with the address i can find through it!

HAHAHA...so fast he cut the line....z.z.z.
i think he is really avoiding u all..

lol, if u free help us look through the house can?

wai..
i gonna make report tomolo..
and go ask his add at maybank!!
xbley thn lo ini olang..
wa mau stdy pn byk kacau..
cilake tul!!

bdwy, i noe sumone who work in maybank (kl area)..
but didnt hv his no...
try my best to find him!!!

Finally u appear here after i handle so much or things! i thought u don't want ur RM 560
Me also Exam and come toward to settle this conman.
make me cant concentrate, wait the police go kantooi sama dia.

i went to make report dis morning..
and went to maybank..
cant get his add lo..
only police were allowed to get his add!!
damn!!!

but the policeman do call the maybank..
maybank said that his IC no. or Acc. (if not mistaken) is from Sarawak..
he may b works around KL area..

bdw, police said that they will investigate dis case since got 2 "mangsa"
dis case will be sent to PJ head office..
they will trace the location where he cash-out and etc..

Now is 3 Mangsa la..
If from sarawak then is hard to go find, shall leave to police to investigate him.

so cham u two. who's the third mangsa?

funny with all the phone line registrations that the government implemented,

it is still so hard to find the damn owner of the line?!



anyway, good luck to u guys. hope u get your money back

and

if that feller did con u, he get what he deserves. (like being banged by a car or poisoned to death!)

3rd person still no appear utill now yet but he pm me and tell me his problem, maybe due to his money amount so small!
cant contact their number already , u got any idea to help us find the conman?

hurm..
cant do anything for now..
police will do the rest..
hopefully they give their BEST!!!

only pray to god..
HE can help us punished the CRAZYSELL3R
accident putus kaki sebelah..
kalau mati terus pn xpe..

actually this fella already got case in dispute center so long, how come u guys didnt realize?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/616910

after you've lodged a police report, bring over a copy of the report to maybank, and talk to the staff. they will give u the particulars if they're helpful.

nevermind, tmr i will go through mmu and search for his final exam detail, will come over to him and ask him. see what his respond later on.

Name: LOO TZE MING
Student ID: 1031117703
Course: Bachelor of Engineering(Honours)Electronics majoring in Computer
Source: google.com

我也有向CHIN WEI HUA 买了Motorola E6 ,卖价是RM550
从7号过帐到今天还没收到货.....

Make sure the conman have no chance to graduate.

ok this fellow, albertwkm is a victim too, he already explain his case to me. He had been conned by chin wei hua, to buy Motorola E6 cost RM550. payment made on 7may 08 but still no received any item until now.

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Added on May 19, 2008, 10:04 pmthanks for your information!

This post has been edited by solarwing: May 19 2008, 10:04 PM

I think we are talking about the same person here >>

pm from TM_MING: -

hey, May 14 2008, 04:39 PM
soli i went outstation last month , cant contact u abt e6
u still interested to cod ?

he, May 14 2008, 06:35 PM
bro u still wan e6?

hi, May 14 2008, 11:14 PM
bro . i got moto e6 are u still interested ??

Re:hi, May 14 2008, 11:18 PM
condition 99% no scratch.
bought around chinese new year
md ori set
wif box and full package ,
u offer me ur price

Re:hi, May 15 2008, 07:18 PM
wat ur phone nmbr?

good luck to you, whatever happens next ya.

This fellow no dare to pick up my phone, just dare to sms only, but din't give me any appropriate anwer yet..

guys, give u a tips

- track this guy by epf
- track this guy by maxis/digi

you can talk to epf pay them some $$ you can get his
employer detail, think 30 is enough

Already know he stay at where after track his h/p.
Don't u think this really waste our time+energy+money go to meet this kind of ppl.
I dunno what explaination will give by him if meet up with him.

haiz sad so many con case around i also getting less confidence d...

actually should we blame our bank-in system/procedure??

good luck TS in hunting...

no la please. all the mods and admins warned already. only never listen mar.

if u do cod, where got such problem occur wan?

It is impossbile for us to cod every place rite? if he really want con us what to do?

TM_Ming and crazysell3r have been assigned with dispute tag until their current dispute solved.

ok noted. But i think they won't appear already to come over solve their problem.
Deceive so manp ppl $$ still dare come here?

got some news from cari chinese forum saying he is living in sea park.

If you can read chinese, go here:
Cari Chinese thread

If need my translation, feel free to PM me.
Hope it'll help you.

lol bro, u blind already? that one is i post up la..
who dunno he live at sea park, i think u not read on 1st post!

Chill dude , he was trying to help u =.=

Btw , he just ... Joined: April 2008

Clearly COD is preferred ...


This post has been edited by shymx: May 22 2008, 11:37 AM

thx for the info.

Neway , hope u`ll get back ur money .. scammers shud be taught a lesson that they will never forget.

i think is hard, but will try our best!



This post has been edited by solarwing: May 22 2008, 09:13 PM

well, with this kind of attitude, no wonder not much peoples give a shit bout u.

and if you have no time to do COD, this is the risk you have to bear. its your choice. Its already stated in the forum heading that you shall not bank in to other, and you blame the mod summore. probly you the the thats blind?

that is my choice then, i dun my repeat my Q&A to those who not willing understand my situation.

Please act maturely and politely with your words.

ok noted!

hi my friend...
sorry about what you all been tru...
so, what's the progress now??? have the police take any action?
really wish these conmen go jail and get rotan...

I think police won't take action, maybe few year later?
so i need ur help currently to be my witness.

gerr...
police also cannot help..
might take a while for them to find him..
really must go there again n push them..
sigh~

What to do..
Anyway, i finish my exam already..
U ready already tell me..

hey mate. chill out, be cool, smart, intelligent people, learn from mistakes. astala vista baby

P.S.: in part of ur sig, u should put crazysell3r, not some names. people will not recognize him. cause i can say Chaw Roti Canai is crazysell3r .

well, u got ur card oledi. so, u got the enjoyment there. btw, track this guy, i'll allow you to kill him

new info updates..

"Hey Guys, this number 0162734566 what we have deal/contact with this fellow from beginning actually is register under Loo Tze ming after check through Digi Centre, overall, this conman is either use other people account to conned our money. so what's next...?"

wut the f@k
i think the master mind is LOO TZE MING..
he used his frenz to blind us!!!
even his mother also komplot wit him!!
bull$-hit!!

This post has been edited by hudsons993: May 29 2008, 01:33 AM

hey, actually i know a bit about finance law...
i have my own lawyer, i told him a bit about the situation here...

Money which is banked into an account with an unknown origin, or money which is received in bank from a unknown/mistransaction, can be refund by bank with the evidence of.
1. receipient admit the money is unknown origin.(or he doesnt know the source)
2. the person who bank the money have the proof of transaction.
3. lodge a police report
4. solve this problem with the bank.

You don't need to go and find the person yourself, police and bank can settle this issue for you as long as you have the proof of transaction( anyway, this is the how you use the receipt of transaction when you want to undo something).
money with an unknown origin can be classified as bribe...

if he admit that he posted out the items, he must have proof of postage(trace number etc)..if he failed to provide proof, then you can claim back all your money, or at least, dun let the bad guy to have to money, frozen his account until investigations done.

so, i guess i'll choose to frozen his bank account until he strave to dead...hahha

Is it have to lodge another report?how about previous report had been made?
Shall i report to the DAP?

as far as i know, every bank have their own finance consultant. They can help you in issuing a wrong transaction which may help you to claim the money back.
try to check out with the bank which u transfered your money...
get back the money is a priority...
or at least, get his account frozen and investigate...haha... this will keep him starved for a few weeks to months...(i'm so bad)
that's my lawyer told me... good luck.

ok thanks for ur info. will make it soon.

ic..but right...the recipient can say that we owe him money or we bet football.he lost so pay the money..or watever soft of reason can be used wo..so at the end no use also..haih...yea, if that conman keluar the wang liao,,how to pay back oh?freeze account also useless leh...ask ur lawyer see got better way a not to counter this situation..


This post has been edited by dragon88: May 29 2008, 07:20 PM

U just join on May 2008 already had dispute tag, so fast..
what is ur problem then?

well, my lawyer says, if you know your account has money with unknown origin, yet you choose to use it, it is consider illegal..
what the proof of telling it's illegal money? just show them the sms you received from the guy which direct you to bank into the bank account, the guy's name, and all the details you obtain including the phone number ownerships.
with multiple people involved in this case, it's a very strong evidence to says the origin of the money is "illegal".
just tell all the others to show the same proofs, receipts of money transaction...
i'm sure you can frozen the account within a week.

account will be suspended immediately after investigation starts/or as soon as evidence enough to support the origin of money is illegal or mistransaction. (even if he say bet bola, you also need to show proof of payment right? because all these need proof, which verbal is not use as evidence)
there will be no early notice for this, that's why the receipient wont have enough time to transfer the money. (if not, everyone will do the same before the account get frozen, then what for to froze the account? get me?)

This post has been edited by klifex: May 29 2008, 08:50 PM

WTF...wat kind of mother does that??? acted like nothing happeds?? F~!
tell her when ur son inside rotting in jail...dun come and beg to drop the charge

he is a lam chang nam(beware of him)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=17623026

more about
lam cham nam..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=604383&hl=lam
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=486747&hl=lam
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=669021&hl=lam
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/464122

This post has been edited by hanissyazwan: Jun 2 2008, 02:53 AM

Thx for reminding.

so, how's the progress?? have u ask the police about their investigations? (u know, MALAYSIAN policemen.. must be reminded always)..

Ask already . still not in process. waiting for news.

hmm..
waiting 4 police to investigate this case.......
not sure if they manage to settle our problems..
damn!!
hwa...my $$$$$$...

what to do..somebody