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 2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda

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post May 13 2008, 06:17 PM

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I will choose Mazda 6 for sure, better handling~!!!!
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post May 13 2008, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(different_view @ May 13 2008, 05:50 PM)
Hi,

We are comparing M6 with Accord simply because they are in the same price range and incidentally are being launched at around the same time.

Both cars are NOT meant for racing (Track days etc).

We don't NEED twin piping other than for (arguable) aesthetic purposes.

M6 handbrake is on the LHS of the center console (where the cup holders and gear lever is).
As such, the driver has to reach across almost to the edge of the front passenger seat side edge to use the handbrake.

Current CRV is not underpowered until you drive the 2.4L version (unfortunately not available in Msia ... yet)

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Added on May 13, 2008, 5:54 pm

No 1.8L for M6

The 2.0L M6 is RM147,913 On the road including insurance.
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oh, the first thing comes to my mind when you think of M6 is BMW M6
that's why i'm wondering, why you're mentioning about BMW M6
LOL my bad
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post May 13 2008, 06:42 PM

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The Mazda6, they have 1.8diesel but i suppose they do not have it in malaysia. And when i read through the comparison, i think the writer is more on the Honda side than the Mazda. Try compare 2.0 with 2.0 and see the result. Overall for Mazda, the interior is far more complete with electronics while the accord is improved from the previous version.
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post May 13 2008, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(BMW7 @ May 13 2008, 06:17 PM)
I will choose Mazda 6 for sure, better handling~!!!!
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I agree that the M6 (NOT the one with 507 BHP ... lol) handles better ... only just.

Managed to do some serious (for Msian roads standard, not test track) cornering during the test drive,

The M6 turns in faster into corners (only just). Considering the much bigger Accord, it too performs almost on par with the M6.
Both gets out of corners with plenty of power in reserve.

However, on most HWY trips (say KL to Ipoh), I suspect both drivers and passengers of the M6 will feel more exhausted than those sitting in the Accord.

The M6 is a SLIGHTLY better stop-go and zig-zag around traffic and around corners kind of car ... but the Accord is definitely the better long distance cruiser.



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post May 13 2008, 06:47 PM

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hmm.. you were saying that by comparing the new accord with old m6? well my friend, do you know that they adjusted the sit to a more comfortable than the old m6? i read this from some article about the changes from the old m6 to this current version. Also, it is more comfortable for the driver as the steering is placed more upright.
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post May 13 2008, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(boysrule @ May 13 2008, 06:42 PM)
The Mazda6, they have 1.8diesel but i suppose they do not have it in malaysia. And when i read through the comparison, i think the writer is more on the Honda side than the Mazda. Try compare 2.0 with 2.0 and see the result. Overall for Mazda, the interior is far more complete with electronics while the accord is improved from the previous version.
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Yups no diesel for Mazda 6. No hatch or wagon for that matter. Only 1 leather trim and 2 colours for each engine size.

I am not comparing the 2.0Ls because I am not planning to get any.

Having not tested the M6 2.0L, I can't comment much.

Although a quick glance at equipment list, the M6 2.0L is ahead of the Accord 2.0L (NOTE: The Accord 2.0L is 6k Cheaper).

I haven't decided which car to get (it will be one of those 2). Both are very good but built with different philosophy and purpose.

Hopefully with more discussion I can decide which will be most suitable for my needs smile.gif


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Added on May 13, 2008, 6:54 pm
QUOTE(boysrule @ May 13 2008, 06:47 PM)
hmm.. you were saying that by comparing the new accord with old m6? well my friend, do you know that they adjusted the sit to a more comfortable than the old m6? i read this from some article about the changes from the old m6 to this current version. Also, it is more comfortable for the driver as the steering is placed more upright.
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All of the comparison that I've made is between the 2008 Mazda 6 2.5L (NEW) and 2008 Honda Accord 2.4L (NEW).

This post has been edited by different_view: May 13 2008, 06:54 PM
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post May 13 2008, 07:01 PM

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OMG... just now spotted a Madza 6 purple light colour...

it's so damm pretty.
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post May 13 2008, 07:02 PM

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Managed to see the interior of the Honda 2008 over the weekend, and I must say that I was disappointed after all the rave reviews by friends. Really was expecting more. Hope to test drive soon. Haven't seen the M6 yet.
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ahh.. ok good.. btw, you really need to try the madza6 and take it for a long distance if you really want to know the result that you conclude. And if you are looking for either one of the car, just keep it to yourself which you prefer and the budget you can afford. Nobody cant tell you how good is this, how good is that and ask you to choose the either one.
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post May 13 2008, 07:12 PM

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it's finally up to individual decision.
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post May 13 2008, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(boysrule @ May 13 2008, 07:03 PM)
ahh.. ok good.. btw, you really need to try the madza6 and take it for a long distance if you really want to know the result that you conclude. And if you are looking for either one of the car, just keep it to yourself which you prefer and the budget you can afford. Nobody cant tell you how good is this, how good is that and ask you to choose the either one.
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Yups ! At the end of the day it's up to moi smile.gif

I've tested the Accord 3 times. The last one over 20 minutes drive at the Putrajaya HWY.

Tested the Mazda 6 for about 15 minutes around Fed Hwy and back.

Looking forward to test more of the Mazda 6 (they only have 3 dealership sad.gif so must use my test drives opportunity sparingly hehehe)
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post May 14 2008, 02:59 PM

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Added on May 14, 2008, 3:14 pm
QUOTE(different_view @ May 13 2008, 07:37 PM)
Yups ! At the end of the day it's up to moi smile.gif

I've tested the Accord 3 times. The last one over 20 minutes drive at the Putrajaya HWY.

Tested the Mazda 6 for about 15 minutes around Fed Hwy and back.

Looking forward to test more of the Mazda 6 (they only have 3 dealership sad.gif so must use my test drives opportunity sparingly hehehe)
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10bhp less RM7k more and roadtax higher.. izzit worth hmm.gif

if me i'll buy err.. i also in dilemma doh.gif

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post May 14 2008, 05:35 PM

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i prefer CBU than CKD melaka..so its a mazda...zoom zoom!!! drool.gif
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post May 14 2008, 06:43 PM

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i got my sigi since Sept 07 and today i seen the Mazda6 in its full glory. Just as my sigi spanking shiny white.

the old 6 look best in its white 2.4 version but this new 6 just top it all. However, still can't get used to the oversize fog lamp insert. I think there is a market for Mazda if BerMaz can do it properly. All 2.5 6 sold out now. i have to say, the 2.0 version feels rather el-cheapo. At over RM140k the kit level is just not up to the competition. I mean... even Proton have stereo control on steering but a RM140k without...!!!

all 2.5 6 sold. 2 CX9 gone <- this one is close to RM300k...!!!. Malaysian are RICH but i am not.... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(demio121 @ May 14 2008, 06:43 PM)
i got my sigi since Sept 07 and today i seen the Mazda6 in its full glory.  Just as my sigi spanking shiny white.

the old 6 look best in its white 2.4 version but this new 6 just top it all.  However, still can't get used to the oversize fog lamp insert.  I think there is a market for Mazda if BerMaz can do it properly.  All 2.5 6 sold out now.  i have to say, the 2.0 version feels rather el-cheapo.  At over RM140k the kit level is just not up to the competition.  I mean... even Proton have stereo control on steering but a RM140k without...!!!

all 2.5 6 sold.  2 CX9 gone <- this one is close to RM300k...!!!.  Malaysian are RICH but i am not....  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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wat is the price for the mazda 6?


Added on May 14, 2008, 7:56 pm
QUOTE(different_view @ May 13 2008, 10:44 AM)
Hi Klangboy,

1. Engine performance:
Outright Power to weight ratio, the Accord wins (180ps/1525kg = 0.1180 Vs. 170ps/1469kg = 0.1157).
BUT, the M6 Torque is 226 and kicks in at 4000 rpm whereby the Accord is 222 at 4300 rpm (plus weight penalty)

Starting off the line the M6 feels more urgent. Definitely very snappy off the start.
The Accord on the other hand feels less powerful off the line but you get smoother (albeit slower) power delivery.

I got to test the M6 around federal Hwy and the Accord to Putrajaya Hwy. Both with clear traffic and managed to reach 140 km/h on each car.

0-40 km/h, the M6 feels faster (a little bit) but past 100km/h the Accord still has plenty in reserve. The Accord power kicks in at preety high rpm 6500 + ... so you really have to drive with a lead foot to see all 180ps.

2. Ride Comfort
M6 definitely is the sportier (harsher) ride. Steering is heavy at high speed (good) and you feel lots of feed back from the road in terms of both steering feel and vibration. Tyre noise is also more apparent. But all these adds to the sportier experience when you consider the body hugging bucket seats, small steering wheel, various noises and feedback.

Accord has a more balanced ride (Between Camry's soft, almost floaty ride and M6 Sporty ride). Off the line and at low speed, the Accord behaves like a 5-series (My dad has one 525i so I drive it quite a bit). As you pick up speed, the Accord feels just sporty enough without sacrificing comfort. It also feels a lot smaller than its size suggest (which is always a good thing). Comfortable bucket-like seat (side support all the way up your side torso), small diameter steering wheel, slight tyre rumble and low seating (i think you seat lower in the Accord than the M6) all adds to the sporty experience.

Both cars were tested with 4 ppl (3 of whom sat in both cars, the salesman being the only variable). All rear seat passengers agree that the Accord is a more comfortable place in the back. Lots of space (Much more leg and headroom), large seats, and more comfortable overall. Front passenger gives similar feedback.

Performance over bumps. Unfortunately, i tested both cars on the Hwy. No bumps i could recall. Over the speed bumps that we come across, the Accord is much smoother over it and quieter too.

3. NVH Level
In terms of cabin insulation from tyre noise and wind noise, the Accord is noticeably better than the M6. However, the accord engine noise intrudes more into the cabin than the M6. Moreover, the M6 engine sounds better so i think i got less irritated by it than the Accord's smile.gif

The accord sales man suggested trading in the stock tyres for Michelin ones smile.gif

More specific questions ?  smile.gif

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mind to share the price list of M6?
u have a very good review ...


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QUOTE(Travies @ May 14 2008, 07:48 PM)
wat is the price for the mazda 6?
Mazda6 2.0 = RM143,933 (without insurance)
Mazda6 2.5 = RM170,888 (without insurance)
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QUOTE(demio121 @ May 14 2008, 06:43 PM)
i got my sigi since Sept 07 and today i seen the Mazda6 in its full glory.  Just as my sigi spanking shiny white.

the old 6 look best in its white 2.4 version but this new 6 just top it all.  However, still can't get used to the oversize fog lamp insert.  I think there is a market for Mazda if BerMaz can do it properly.  All 2.5 6 sold out now.  i have to say, the 2.0 version feels rather el-cheapo.  At over RM140k the kit level is just not up to the competition.  I mean... even Proton have stereo control on steering but a RM140k without...!!!

all 2.5 6 sold.  2 CX9 gone <- this one is close to RM300k...!!!.  Malaysian are RICH but i am not....  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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hahhaa.. so u wan a 2.5cc mazda 6?.. but i think its too big right sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Travies @ May 14 2008, 07:48 PM)
wat is the price for the mazda 6?


Added on May 14, 2008, 7:56 pm

mind to share the price list of M6?
u have a very good review ...
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Hi Travies,

M6 2.0L is 143,933 + 3,979 (Insurance) = 147,912.90 (Amt covered 143,000)
M6 2.5L is 170,888 + 4,682 (Insurance) = 175,570.20 (Amt covered 169,000)

Note for both insurance in the event that you totaled or lost your car due to theft, the insurance company will reimburse the FULL insured amount (if the incident occur within the first year).

The insurance company for Honda Accord will compensate based on mkt value at time of accident/theft. So, your full insurance amount gets depleted from day 1.


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mazda is more appealing..the oni thing i dont like bout mazda is their stock rear light is using those crystal type(prev gen mazda 6 also same)
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QUOTE(jasonlim @ May 15 2008, 12:15 AM)
mazda is more appealing..the oni thing i dont like bout mazda is their stock rear light is using those crystal type(prev gen mazda 6 also same)
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the new 6 crystal rear light design is quite nice. its not a glaring as the old 6. the rear light in the old 6 was one of those thing that i couldn't figure out why.... at least for the facelift 2.3 version, Mazda decide to blacken it.

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