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genkis3
post Jul 23 2008, 06:15 PM

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maybe u guys didn't read the links or get what beach boy means?
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post Aug 5 2008, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(- f 0 7 - @ Aug 4 2008, 08:34 PM)
Hmm, have u ever drive the new accord?? Yeah, for certain peeps, it looks odd..  but its all about handling, power & drivability. For its value, its worth buying and good resale value too.. and for sure, its far better than camry.. Mazda6 fun to drive, smooth power delivery, great handling (but it still can't beat the 3 series), and it has an attractive design inside and out, availability of versatile hatchback body style...However, the engines are less powerful and fuel efficient are not so good than other competitors..
agree accord have better engine but dont forget it's heavy as well. performance wise, i read somewhere review m6 better than accord in 0-100kmh.

i've test drive the new accord 2.4L, i feel my gen7 accord better handling wor... power delivery not much different with my gen7 2.4L although new one have 180ps. just my own feeling with test drive for around 20mins.

regarding fuel efficient, m6 2.5l almost same like accord 2.4l with only minimal 1-2% different perhaps. ask the owners here to list out the FC u will know.

i don't expect m6 handling will better than 3 series, different league i think.
u also feel funny when someone compare it with evo10 right?

for me, i just can't resist those many extra from mazda 6 2.5L compare with accord 2.4L.
made in Japan,
fully auto sunroof,
rain sensor wiper,
3 preset memory seat,
advanced keyless entry,
"push star" ignition system,
auto dimming rear view mirror,
BOSE sound system with subwoofer,
18" sports rim,
more handsome sporty look(it's up to personal preference).

u should take a serious look and test drive the new m6, maybe u'll fall in love with it too. wub.gif wub.gif

just my own opinion la... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 6 2008, 01:12 AM

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omg... this is what honda fans bashes style? i always feel honda especially accord owner must be mature enough... geesshh... im accord owner as well.

this is not a healthy discussion anymore , i think mod should close this thread.
since the TS not here anymore.
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post Aug 6 2008, 01:51 AM

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everyone have their own point of view and choise, so we mustn't call other stupid for what they choose.

read the topic here b4 post, we compare only m6 2.5 & accord 2.4. not with those lambo,ferrari,wrx,audi bla bla bla...


guys(both side supporters),
keep the healthy discussion pls. no personal attack like call others stupid or un-constructive nonsense talk.

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post Aug 6 2008, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Aug 6 2008, 08:26 PM)
we should bring in the real Munich here
at least Munich backs his claim with statements and 'facts', of which is actually hilarious, and not blind bashing tongue.gif
it'll be fun tongue.gif
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IMHO, Munich is a class above. atleast he do homework to support his statement.
maybe , LYN average forumer ages is younger than motortrader. wink.gif

really speechless for all the spam since page24.
perhaps im too old for forum-ing here, 1978 old man consider outdated gua...now is new trend liao. laugh.gif
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post Aug 8 2008, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 7 2008, 10:10 PM)

3. Most powerful engine in its class
Power is ample for the Accord

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it got most powerful engine but from magazine review, it's performance lost to mazda 6 less powerful engine. maybe due to m6 have impressive drag coefficient of 0.27 and lighter body weight.


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post Aug 10 2008, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 9 2008, 04:50 PM)
original brake pads on the older Mazda6 that have lasted up to 100k km. This is under strong braking and usage.
100k km is seriously good la... my current accord brakepad only last for around 30k km.

QUOTE(iceman08 @ Aug 9 2008, 06:12 PM)
Mazda 6 price increase another RM3k again.....at RM178k now!!genkis, have you book your car? Looks like Mazda didnt want to get too close to the Accord/Camry... tongue.gif and to Billy, you should be happy to hear this news...
already booked 1month ago. tongue.gif
is that means the price will stick to july price ? coz they just gave me receipt of rm5k deposit, didn't stated the price of car wor....

QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 9 2008, 10:57 PM)
Not much you can do about the airbags, steering, push/start engine or the wipers but you can improve the audio and add in remote keyless entry for the Accord. Sunroof is nice but I'm sure it's not something the people will miss greatly.

In regards to modification, there are 3 things that you can do to improve the Mazda 6 (or whatever car).

1. Adding a voltage stabilizer + grounding kit
Doing this will improve your battery life and improve your audio and electronics. My battery lasted 2 years which was well past its 1 year replacement date! I can tell you you will notice an improvement in the clarity of your audio and slight improvement to the interior illumination (brightness). Either go with the Pivot brand or if you are willing to spend the premium - go for the Hot Inazama Hyper ground kit, it will improve your engine power by 2 to 3 hp. Won't void your warranty as it's an add-in item that does no modification at all to the engine. I personally used the pivot stuff so I can say it's a good product. It's also supposed to save fuel but I don't really see much difference.

2. Adding a tower brace bar (if its not available)
The car have better cornering characteristics, you feel less body roll (like you're flying to one side when cornering)

3. Foaming and soundproofing
by modify the audio, remote keyless for accord gonna cost u rm5k-10k. and the remote keyless gonna void the warranty.

i never try voltage stabilizer, but i did use car audio capasitor which similiar to voltage stabilizer. it did help in light dimming. i have grounding kit in my car and it's just a myth in my opinion.

autofoam look interesting, thanks for info. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 10 2008, 06:50 PM)

8th Gen Accord like previous gen Accord uses timing belt. That's another plus point for the Mazda6 that uses timing chain.
Their Malaysian website sucks. Honda's website anytime better and more informative.  smile.gif

Fuel tank on the Accord is 70 litres while the Mazda6 is 64 litres. The Accord is able to use RON 91 fuel is required unlike the Mazda6 which strictly mentions RON 95 minimum. Kerb weight is 1450kg for Mazda6 while it's 1515kg for the Accord.
i was told my 7gen accord using timing chain... which is true?
if 7gen using chain, 8gen will be the same.

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post Aug 11 2008, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 10 2008, 06:50 PM)
Kerb weight is 1450kg for Mazda6 while it's 1515kg for the Accord.
i think mazda6 kerb weight is only 1355kg.
spec


Added on August 11, 2008, 12:03 am
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 10 2008, 11:43 PM)
I suggest you drive your car for 3 months without the radio on, then bite the bullet and do the foaming and then drive your car again, the difference wil be very obvious. I have never looked back ever since after foaming, the feeling is just too god.

Add: One rather cheap mod you can do is fill your car with nitrogen gas. The car will feel a lot lighter once you do that and there will be a slight reduction of road noise from tires (1dBA difference).
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how much autofoam charge?

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post Aug 11 2008, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 11 2008, 12:31 AM)
You may be right on this one and I may be wrong. Can you check in your owner's manual to see if there's anything on the manual that states about timing chain belt?
i doubt i still can find my owner manual sweat.gif biggrin.gif


Added on August 11, 2008, 1:30 am
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 11 2008, 12:57 AM)

M: Advanced Keyless Entry with illuminated welcome mode upon entry
A: Standard keyless entry (?)
accord dont have keyless entry. smile.gif


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post Aug 13 2008, 03:26 AM

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taiwan Accord is different spec with malaysia. malaysia accord got no bluetooth. abt built quality of taiwan accord... better than malaysia? i guess so.

if im not mistaken, taiwan mazda 6 2.5 is lower spec than malaysia mazda 6 2.5... the one i remember is taiwan without keyless entry...

correct me if im wrong.
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post Aug 13 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Aug 13 2008, 11:04 AM)
There are actually more features in this Mazda 6 thats not avail here like tyre pressure monitoring, navigation, 4WD, remote power window, RVM - warn you on vehicle coming from behind and side while traveling at high speed...another feature is where the car alerts you when travel above certain speed and approaching very near to a car in front of you just like a plane that warn the pilot with different buzzer according to distance...
too bad malaysia dont have option to get those nice features. i don't mind pay higher price to get those features such as tyre pressure monitoring, RVM, Dynamic Radar Cruise Control...
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post Aug 13 2008, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 13 2008, 09:55 PM)
Like that might as well get the Lexus IS 250 at 300k lor...  sweat.gif Got Mark Levinson audio some more.  biggrin.gif
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found the taiwan mazda web, it didn't stated got BOSE sound system and auto sensor wiper.
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post Aug 14 2008, 11:33 AM

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sit inside IS250 and u'll feel younger by 10yrs brows.gif
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 15 2008, 01:24 PM)

Prices:
Mazda 6 2.5L: RM174,516.20 (OTR)
Accord 2.4L: RM171,800.00 (OTR)
Camry 2.4V: RM170,545.09 (OTR)

Mazda 6 2/5: rm178,359.00
just increase rm3k .

i think this is not a wise move for bermaz.
with rm7k different, it will pulling off those who tempting to get M6 but worry abt resale value,service centre and now having hard decision to choose betweem more polular T&H brand or mazda. now higher % they will choose T or H.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 17 2008, 04:47 PM)

I dunno about you guys, but I would gladly trade-in the rain sensing wipers, auto-sensing headlights, 18" wheels and paddle shift for better leather seats (Nappa) and good windshield tinting (Llumar, Vkool) as a standard because those 2 items would have a much higher comfort value.
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tinting and better leather seat can always get from shop, but those rain sensing wiper,auto headlight,paddle shift can't. only chance is get from bermaz. but i doubt bermaz will have optional install those gadget. if they have, i think many 2.0l m6 owner will tempting to upgrade their underspec m6.
so in my opinion, i rather get tinting and better leather seat from shop myself than losing other features in car. except 18" wheels, coz i feel after market wheels look better.
the owner of m6 said the leather seat is consider higher grade than accord,but i dono how's it compare with Nappa.
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post Aug 18 2008, 08:41 PM

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there's 7k different, not 8k.

it'll makes ppl think twice for the gap, that's y i said bermaz decided to increase 3k is not a wise move.

but if i have a chance to choose again, i'll still choose m6.
i think it's worth the 7k extra. the BOSE sound system i think already cost 7k already. and not forget the name of "CBU". also it has the features i like... sunroof, keyless entry,push start,BOSE audio... that's just me. tongue.gif

if someone look for comfortable ride, think should go for accord or camry. i'll choose camry for comfy ride.


from what i know, HID is different with halogen.




Kcng,
i feel 18" more match with the m6 sporty look ler. just change to better design rims and the car will look thumbup.gif


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post Aug 19 2008, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 19 2008, 04:08 AM)
Well, certain people do not think it's worth it just because Camrys and Accords that are selling around the same price do not have them. Therefore these other equipments normally found on premium cars like Lexus and BMW are considered as worth nothing on a car like Mazda6.  biggrin.gif
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but really some ppl will feel those features useless to them. no right or wrong, one man's meat is another man's poison ma.
like those who choose toyota comfy drive will hard to accept mazda sporty tune. my dad feel his friend's C-class crappy compare to camry coz of it's firm ride. makes me lol when he told me, but he got his point base on comfy ride rite... biggrin.gif. so i think it's hard to compare cars with different charactor. it's all up to personal preference.

i heard nissan already increase their car price, and toyota gonna raise their price too. i think honda will follow them very soon. same to our proud local brand car with no special discount now. correct me if im wrong.



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post Aug 19 2008, 07:58 PM

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as zweimmk said, the rain sensing wiper and auto light only cost a little, why still T & H take it out to save cost(or i can say to make more profit). that's cheapskate in my mind...

the volvo s40 is still old model? feel the design nothing change...
it's really catch my eyes of the price of rm170,950 without insurance. safety of this car is nuff said thumbup.gif . comes with dynaudio speakers somemore! but the exterior design not my cup of tea.

mazda 6 and volvo s40 already set a new standard for the car of this price range, think H & T will change their strategy in next new model. it's good for us as end consumer.
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post Aug 19 2008, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Aug 19 2008, 08:27 PM)
IIRC the dynaudio setup is an optional extra
few weeks before this federal auto was doing an promotion to clear up their company cars, 6months old s40 at 20k off biggrin.gif
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just browse thru volvo web, it stated without dynamic stability and traction control, dynaudio also not included ohmy.gif
not impressive anymore. yawn.gif
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post Aug 28 2008, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Aug 28 2008, 10:20 AM)
ShiBaL, thks for reminding me..totally forgotten and congrat...The Mazdaspeed emblem with me now. I ordered 6 to get the price at RM90 each. Already stick it below the 2.5 emblem in my car. Jchue, billy, genkis and all M6 owners, you guys interested? Please..otherwise I will be stuck with all these emblem with me...maybe we should get Lowyat kaki like jchue, genkis, billy for drink together..

I hv the solution on the wind noise already...not perfect but it helps to reduce a bit. Just buy a silicon spray and spray it on the door rubber seal..those guys at autofoam did it on my car..
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i still have not see how bad the ori emblem. anyone have picture to compare both emblem?
im penangites , it's far to having drink with u guys. biggrin.gif


Added on August 28, 2008, 11:46 am
QUOTE(iceman08 @ Aug 28 2008, 10:20 AM)
I hv the solution on the wind noise already...not perfect but it helps to reduce a bit. Just buy a silicon spray and spray it on the door rubber seal..those guys at autofoam did it on my car..
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this is interesting, may i know what type of silicon spray? like those use to seal the glass? hardware shop got?


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