QUOTE(verx @ May 8 2008, 05:40 PM)
You may keep dismissing it but whether we like it or not there isn't a huge market over here for the Italian or Spanish game. They just don't see the returns.
Let us assume for a moment it is only a language thing. I do listen to logic and the reason I keep bringing this up is because I see potential for other leagues to really penetrate the Asian market if they really wanted to. David Beckham signing for Real Madrid is one such example. While one player might not make a world of difference, what if a few Premiership favourites were to cross over? What if the Spanish were to employ former Premiership players to do their English commentary? All I'm suggesting it isn't impossible if they thought it was important enough. Maybe they don't?
QUOTE(mokhzaini @ May 8 2008, 09:42 PM)
other than arsenal fans,
dont be too soon shouting joy at arsenal's expense
they still can get through this homegrown thing easily.
see what arsene has done for few years? taking cheap talented african natives at young age and train them at arsenal. then we got some people like armand traore, that lanky no 4 (whats his name, forgot edi), eboue, bretner, et. al.
For starters I'm not taking the piss out of any club. I am only addressing your statement because you brought it up and it reminded me of an article I read regarding African football players.
Here you go. I found the bolded statement particularly interesting :
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Africa's football 'slave trade'
By the BBC's Jon Sopel in Paris
Unscrupulous agents are bringing young African footballers to Europe and dumping them if they fail to make the grade, prompting a French official to dub the practice "the new slave trade".
France is in the vanguard of trying to outlaw soccer clubs paying for players under the age of 18 in an effort to halt the trade in young African hopefuls.
In Africa many youngsters act out their fantasy of being top stars, like one group of schoolchildren I saw having a kick-around in the Ivory Coast.
They play barefoot in the heat of the afternoon - two rocks serve as goalposts - all dreaming of one day being a top professional in Europe.
"I want to play in Europe," says one boy, "and make lots of money to send to my family".
"In Europe," says another 12-year-old, "I would play for Manchester or PSG [Paris St Germain]."
Disciplined regime
At the Paris St Germain training ground just outside Paris, there are many young African players going through their paces.
They all have agents and are well looked after by the club and put up in a smart hostel.
There is a disciplined regime of football in the mornings and schooling in the afternoon.
Bartholemew Ogbeche is 15 and was playing for the Nigerian Youth team when he was spotted and offered the chance to come to PSG.
He admits he knew little of what he was signing up to, but counts himself lucky that he is at a big club.
The question is how to protect youngsters who don't know what they are letting themselves in for.
Michele Benguigui is one of France's top agents, and brought David Ginola to Spurs from Newcastle.
He says the law needs to be tightened with stricter licensing of who can be a soccer agent.
Easy prey
Until then, he says, children will be easy prey.
"What child can resist a grown-up promising fame and riches?" he says.
We tracked down a young West African boy who was brought to France with precisely that hope of greatness.
When he was interviewed last November he had just arrived and the dream burned bright.
But he hasn't made the grade. His club has discarded him.
His agent doesn't want to know, and he was too scared to give us an interview, because he is now living as an illegal immigrant in fear of arrest.
The new slave trade
There are thought to be hundreds more like him and it is this which the French Government is determined to stamp out.
Gilles Smadga, the chief of staff to the sports minister, calls it "the new slave trade" and says it has to be stopped.
The new law will prevent cash transfers for children under the age of 18 with restrictions on the activities of both agents and clubs in their ability to put young adolescents under contract.
Smadga says what brought this to public attention was not only the treatment of African youngsters but the case of a 15-year-old French boy, Jeremy Allaniere, who was bought by Arsenal for FF1m.
It caused an enormous furore in France, and at the time Arsene Wenger said he may not have had ethics on his side, but said he had the law.
The French are determined that the law too must be called in to protect young hopefuls.
A matter of morality I suppose. African being an impoverished nation is being exploited. Anyone watch the movie, "Blood Diamond"? It's not legally wrong to buy a diamond but knowing what measures could have been taken to obtain it might play on the conscience of some.
QUOTE(mokhzaini @ May 8 2008, 09:42 PM)
he also got some young englishmen at his youth set up, which is i think a good and brilliant thing to do. clubs will struggle to buy decent english players at decent price. what happening now is, DECENT english players SELL on big money.
remember Rooney, SWP?
i am sure rooney is a money well spent, but SWP?
Most clubs would like to have some English blood in their veins. I'm just curious though. Who are the English youth players you are referring to? Many youth teams have a large number of English players, naturally being England and all but how many do you reckon will graduate to the senior side? It's cheaper to buy proven foreign talent than it is to invest in one English player hoping he'd make the grade. It's the same problem faced by the other Premiership sides. At Liverpool we are hoping the likes of Hobbs and Anderson will make the grade but the last time someone broke through to the senior side was Stephen Warnock and even then we sold him to Blackburn.
This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 9 2008, 11:12 AM