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yewkhuay
post May 24 2008, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 24 2008, 12:01 AM)
oh... u applied MBB Amex? 

btw, i saw this when shop at the Jasco just now. the wired thing is, Maybank is Jasco's Bank, but why Citibank managed to do their promotion there?



if im not wrong, Jasco One Utama got the Visa Wave device, while Jasco Wangsa Maju still dun have.  sad.gif
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they call to offer, since i m replacing my maybank flex (it's only 8months old from previous replacement , but oready torn ..), then might as well give it a try.
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post May 24 2008, 12:40 AM

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being a daily use card, it should be proud to retire b4 expiry....
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 26 2008, 11:04 AM)
@hye,
Sis and I were just having a conversation last night about banks.  Apprently, UOB called the house for verification [we figured dad must've swipped a large amount & know he wouldn't pick up unregistered calls when he's abroad].  Apparently all they wanted to know was whether dad was overseas.  The bank had refused to let us know how much he swiped [which is fine] but when we asked what currency the bank just repeated their question and asked if dad was overseas.  It was when we said he was in Korea that the bank officer told us that he had swiped some korean won *doh* [and that's not even true cause dad swiped it all in USD!]

Anyhow, sis was just saying - the next time a bank calls, she's going to ask them to verify they're really from the bank:-
1) What's my father's name?
2) What's his billing address?
3) How does he normally make his payment?
4) What's his NRIC?
5) What's his mother's maiden name?

Now.. it'll be funny to see how the conversation goes - anyone wanna try and report back to us on the conversation?
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i did this to the AMEX officer who called to offer AMEX card, as he ask for my mom's name as part of registration purpose, i questioned him back how could he doesn't have my mom's name if he is referred by maybank and how can i be sure tht he is not calling to cheat my mom's name so tht he can use it on my other cards verification purposes ( as we all fill in mother maiden's name is application for loans / cards )?

then he started to explain himself, giving his name n office number for me to call, then i ask him since he is referred by maybank to offer AMEX card, he should hav my 3digit security code for credit card, but he doesn't have.... then i gave him my sister name as mother maiden's name, just in case. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 26 2008, 08:39 PM)
@yewkhuay,
In ur case, he was probably given just a phone number and no additional details.  HSBC is centralised so when I had sufficient $ to become a Premier Member and enrolled for it, they just took all my details from their existing database off my record as a HSBC Gold credit cardholder.  tongue.gif
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oh....200K...... brows.gif

QUOTE(whoknows @ May 26 2008, 08:51 PM)
Your sis is cute..  rclxms.gif  ..is she still available?  drool.gif
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erm, queue up pls....btw, not available.. cry.gif
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post May 27 2008, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 26 2008, 10:56 PM)
@vin_ann,
Yes it is time consuming to write an official letter but I think it's important as I want an official reply from them.  I didn't post it off, but faxed it off.  And if I don't hear from them in 2 weeks, I'm going to re-send the letter; this time I'm going to go through the Citibank Platinum Priority Line  biggrin.gif

I've tried using the feedback / contact us through Citibank online but again I never received a reply! *grins*  I don't want them to tell me my mail was lost in space but well since U brought it up, perhaps I'll just relog in and cut the entire letter into it and send it off wink.gif

*looks at sis's queue*
*looks at her own queue*
*shakes her head*  unsure.gif
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don't worry, i m always behind u (while queueing up for the sis...).

QUOTE(hye @ May 26 2008, 10:59 PM)
@tinkerbel
Post a picture of yourself and maybe your queue will grow exponentially as well.  icon_idea.gif
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i THINK i have seen her pics.

QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 26 2008, 11:56 PM)
Btw, did you guys know about this new BNM ruling whereby if you are not a full pay master of your credit card for the past 12 months, beginning from June/July, all your transactions would be charged finance charges (17% p.a.) the moment you swipe. It means irregardless what you buy be it petrol or PC parts, it will have finance charges starting on the transaction date itself.

I have no idea why on earth the government is doing all these. The current situation is terrible enough yet they implement this rule to kill us further. I'm sure more than 50% card users do not settle full amount every month so the banks now earn extra 1.41% all of a sudden every month. If you swipe for handphone, etc then they charge you extra 2-3%. This is pathetic!!!
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be a good payer then any rules won't affect u. at the end of the day, we wanto enjoy the benefits n conveniences brought by CC not the restriction n troubles. cheers.

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post May 27 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 27 2008, 12:26 AM)
I totally mis-read the part about "Interest Free" period - didn't know it depends on our past 12 months payment also. I mean if I'm not a full pay master and still 18% per annum and doesn't change then I won't give a heck but now, it's finance charges since day one. Thanks BN and BNM, you are really the "Barang Naik" of Malaysia.


Added on May 27, 2008, 12:30 am

We don't get a say nor decide on the restriction and troubles. Someone from BNM and BN did it for us smile.gif
Saying is easier than done. Of course if I can pay everything then I wouldn't even need a credit card in the first place or I'll just get AMEX or any other charge cards. Plus, we need to be full pay master for the next 12 months to re-enjoy the interest free period. It's such a dumb move especially when I'm using the card for the past 5-6 years but if someone apply a new one, he/she gets the interest free period for as long as they make full payment.
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perhaps u may consider changing ur card every year.

i use credit card for the convenience of least ATM withdrawal and points for shopping voucher, i pay my bill every 2-3weeks b4 the bill even reach me, it doesn't bother me at all coz i know y i use credit card, banks have never earned a single cent from me.

BNM did what is best to save ppl from being a credit card slave, just tht BNM doesn't know (may be they do) the best way is increase application income to at least 24K or black list bad payer from applying new cards.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 27 2008, 12:38 AM)
Are you doing a cash advance withdrawal? Won't that be charged from the 1st day (interest or financial charge) with some withdrawal fee?
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I wrote : convenience of LEAST ATM withdrawal. means i charge watver expenses i can to my credit card so tht when i go ATM is to pay CC outstanding, not withdraw cash. there is no such " cash advance " service in my banking dictionary, better forget about it at all.
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post May 27 2008, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 27 2008, 12:40 AM)
When you change cards, there's a cooling off period. You cannot just cancel and re-apply.

It's good that the bank doesn't earn a single cent from you but reality is, not everyone is so rich sad.gif Many people buy things with easy payment, installment scheme, etc. There are more poor/average people than the rich around.

BNM uses this as a good excuse to say they are trying to save us. It's just like how BN says increasing the price of ciggarette trying to cut down smoking but the fact is, does it really help? biggrin.gif


Added on May 27, 2008, 12:41 am

I think he deposit cash into the card so there would be no charges since the bank owes him money instead of him owing the bank.
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too bad human CREATED easy payment to let ppl who can't really afford to get what they want so easily. smart consumer will use easi /flexi payment as a convenient tool, not a shopping tool.

BNM hasn't increased the cigarrette tax high enuf, and it's HUMAN's fault for smoking, not BNM's. same goes to flexi payment. the economy grow too fast with the use of credit card despite the fact we don't need it to be tht fast coz consumers r spending money tht they don't have. US subprime crisis is 1 good example.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 27 2008, 12:47 AM)
I didn't make minimum but I don't make full payment - that's the problem biggrin.gif It's alright, the solution now is to get a new card and cancel what I have for years.
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it doesn't solve ur problem, and u r ur problem.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 27 2008, 12:53 AM)
I believe Easy or Flexi Payment and 0% installament programme are very benefits to consumers if you use it smartly. You won't burden or burn your wallet in short term in order to get what you want. Just plan your purchase wisely and you won't be trapped by cunning banks.

By the way, MBB doesn't have Easy or Flexi Payment right? I know they have year long low interest of balance transfer programme which not that useful to me.
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hardly see maybank participate in offering flexi payment, but i got hongleong, so i used tht for my laptop payment 2yrs back. always ask my fren y do they keep 4-5cards in wallet, the reply is : spare , in case..... then i started to think, do u really need 3-4 spares n in case..... u r worst case ...
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 27 2008, 12:58 AM)
If you want to be a politician and want votes, saying these are potentially disastrous. You sometimes have to see conditions of other people and just because we are in the financial position to do so, it doesn't mean other people are the same. Everyone wants to have a good living, not just you and me and many people tried their best but sometimes they still can't smile.gif Someone earning RM1,500 might want to get a furniture for his house but can't afford or get a PC for his kids but need an installment. It's always a case by case basis. I always feel thankful that I am given a good source of income but I feel sorry for those that doesn't. The world is never equal so I often put myself in other's shoe smile.gif

California state is a good example on how they curb and discourages smoking. Although dollar to dollar a pack of ciggarette there isn't very expensive compared to here but they make use of the money to do proper awareness, etc. Over here they are just making excuse to jack up price of things.


Added on May 27, 2008, 12:59 am

It's not only my problem but many other people's problem. It doesn't mean when it's not your problem, the other 70% Malaysian population have no problems smile.gif
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haha, i don expect politician point to be mentioned here.

look, all these Convenieces never exist during urs n my parents time and they made it through , poor but no BROKE. i was poor, family was poor, i never asked for a pc lesson nor pc when my peers r learning n graduating from microsoft 95, not even a video game or so. what the kids WANT doesn;t translate to what they NEED. and never compare with other ppl when it comes to luxurious / accessaries. I WANT but I can't , so I worked my way to be able to GET what I want later, example, my camera. I do not look down at ppl who r poor and unable now, I look down at ppl who know they can't afford YET go for it.

Californians are smarter than malaysians then. for malaysian to learn n to grow up , punishment is a better way since pampering doesn't work.
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@tinkerbel,
i do have extra cards but i don carry around, 2cards are enuf, even at normal credit limit of 4-5K each.

@ALL,

look at the positive side of the new rules and get used to it just like how we get used to toll hikes and petrol hikes, which deserve much more of our noise....
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 27 2008, 01:23 AM)
@clawhammer,
B realistic - toll prices will increase but it will never increase by 200% at one go! *doh*

I think someone mentioned this topic was discussed in Credit Card Thread V2 [i haven't come on board then so *shrugs* I had no idea what was shared]

Also, we aren't rich.  We're just careful with our $ and responsible

@nicole_nic81,
U haf a point - credit cards are being issued to easily these days.  I gave Citibank a piece of my mind when they tried upgrading my Clear Card to a Gold Card reducing my current total combined limit from RM19k to RM7k.  I haven't heard from them but it doesn't matter cause I'm not planning to continue using Citibank as my primary bank.

If the cards are free, I see no harm in keeping it.  I applied for the DA Gold Credit Card many years back cause it was Free For Life with no conditions attached and found use for it at last year's PC Fair - a friend wanted to get a laptop and only the local credit cards were offering 0% instalment plans so we signed it off using this DA card of mine wink.gif

@yewkhuay,
Ur right - I don't like carrying too much stuff in my wallet; it makes it bulky and I don't need so much credit limit.  In fact, I carry 3 cards out; 2 Citibank & 1 UOB.
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OT abit, I once saw my fren's PURSE like got cancer n grow tumour.... open the looooong purse, i only saw, CARDS : 4-5 CC, G2000 , Isetan, Jusco, Bonuslink, SUshiking, medical card (this is fine), metrojaya, esso, esprit,student card (God knows y....) redbox, ATM card x3, and many other member / shopping tht I do not recognize.....

I pity ...... the purse.
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QUOTE(nicole_nic81 @ May 27 2008, 01:32 AM)
wah! G2000 got card already?? last time when i wanted to apply they said don't have =.= but oh well, it was ages ago tongue.gif
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she oso got MPH n popular card....

shit....another Card Slave in the making.... shakehead.gif

i oso got many cards : coffee bean, world card, red box, UOA card, Enzylink, but i just leave them in a name card holder , take when i need.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 27 2008, 03:52 PM)
@clawhammer,
I thought it was 1 June 2008 until I checked out the banks' website on this tiered interest rates.  I got this off Citibank's site :

"Citibank credit cards are designed with benefits that allow you to enjoy and live life to its fullest. As such, effective 1 July 2008, Citibank will introduce a new Tiered Interest Rate Structure on retail purchases in line with the latest guidelines by Bank Negara Malaysia."

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Another issue with Citibank came up this afternoon when I was trying to log onto my online account to make bill payments.  Apparently my Clear Visa Card account has been shut down / closed.  Here's the gist of the story:

1) i needed to pay bills
2) i couldn't log in to my citibank online
3) i called called customer service
4) they tell me this account i'm logging onto has been closed / shut down
5) i tell them it's not possible because i just used my card tis afternoon
6) they tell me it can't be cause my account is shown as closed in the records but i ask them to check anyways
7) they tell me there is a record of a transaction going through this afternoon through this closed account
8) they got confused and put me on hold whilst they got their manager to speak with me
9) i wanted to know the reason for this account to be closed, and why the physical credit card was usable if the account is closed
10) she explained the platinum visa card offered to me will override my existing visa card cause it's a higher tier
11) she explained the physical credit card of the closed account is still usable for the next 90-days
12) she couldn't explain why i wasn't informed about the card being an upgrade, that my RM should have told me

Now I wonder what's going to happen if I decide not to want the Platinum Card *grins*
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VERY VERY BIG MISTAKE...... they deserve to lose a customer like u .
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 27 2008, 10:50 PM)
I'm just trying to help jchong clarify that it's true that you have plenty of Platinum cards biggrin.gif
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but question is u don even know whether she got FEW plats , u just GUESS.
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it's abit stupid for the bank to charge me annual fees for my gold card and they know when i call they will / can waive for me immediately. if they just send a nice simple letter to tell me they will waive it, isn't it look even better on their customer service image? haih....

not complaint, just tot it would be better. btw, it's HLB.
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my 2 UOB card sleeping in my drawer since day 1 i received....kakakakaka/...


Added on June 2, 2008, 5:41 pmmy 2 UOB card sleeping in my drawer since day 1 i received....kakakakaka/...

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 2 2008, 07:45 PM)
annual fees is okay because you can use the points to waive it. but i bet many waives it without even touching the points  rclxm9.gif
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i did. i just tell the CS officer i m calling regarding my annual fees, i havent even asked to waive he oready replied he will waive it n appear in next bill. it's ok for me since i don have to tell them off how much business i m bringing to HLB thru my house loan n car loan n the recent increase in usage with my card ( MBB card waiting for replacement ). tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jun 5 2008, 10:15 PM)
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hey guys/gals, im just notice the annual fees of RM388 is being charged to my UOB One Platinum card.  sweat.gif

and the next line, it credit back immediately.  icon_rolleyes.gif

my master card got kena charge annual fees same case as visa...
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huh? One platinum annual fee rm388? it's not even a gold card yet wor.

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