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leekk8
post Jun 17 2008, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 17 2008, 01:24 PM)
I apologise for using the word " high " because i think  there were many investors who were pensioners or retirees ( zero tax group ).

I also want to clarify that  I am a  just salesperson not qualified at all to share  the knowledge of Capital Guarantee ( the details of it ). And if you have doubt whether the product is indeed guaranteed , please approach Maybank. It is your money counts.

I saw many people asking about this product again and again, but only 1 person ( the moderator ) shared something on it. I talk in term of A to Z as this forum suggested and debatable. I have no idea who is fund manger in charge ( deemed to be important by others ).  Fund management is totally out of my scope.

I just think this could be an alternate product to FD, since any FD amount exceeding 65K is not guaranteed by bank. Correct me if I am wrong.

There are some qualified fund managers in our forum, but mainly keeping sllence.

And sometimes, they prefer to act like  the policemen than to share.
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Capital guaranteed fund is good in terms of capital guaranteed. There is no way you can lose your capital. However, there is tradeoff for this. Capital guaranteed funds normally invest 90% of it's money into money market (something like FD, short term loan), and only 10% is invested in share market. The 90% investment in money market will guarantee the investor to get back the capital at least. How much the investor can actually earn depends on how much the 10% money earn in share market.

Another disadvantage is, there is maturity date for capital guaranteed funds. For a 3-year fund, if the share market goes major correction at the period of maturity, then investors will lose the chance to earn money. For normal funds, if market goes correction, we still can hold it and wait for the market recover then only we sell or switch the funds.
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post Jun 18 2008, 02:18 PM

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Important is, investors must be well informed about how capital guaranteed funds work before they invest in it.

Everyone has own choice, and no single investment tool can suit everyone in the world.
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post Jun 18 2008, 05:44 PM

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Just to share about the historical performance of all the equity funds in Msia.

1 year return ranking:
1. OSK-UOB Resources – 28.10%
2. OSK-UOB Emerg Oppty – 26.30%
3. Public SmallCap – 25.32%
4. Public Far-East Select – 22.58%
5. CIMB Islamic SmallCap – 21.28%
6. PB ASEAN Dividend – 20.22%
7. HLG Industrial and Tech Sector – 19.57%
8. PB Growth – 18.33%
9. PRUglobal basics – 17.93%
10. HwangDBS Glo Emerging Markets – 17.84%
11. AmGlobal Agribusiness – 17.84%
12. Public Regional Sector – 16.84%
13. CIMB Principal Small Cap – 16.60%
14. AMB Value Trust – 16.46%
15. OSK-UOB Smart Treasure – 16.16%
16. CIMB Islamic Equity – 16.11%
17. CIMB Principal Equity Growth & Income – 16.10%
18. Public Islamic Opportunities – 15.94%
19. PB Asia Equity – 15.25%
20. CIMB Islamic DALI Equity – 15.23%


3 year return ranking: (Annualized Return)
1. OSK-UOB Smart Treasure – 38.62%
2. CMS Islamic – 34.98%
3. HLG Industrial and Tech Sector – 34.88%
4. OSK-UOB Emerg Oppty – 33.09%
5. PB Growth – 32.65%
6. AMB Value Trust – 32.16%
7. Public Aggressive Growth – 32.07%
8. Public SmallCap – 31.13%
9. Manulife Equity – 30.96%
10. AMB Ethical Trust – 30.46%
11. MAAKL Progress – 30.14%
12. CIMB Islamic DALI Equity – 29.78%
13. CIMB Principal Equity – 29.60%
14. Uni Aggressive 29.34%
15. CIMB Principal Equity Growth & Income – 28.62%
16. CIMB Principal Equity Aggressive 1 – 28.48%
17. MAAKL Value – 28.15%
18. CIMB Islamic Equity – 28.06%
19. OSK-UOB Small Cap Opportunity – 27.88%
20. CIMB Principal Equity Aggressive 2 – 27.78%


Sources: http://www.lipperweb.com

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post Jul 10 2008, 11:34 PM

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Lipper Leaders of Malaysia: (30 Jun 2008)

Timeframe: Overall
1. AIA Capital Gteed Acct Srs 2 - Guaranteed
2. AIA Guaranteed Growth Account – Guaranteed
3. Avenue Bond EXTRA – Bond MYR
4. CMS Bond – Bond MYR
5. Dana Sejati - Bond MYR
6. Lion Fixed Income - Bond MYR
7. MAA Capital Guaranteed 1 – Guaranteed
8. MAAKL Al-Faid – Equity Malaysia
9. MAAKL Progress – Equity Malaysia Sm&Mid Cap
10. MAAKL Syariah Index – Equity Malaysia
11. Pacific Dividend - Equity Malaysia
12. Pacific Income - Mixed Assets Other Conservative
13. Uni Strategic – Equity Malaysia

Timeframe: 3 Year
1. AIA Capital Guaranteed Acct 3 – Guaranteed
2. AIA Dana Dinamik – Equity Malaysia
3. AMB Value Trust – Equity Malaysia
4. Avenue Bond EXTRA – Bond MYR
5. CMS Bond – Bond MYR
6. Dana Sejati – Bond MYR
7. Great Guaranteed Growth – Guaranteed
8. Lion Fixed Income – Bond MYR
9. MAA Capital Guaranteed 1 – Guaranteed
10. Pacific Dividend – Equity Malaysia
11. Uni Strategic – Equity Malaysia

Timeframe: 5 Year
1. AIA Capital Guaranteed Account – Guaranteed
2. AIA Capital Guaranteed Acct 2 – Guaranteed
3. Avenue Bond EXTRA – Bond MYR
4. CMS Bond – Bond MYR
5. Dana Sejati – Bond MYR
6. Lion Progressive – Equity Malaysia
7. MAAKL Al-Faid – Equity Malaysia
8. MAAKL Bond – Bond MYR
9. MAAKL Syariah Index – Equity Malaysia
10. Public Islamic Equity – Equity Malaysia
11. Public Ittikal – Equity Malaysia

Timeframe: 10 Year
1. Public Bond – Bond MYR


Source: http://www.lipperweb.com

Top 20 Performance Equity Funds in Malaysia: (30 Jun 2008)

1 year:
1. OSK-UOB Resources – 18.56%
2. HLG Industrial and Tech Sector – 14.62%
3. PB Asean Dividend – 12.39%
4. PRUGlobal Basics – 10.64%
5. MAA Capital Guaranteed 2 – 9.63%
6. OSK-UOB Emerg Oppty – 9.63%
7. MAA Capital Guaranteed 3 – 9.35%
8. AMB Value Trust – 9.22%
9. MAA Capital Guaranteed 1 – 9.08%
10. PB Growth – 7.66%
11. AmNew Frontier – 7.54%
12. CIMB Islamic DALI Equity Growth – 7.28%
13. Public SmallCap – 6.97%
14. PRUlink Guaranteed Account – 6.85%
15. CIMB Islamic Small Cap – 6.75%
16. AmGlobal Agribusiness – 6.26%
17. Public Far-East Select – 6.10%
18. CIMB Islamic Equity – 6.01%
19. CIMB-Principal Small Cap – 6.00%
20. CIMB-Principal Equity Growth & Income – 5.88%

3 year (Annualized Return):
1. OSK-UOB Smart Treasure – 34.23%
2. CMS Islamic – 31.89%
3. HLG Industrial and Tech Sector – 31.03%
4. AMB Value Trust – 29.10%
5. OSK-UOB Emerg Oppty – 28.68%%
6. PB Growth – 28.41%
7. Public SmallCap – 27.72%
8. AMB Ethical Trust – 27.25%
9. Public Aggressive Growth – 27.02%
10. Uni Aggressive – 26.70%
11. Manulife Equity – 26.47%
12. MAAKL Progress – 26.42%
13. CIMB Islamic DALI Equity – 25.18%
14. CIMB Principal Equity – 24.90%
15. Public Islamic Opportunities – 24.52%
16. OSK-UOB Small Cap Opportunity – 24.52%
17. MAAKL Value – 24.41%
18. ING OA Inv- ING Ekuiti Islam – 23.65%
19. ING Dana Suria Ekuiti – 23.53%
20. CIMB Principal Equity Growth & Income – 23.44%

5 Year (Annualized Return):
1. PB Growth – 24.77%
2. Manulife Equity – 22.75%
3. AMB Value Trust – 22.11%
4. Public SmallCap – 21.85%
5. Public Aggressive Growth – 21.04%
6. CMS Islamic – 20.80%
7. ING Dana Suria Ekuiti – 20.80%
8. AMB Ethical Trust – 20.06%
9. Public Ittikal – 19.77%
10. Public Industry – 19.56%
11. OSK-UOB KLCI Tracker – 19.40%
12. CMS Premier – 19.33%
13. ING Equity – 19.02%
14. Public Equity – 18.90%
15. MAAKL Progress – 18.73%
16. MAAKL Al-Faid – 18.60%
17. Public Islamic Equity – 18.55%
18. Public Growth – 18.29%
19. Lion Progressive – 18.16%
20. Public Savings – 18.16%


Source: http://www.lipperweb.com

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post Jul 10 2008, 11:40 PM

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Bottom 20 Performance Equity Funds in Malaysia: (30 Jun 2008)
Bracket indicate negative value.


1 year:
1. Philip Master First Ethical – (40.64%)
2. AmPan Europena Property Eq – (31.59%)
3. RHB Technology – (28.52%)
4. OSK-UOB Global New Stars – (24.49%)
5. AmAsia-Pacific Property Eq – (23.43%)
6. AmGlobal Property Equities – (22.97%)
7. AmGlobal Enhanced Equity Yield – (21.07%)
8. CMS Premier – (20.78%)
9. HwangDBS Global Property – (20.17%)
10. ING OA Inv- ING Growth Opp – (17.80%)
11. RHB Global Themes – (17.58%)
12. HwangDBS Select Opportunity – (17.48%)
13. Pheim Asia Ex-Japan – (17.29%)
14. ING Global Dividend – (17.26%)
15. PRUglobal Equity Blend – (17.10%)
16. AIA International SmallCap – (17.06%)
17. OSK-UOB TMT Focus – (16.46%)
18. ING Global Real Estate – (16.18%)
19. PRUSmall Cap – (16.03%)
20. HLG Dividend – (16.01%)

3 year:
1. Philip Master First Ethical – (7.37%)
2. RHB Technology – (4.03%)
3. AMB SmallCap Trust – 5.56%
4. MCIS Zurich Equity – 6.12%
5. HLG Trading/Services Sector – 6.44%
6. Amanah Saham Kedah – 6.92%
7. Amanah Saham BSN – 7.11%
8. ASM KMBY Kelima – 7.76%
9. Allianz Life Equity – 7.78%
10. MAAKL Pacific – 8.32%
11. PJB Dana Johor – 8.54%
12. ASM KMBY Ketujuh – 8.73%
13. HLG Dividend – 8.76%%
14. Allianz Life Dynamic Growth – 9.01%
15. Amanah Saham Darul Iman – 9.10%
16. ASM Saham Pekerja TNB – 9.31%
17. PRUlink Guaranteed Account – 9.32 %
18. ASM Premier – 9.35%
19. TA Small Cap – 9.50%
20. Apex Malaysia Growth – 9.64%

5 Year:
1. Phillip Master First Ethical – (0.98%)
2. RHB Technology – (0.92%)
3. PJB Dana Johor – 5.72%
4. MCIS ZURICH Equity – 6.27%
5. Amanah Saham Darul Iman – 6.28%
6. AUTB Dana Bakti – 6.40%
7. CIMB Islamic Small Cap – 6.55%
8. PJB Amanah Saham Angkasa – 6.71%
9. Amanah Saham BSN – 6.74%
10. CIMB Principal Small Cap 2 – 7.03%
11. AmIttikal – 7.09%
12. AUTB Tactical – 7.54%
13. RHB Malaysia Recovery – 8.01%
14. AMB Unit Trust – 8.40%
15. Amanah Saham Kedah – 8.61%
16. Apex Malaysia Growth – 8.83%
17. ASM Saham Pekerja TNB – 8.87%
18. MAA Technology – 9.06%
19. ASM Dana Bestari – 9.11%
20. MAA Capital Guaranteed 1 – 9.18%

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post Jul 13 2008, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(insaint @ Jul 13 2008, 02:19 PM)
thanks Jordy for your advice, as i called the HLA agent, he explain to me that HLA is offering something more like a Insurans + FD + investment link plan, the first in the market as it is true and HLA promise that it gonna work... as he also said that the interests you get you will be able to collect it on the 2nd year of the term and the 4th and 6th year respectively...

and to ensure your confident and believe in such a plan he also said that you can call him anytime or you may leave your number and he will call you to arrange an appointment to explain the plan to you...

anyway thanks for you advice, as i am kinda keen to buy this plan, as it's better then to put into FD, with the market like this FD rate would be revised anytime...and no harm trying this plan as every investment also got risk involved but with it's 25% interest rate and Insurans involved, it might worth a try.

Anyway, for you, no harm listening to this agent? as i might feel better that you try to call him and listen to his plan then decide on whether this work anot then maybe i really no need to worry about this anymore and let the money rolls it self, as PROS like you would identify whether this is a CON or whatsoever.

Thanks Jordy
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25% return per annum? If start to get it after 15 years, and take the interest for 10 years, maybe still possible. If once you buy the policy and get 25% return per annum straight away, it's impossible. Most of this kind of plans now offer 4% guaranteed return and 3% projected return.

You should call up to HLA office and confirm but not just listen to what the agent said, unless you can see the policy state clearly about the rate of return in black and white before you sign for the plan.

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post Jul 14 2008, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(insaint @ Jul 14 2008, 10:49 AM)
No, you gonna get your 25% every 2 years, so 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, and 10th you gonna get 25% each and on the 10th year also which your term finish, you gonna get your total amount paid plus with devidend given every year for the 10 years which is 5% a year (lesser or higher base on the performance of HLA of that year), and you already get your return after the 2 years d, nice anot? come to think of it, it's good to buy this then to put in educational fund for those who have children.

If your child is 10years old now, later it's ready for them to use it for educational purposes with insurans for them on the same time, with returns. Nice~!.

Anyway, i gonna post my quotation later to let you all confirm, advice me whether this is a scam or what, as it's really a good investment.
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Definitely this is not a scam, just maybe you are confused by the agent with the 25% return. I get some info from another forum. For example you pay RM13750 per year for 10 years, every 2 years, you can get RM6000 and after 10 years, you get back your capital, which is RM137500. Correct me if the info you have is different from this.

Lets see the difference between this plan and FD.

This plan:
2 Year: RM6000 (6000/27500=21.82%)
4 Year: RM6000 (6000/55000=10.91%)
6 Year: RM6000 (6000/82500=7.27%)
8 Year: RM6000 (6000/110000=5.45%)
10 Year: RM6000+RM137500 (6000/137500=4.36%)
Total: RM167500

Fixed Deposit: (Assume we take out the interest every 2 year, and remain the capital in FD with 3.75% p.a.)
2 Year: RM1566
4 Year: RM3667
6 Year: RM5768
8 Year: RM7869
10 Year: RM9970+RM137500
Total: RM166340

So, when we calculate it and compare with FD, we can see this plan can earn a bit more than FD. There is nothing special and definitely there is no 25% return per year. Anyway, the benefit of this kind of plan is the insurance, where we no need to pay if we're gone or TPD. The cons is low liquidity, we only can withdraw the money according to the schedule and we must pay for it every year on time no matter how's your financial situation.

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post Jul 28 2008, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(adeas @ Jul 27 2008, 10:54 AM)
oh i see...how about an increasing of oil price and political crisis in malaysia?never effect the long term investment?
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Oil price start to drop, OPEC expect oil price will drop slowly until USD70-80. smile.gif
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post Jul 30 2008, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 29 2008, 11:01 PM)
well...if u compare to US type mutual fund......their fund is way diff, some even quite profit when market go down.....while malaysia one is like buy when price is extremely high n sell when price is very very low

if 5 years only 10% p.a average i think maybe i can earn more with foreign fd alone?
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Be realistic, normally unit trust investment give 8-12% p.a. return over a long run. Don't expect can get more than that easily. Even Warren Buffett gain around 25% p.a. from stock investment, we shouldn't expect return from unit trust is as high as stock investment, and definitely fund managers are not as good as Warren Buffett in investment.
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Aug 10 2008, 08:45 PM)
One more issue i withdraw my investment from fund is due to the transparency. We know what stock the fund manager bought but we don know at what price they bought. Take for example stock A
The fund manager bought stock A at RM 2.00 (i mean his personal account). After that he use the fund money to buy at RM 2.50. Then during RM 3.00 he can sell of his own stock first. Is it possible? I don mean to say fund is not good. I just doubtful about the transparency.. I ask my unit trust upline but he cannot answer me....
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Yes, fund managers normally did not disclose what price they are trading for each transaction, but in the annual/interim report, there are cost of each counter and market price of each counter stated.
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Aug 13 2008, 10:03 PM)
If you really see no prospect or don have confident to the fund that you invested. You can try switch to another fund. It can save you the 5 percent service charge.
There are few funds which i think their futures are not bad:
Public Islamic Asia Dividend Fund

Public Islamic Dividend Fund

Public Ittikal Fund

This few funds mostly invested in Asia (Not in one country) Therefore the risk is lower for example political risk.
Besides, they gives dividend is more to steady growth. But before you invest to that fund you better refer to agent to check on the investment portfolio (which company they invested in and what sector they invested in)
PIDF is a 100% pure local fund, means 100% invest in Msia.
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Lipper Leaders of Msia Funds: (31 July 2008)

Timeframe: Overall
1. AIA Capital Gteed Acct Srs 2 - Guaranteed
2. AIA Guaranteed Growth Account – Guaranteed
3. AMB Value Trust – Equity Malaysia
4. CMS Bond – Bond MYR
5. Dana Sejati - Bond MYR
6. Lion Fixed Income - Bond MYR
7. Lion Progressive – Equity Malaysia
8. MAAKL Al-Faid – Equity Malaysia
9. Pacific Dividend - Equity Malaysia
10. Uni Strategic – Equity Malaysia

Timeframe: 3 Year
1. Affin Capital – Bond MYR
2. AIA Dana Dinamik – Equity Malaysia
3. AMB Value Trust – Equity Malaysia
4. CMS Bond – Bond MYR
5. Dana Sejati – Bond MYR
6. Great Guaranteed Growth – Guaranteed
7. Kenanga Syariah Growth – Equity Malaysia
8. Lion Fixed Income – Bond MYR
9. Lion Progressive – Equity Malaysia
10. MAA Capital Guaranteed 1 – Guaranteed
11. Pacific Dividend – Equity Malaysia
12. Uni Strategic – Equity Malaysia

Timeframe: 5 Year
1. AIA Capital Guaranteed Account – Guaranteed
2. AIA Capital Guaranteed Acct 2 – Guaranteed
3. CMS Bond – Bond MYR
4. Dana Sejati – Bond MYR
5. Lion Fixed Income – Bond MYR
6. Lion Progressive – Equity Malaysia
7. MAAKL Al-Faid – Equity Malaysia
8. MAAKL As-Saad – Bond MYR
9. MAAKL Bond – Bond MYR
10. MAAKL Syariah Index – Equity Malaysia
11. Public Islamic Equity – Equity Malaysia
12. Public Ittikal – Equity Malaysia
13. Public Savings – Equity Malaysia

Timeframe: 10 Year
1. Public Bond – Bond MYR

Source: www.lipperweb.com
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post Aug 14 2008, 10:53 AM

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Top 20 Performance Equity Funds of Msia: (31 July 2008)
Bracket indicates negative value.

1 year
1. MAA Capital Guaranteed 1 – 9.52%
2. PRUlink Guaranteed Account – 8.05%
3. MAA Capital Guaranteed 2 – 7.49%
4. MAA Capital Guaranteed 3 – 6.92%
5. MAA Platinum – 6.10%
6. HLG Industrial and Tech Sector – 2.78%
7. HLG Consumer Products Sector – 2.27%
8. MAA Technology – 1.85%
9. OSK-UOB Resources – 1.51%
10. AmGlobal Agribusiness – 1.47%
11. PRUGlobal Basics – 1.26%
12. HwangDBS Glo Emerging Markets – 0.90%
13. AMB Value Trust – 0.13%
14. Property Plus CG – (0.06%)
15. AmNew Frontier – (0.16%)
16. MAAKL Dividend – (0.42%)
17. ASM Dana Al-Aiman – (0.45%)
18. AmDividend Income – (0.49%)
19. ASM Dana Bestari – (0.88%)
20. AMB Ethical Trust – (0.91%)

3 year (Annualized Return)
1. OSK-UOB Smart Treasure – 31.28%
2. HLG Industrial and Tech Sector – 29.08%
3. AMB Value Trust – 27.08%
4. OSK-UOB Emerg Oppty – 27.02%
5. Uni Aggressive – 25.50%
6. Public SmallCap – 25.29%
7. Manulife Equity – 25.08%
8. AMB Ethical Trust – 25.01%
9. PB Growth – 24.76%
10. Public Aggressive Growth – 23.51%
11. MAAKL Progress – 22.88%
12. CIMB Principal Equity – 22.70%
13. Public Islamic Opportunities – 22.61%
14. OSK-UOB Small Cap Opportunity – 22.34%
15. Uni Strategic – 22.13%
16. CIMB Islamic DALI Equity – 21.29%
17. MAAKL Value – 21.25%
18. TA High Growth – 20.68%
19. ING OA Inv- ING Ekuiti Islam – 20.42%
20. MAAKL Growth – 20.05%

5 Year (Annualized Return)
1. PB Growth – 22.98%
2. Manulife Equity – 21.33%
3. AMB Value Trust – 20.74%
4. Public SmallCap – 20.11%
5. Public Aggressive Growth – 19.40%
6. CMS Islamic – 18.88%
7. AMB Ethical Trust – 18.58%
8. ING Dana Suria Ekuiti – 18.31%
9. OSK-UOB KLCI Tracker – 18.13%
10. Public Ittikal – 17.91%
11. Public Equity – 17.58%
12. Public Industry – 17.55%
13. MAAKL Al-Faid – 17.55%
14. CMS Premier – 17.34%
15. Public Islamic Equity – 17.22%
16. Public Savings – 16.96%
17. Public Growth – 16.96%
18. ING Equity – 16.79%
19. Public Regular Savings – 16.79%
20. Lion Progressive – 16.62%

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Bottom 20 Performance of Equity Funds in Msia: (31 July 2008)
Bracket indicates negative value.

1 year:
1. Philip Master First Ethical – (41.05%)
2. AmPan Europena Property Eq – (31.93%)
3. CMS Premier – (28.54%)
4. OSK-UOB Global New Stars – (28.25%)
5. HwangDBS Select Opportunity – (25.38%)
6. MAAKL Pacific – (25.32%)
7. Public Far-East Prop & Resorts – (24.71%)
8. ING OA Inv- ING Growth Opp – (24.45%)
9. AIA International SmallCap – (22.72%)
10. Pheim Asia Ex-Japan – (22.64%)
11. AmAsia-Pacific Property Eq – (22.63%)
12. RHB Technology – (21.75%)
13. Uni Global IPO – (21.69%)
14. Amanah Saham Kedah – (21.40%)
15. OSK-UOB Asia Pacific – (21.37%)
16. HwangDBS Asia Quantum – (19.99%)
17. CIMB-Principal Asian Equity – (19.40%)
18. PRUSmallCap – (19.22%)
19. AmGlobal Enhanced Equity Yield – (19.05%)
20. Mayban Life Premier Equity – (18.85%)

3 year: (Annualized Return)
1. Philip Master First Ethical – (8.63%)
2. RHB Technology – (4.79%)
3. AMB SmallCap Trust – 3.57%
4. Amanah Saham Kedah – 4.18%
5. ASM KMBY Kelima – 4.65%
6. Amanah Saham BSN – 4.86%
7. MCIS Zurich Equity – 4.96%
8. HLG Trading/Services Sector – 5.37%
9. ASM KMBY Ketujuh – 5.66%
10. PJB Dana Johor – 5.88%
11. HwangDBS Asia Quantum – 6.16%
12. HLG Dividend – 6.38%
13. ASM Saham Pekerja TNB – 6.53%
14. Amanah Saham Darul Iman – 6.80%
15. RHB Malaysia Recovery – 6.96%
16. ASM Premier – 7.28%
17. Allianz Life Equity – 7.30%
18. TA Small Cap – 7.35%
19. ASM Dana Mutiara – 7.60%
20. ING OA Inv-ING Growth Opp – 7.62%

5 Year: (Annualized Return)
1. RHB Technology – (2.55%)
2. Phillip Master First Ethical – (1.11%)
3. PJB Dana Johor – 2.59%
4. PJB Amanah Saham Angkasa – 4.69%
5. Amanah Saham Darul Iman – 5.04%
6. AUTB Dana Bakti – 5.19%
7. AmIttikal – 5.51%
8. CIMB Islamic Small Cap – 5.57%
9. CIMB Principal Small Cap 2 – 5.61%
10. MCIS ZURICH Equity – 5.70%
11. Amanah Saham BSN – 5.81%
12. RHB Malaysia Recovery – 6.06%
13. AUTB Tactical – 6.34%
14. ASM Saham Pekerja TNB – 7.03%
15. AMB Unit Trust – 7.09%
16. Amanah Saham Kedah – 7.15%
17. Apex Malaysia Growth – 7.52%
18. ASM Dana Yakin – 7.69%
19. ASM KMBY Ketujuh – 7.69%
20. ASM Dana Bestari – 7.72%

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post Sep 4 2008, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 3 2008, 02:57 PM)
Most of Public and PM equities funds always consist Pbbank as their top 5 holdings.
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I believe most of the equity funds in Msia will hold PBBANK as their top 10 holdings, as PBBANK is one of the most potential companies in Msia, in terms of growth and dividend yield.
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QUOTE(fral @ Oct 31 2008, 10:23 PM)
hi guys.. new to this discussion tongue.gif  I have a question regarding mutual fund. I hope any sifoos can give me a hand, and share your expertise.

From my knowledge, usually we invest in mutual fund for 2 main purposes: income or growth, or both. Say I hold some units in a fund, for capital growth. Does it mean that I hope to gain based on the price of the fund? For example I bought a CIMB fund for 0.23 per unit, so I hope in a few years, THE PRICE OF THE FUND will appreciate so I can resell it?

One more thing, do ALL fund give dividend?
Thank you for yr assistance.
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Just to share my experience...don't expect the fund price will rise to very high, as normally if the fund price is high, fund manager will always give distribution to lower down the fund price, and investors will have more units. There are a lot of funds actually give more than 100% return for the last 10 years, but the price is still under RM1, because the distribution or unit split.

Fund managers know that many investors have a wrong perception that cheap fund is more worth to invest, so they will always give distribution when the fund price rise high...If you really look at the fund price, you will notice, at most the price is as high as RM1-RM1.50, I haven't seen any equity fund with price higher than that.
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QUOTE(Dai Dee @ Dec 3 2008, 12:04 AM)
seriously need help here...i wanna start investing now but im at lost cause really unsure whether its a good time to start or not....
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Nobody can know when is the best time to invest. Only 3 month after the bottom, then you will know the best time to invest is already past for 3 months. You can start invest when you're well prepared.
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ May 30 2009, 05:59 PM)
I found this only 1.25%. No mgmt fee, and no initial discount. Is this an index fund, or insurance?

"Premier Index Fund
Objective: To achieve a commendable medium to long-term capital appreciation by seeking to track the performance of the KLCI. This fund maintains a portfolio of stocks that matches the composition of the index by investing primarily in the 100 stocks which make up the benchmark of the KLCI.
Annual fund management fee: 1.25% "
Source: http://www.maybank2u.com.my/
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This is an investment linked product. This fund is under Maybank Premier Invest Single Premium programme. The upfront service charge is not stated, as normally investment linked product will not state the charge.
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Jun 15 2009, 01:14 AM)
Hello there, where to find the list of available FD in Malaysia? Is there any website that I can refer? Thinking of joining in the future ...  icon_idea.gif
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Join FD? What do you mean???
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post Jun 17 2009, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jun 17 2009, 10:40 AM)
Late reply, but this is something that I've wondered about in the past on this very forum as well. If you read a lot of general investment advice that comes out of experience in the US markets, the general consensus you should get is that most ordinary people should just buy index funds and forget about everything else. The rationale is that research has definitively demonstrated that over the long run, index funds in the aggregate outperform actively managed funds once you account for the higher costs associated with the managed funds. While it is possible for managed funds to beat the index, research has shown that it is not generally possible to predict in advance which particular managed fund will beat its benchmark index in any particular year. Research has also shown that the simple strategy of choosing the best performer of last year to invest in every year is a losing one.

However, I've come to realize that for many different reasons many of these things don't really apply to Malaysia. Some of these reasons include:

1) The U.S. is a mature and deep market with extremely high liquidity and lots of players. The Malaysian market is puny in comparison and dominated by some extremely big players, including the government. This means that unlike the mature U.S. market which lacks arbitrage opportunities because the market is deep enough that the prices should reflect all relevant information available to all market participants, it is still possible for investors in the Malaysia to identify and exploit arbitrage opportunities due to factors such as information disparity (some market participants know some things that others don't) and the fact that in some cases government-linked companies and investors are "forced" to act in a certain way and everyone knows this.

2) U.S. index funds are really, really cheap, in some cases as cheap as 0.15% a year. No Malaysian index fund can match that. This makes Malaysian index funds a lot less worthwhile. As I've previously mentioned, if "alpha" comes so cheap, why not just buy it? This raises the question of why index funds are so expensive in Malaysia and why no new competitors have entered the field offering low costs? One part of the reason is obvious. An index fund, since it is not actively managed, should have relatively fixed costs and very, very low marginal costs. In other words, it takes a certain amount of money to establish and keep a fund running, but each new customer adds almost nothing in terms of extra costs. Because the U.S. market is so huge, this means that it is possible for the U.S. index funds to spread their costs around to a very large number of customers. The Malaysian index funds can't do that, so their costs will always be higher.

3) Another reason I can think of is that the various investment funds in Malaysia are heavily reliant on a network of sales agents to sell and service them. On the other hand, if all you want is to invest in an index fund in the US, there's no way the fund is going to send an agent to you and offer you a personalize, one-on-one service. Since agents are paid commissions that are ultimately paid from the fund's management fees, obviously any fund that wants to make a serious dent in its fees must find a way to do without them. For various reasons, such as the lower level of financial education amongst Malaysians, this might not be feasible. Or else Malaysians might feel more of a psychological need to speak with a human sales agent to ask questions and solve problems for them.

4) Malaysians are not comfortable with the idea that matching a benchmark is good enough. They do not want average returns. They want exceptional returns, every year. Once again, this is a logical impossibility: it is not possible for everyone in the market to be doing above average at the same time. For every one that is, someone must be doing below average. However, it is possible that most Malaysians have not yet overcome the psychological hurdle that the returns on their personal investments are more likely than not going to be average over the long run and thus eschew index funds on principle because these funds by definition offer only average returns.
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Good points...not everything in US can be applied in Msia. In Malaysia, if you really want to invest index fund, go for ETF.
Msia is not a mature market like US, so, index fund may not outperform other actively managed funds.


Added on June 17, 2009, 5:55 pm
QUOTE(Irzani @ Jun 16 2009, 02:39 PM)
Fund Investment ..  hmm.gif
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You can always refer to those unit trust management company website like OSKUOB, Public Mutual and so forth.
And the better way is, find an agent to explain to you.

This post has been edited by leekk8: Jun 17 2009, 05:55 PM

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