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post Jun 12 2011, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 11 2011, 01:54 PM)
Dont lar FD's returns = seeds only - FD has it's role in your "team of $lave$" and there are other roles too  tongue.gif

IMHO, i need to have:
a. attackers / forwards (growth stocks, properties to flip, etc - makes $ via capital or price growth)
b. mid-fielders (rental properties, REITs, dividend stocks, etc. - makes income mainly, capital growth secondary)
c. defenders (bonds, FD, MM and equivalents - makes % while waiting for opportunities without much risks other than inflation risks)
d. goalie (emergency buffer, cash)

So far, i'm up to that only (other than having enough coverage & a Will + instructions on where assets are, how to get to them & how to use them to live minimally nearly forever  tongue.gif)
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Mr. WongMunKeong, how would you classify ASW, AS1M and ASM?

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post Nov 22 2011, 09:41 PM

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Many investors join PM as agent just to enjoy lower net charges.
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post Nov 23 2011, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 22 2011, 09:57 PM)
Heheh - well bro, i'm so adverse to charges i usually eat at places WITHOUT service tax and service charges. Heck, i bring my own food for work lunch and cook for dinner tongue.gif.

Thus, even as an "Agent", i feel the pain of "losing" about 2.75%+ (my 2.75% i get back kena tax mar tongue.gif) every time i do cash investment and 1.3%+ every time i do EPF investment  shocking.gif


Added on November 22, 2011, 10:01 pm
Yeah and now PM actually filtering agents, using the $30K equity fund sales pa quota. Eek!


Added on November 22, 2011, 10:02 pm
Yup yup - sore lor... but so far, PM has "better than average" equity and bond funds which cycle / switch around for cost effective profit taking and re-pumping back to equities via value averaging or lump sum value buy. Thus... until i find an intra-fund house that has such, hard to move due to my personal approach.
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Was tempted to join as PM agent for those benefits you mentioned. So PM the only intra-fund house with these in Malaysia? At 1.3%, the cost of using EPF for investment is low, good suggestion.
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post Nov 23 2011, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 23 2011, 08:38 AM)
So far no other fund houses I've glanced at has a "better than average" mix of equity and bond funds that fits my asset allocation requirements. Perhaps I need to dig deeper tongue.gif.
Please note that I'm not saying PM's funds are best of the best yar - they've dogs too but they also have better than average equity funds & bond funds.
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What do you think about the CIMB Trader Account 0% brokeage promo? Any hidden charges?
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post Dec 26 2011, 06:19 AM

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I am thinking of investing in Singapore esp. stocks like STIETF (all investment currently in Msia).
Which would be the best way(transfering of funds oversea & etc) and at lower cost, thru local stockbroking co like cimb securities or go direct to Singapore's stockbroking co?
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post Jan 9 2012, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 7 2012, 11:43 AM)
he mean balance fund.

certain % of the $$ is allocated to equity and certain % is on bond sukuk and cash
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Read that instead of putting in Balanced fund, better to split your investment into Equity fund and Bond fund yourself and effectively reduced your cost due to commission. Right?
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post Jan 16 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 16 2012, 10:16 AM)
Yes and No. Yes for china growth engine is still growing, and no because no good local fund managers can manage Chian investment well, so far.
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No doubt China has an enviable growth all these while, but not their stock markets for the last two years.
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post Jan 16 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 16 2012, 01:02 PM)


Added on January 16, 2012, 1:07 pm

Emm you sure? It kinda depend which fund you buy. The china fund i bought in 2009 so far have 40% return for me.  rclxms.gif
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Was at the Fundsupermart Fair last weekend and both the Greater China Funds recommended (Prudinasti and Manulife China Value Fund) gave double digit loss since 2010. But they did show that P/E is ten year low currently.
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post Jan 16 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 16 2012, 02:15 PM)
Emmm Malaysian Fund Managers so far can't perform for China Investment.. you need local fund managers to navigate the China investments as there are many 'hanky panky' around.  laugh.gif
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So China market is actually a crocodile pond, so how do you invest in China Funds if not thru Mlaysian Fund Managers?
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post Jan 16 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 16 2012, 03:06 PM)
I am invested via First State Regional China Fund and DWS China Equity.. google it.  smile.gif I invest via Singapore.
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Returns not so good unless invested in 2008. You bought thru dollardex or fundsupermart or Direct?

I realised that short/medium/long term few funds can match the performance of ASB. The Bumi are so damn lucky.

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post Jan 19 2012, 12:09 PM

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Read this article and its comments:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...olls-says-bofa/

What is the best course of action to take if there is a change of govt.?
Sell all KLSE stocks and local funds and keep cash before GE13?
After GE observe and slowly accumulate non-BN bluechip stocks?


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post Jan 19 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 19 2012, 12:42 PM)
Heheh - analyst predictions.. right...

BTW, last election fiasco - index dropped 10% and KLSE circuit breaker kicked-in.
For the "rest of the fall" in 2008, not due to election IMHO but due to the credit crisis thanks to US (BofA analyst from yr link, hm...).
Thus, 10% drop no biggie if only 30%+ of my assets in KLSE equities, assuming my counters held actually fell 10%. In fact, it's a nice to to buy good businesses at discounted prices if one has ammunition held for such opportunity targets.

Anyways, until crystal balls are invented & analysts' predictions are on the money AND on time, i'll continue on with Asset Allocation executed via 50% Value Averaging+DCA & 50% Opportunity/Lelong purchases tongue.gif

Just a thought  notworthy.gif
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Wongmunkeong, always like to read your views.

But in GE12 BN won but with reduced majority, scenario could be diff if Pakatan wins. This round I think whoever wins ( it will be very close) the market will still lose, at least initially.
My strategy is:
Before GE, keep all my fixed-price ASNB funds, sell off all my KLSE stocks and keep cash.
After GE, buy non-BN bluechips with the cash-in-hand and slowly switch from ASNB funds to non-BN bluechips.
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post Jan 19 2012, 02:17 PM

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Bro Wong, when did u start investing methodically, and what is your CAGR since then? I am sure you are one of the few who keep track of your investment at all time.

Bought one of the book highly recommended by u, "Secrets of the millionaire ..." but have not read yet. Could not find the book on Twinvest.


Added on January 19, 2012, 2:31 pm
QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 19 2012, 01:21 PM)
domo domo for your kind thoughts.

I agree with U if U are making / profiting like 10%pa+ already, good idea to take some risks off the table.
I think the question then would be:
a. How much to take off the table?
b. If kaka doesnt hit the fan (ie. no severe or long drops), then your cash holding how?
Should have re-entry plans if it happens (U have already) and if it doesnt happen methinks. Just in case lar

Just thinking in terms of exit/entry cycle yar, no right or wrong.

Just to toss some really obvious things into the fray:
2012 - ppl claiming end of the world around Nov / Dec
These people, will they do whatever they want, sell everything off & enjoy?
If they do, what are their "re-entry" plans IF end of the world doesn't happen?
No plans - ie. if world doesnt end, they end themselves? tongue.gif

Yar yar i know the 2012 end of world thing above is really "kua cheong" (ridiculous example), just that sometimes, examples of ridiculousness helps put things in perspective.

Just a thought  notworthy.gif
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Problem with me is I never keep track if my KLSE stocks are making gains. Only border with total wealth (which is wrong). Care to recommend any software for easy tracking. Currently 50% on ASNB, 10% cash, 5% KLSE, 5% private equity. If after GE no severe drop, will put cash-in-hand into low PE market like China, KLSE PE a bit high.

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post Jan 19 2012, 03:56 PM

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Bro Wong, very good timing to start in 2009. Can see that most of your funds makes money. Profits % shown are after sales charge of 5%?
I notice that all are PM funds, why buy thru sales agent? Might as well buy as an PM agent.
2011 was a bad year for most funds, did u manage to make net gain too?

So u are using excel. I only have 1 UT fund. I am also using HLeb.

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post Jan 19 2012, 04:59 PM

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Sifu Wong, thanks for sharing.

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post May 11 2012, 08:40 AM

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Which assets to park at before and if Greece change govt, quit eurozone, and eurozone disintegrate?
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post May 18 2012, 06:09 AM

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Will this contagion hits Asia/Malaysia badly?

Taken From Singapore's Biz Times:

Greek euro exit would risk Asian crisis-style rout: Zeti

SINGAPORE] A Greek exit from the euro could cause contagion comparable to the Asian financial crisis, according to Malaysia's central bank governor Zeti Akhtar Aziz, who had first- hand experience of that turmoil.

"The worst-case scenario is what we saw in Asia," Ms Zeti, 64, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television in Istanbul on Wednesday. "When one economy collapses, then the market usually moves on to focus on the next one. Then there will be a contagion that will affect different countries that probably don't deserve those kinds of consequences."

European leaders are now openly talking about a possible Greek euro exit after attempts to form a ruling coalition in Athens broke down on Tuesday.

The debt crisis in the region sent Spain's 10-year bond to a five-month high of 6.5 per cent on Wednesday and Italy's 10-year bond yield rose to as much as 6 per cent, the highest since Jan 30

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post Aug 1 2012, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 1 2012, 04:48 PM)

Since i'm a lazy baka, 1 or 2 properties cukup lor, the rest all REITs and i can have weird stuff like plantations, malls and hospitals which in my lifetime, i'll never be able to buy outright hehheh.
Been buying SGX REITs (AIMSAMPI, SABANA, FIRST, LIPPO MALL & a bit of SAIZEN) for the past several months with cash.
Accumulating for ASX REITs currently and while accumulating, R&D-ing on ASX REITs/

Bro, how do you buy these foreign REITS? Thru local banks? How do you pay for them since they are foreign invesments? Does Bank Negara still control outflow of funds for this type of direct investment?

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