QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Sep 25 2012, 11:29 AM)
Like I got a friend who opened a trading account recently, he dump all his hard-earned savings of 8K on 1 REIT I'd split the 8K into 2 different counters at least
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Sep 25 2012, 11:35 AM
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Sep 25 2012, 11:37 AM
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Sep 25 2012, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 25 2012, 11:43 AM) So look at the layer of fees... you pay 2% to buy the Reit fund (distributor untung)...then pay the manager 1.5% to manage the fund (fund manager untung), and in the REIT holdings itself, the REIT is paying the managers 1.5%-2.0% to manage property (REIT manager untung) and also pay employees managing the REIT (holding company untung). so many fees.... WHY U BREAK MY DREAM BUBBLE |
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Sep 25 2012, 12:03 PM
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Sep 25 2012, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 25 2012, 01:11 PM) Don't wait too long... you never know how long you need to wait while the world passes you by... After u break my dream bubble...now u wanna poison me to click the "Buy" button “Far more money has been lost by investors preparing for corrections, or trying to anticipate corrections, than has been lost in corrections themselves.” - Peter Lynch |
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Sep 25 2012, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 25 2012, 01:33 PM) Added on September 25, 2012, 1:36 pm Just telling the reality mah.... market timers usually don't profit. Buy on valuations and fundamentals. If you invest in UT, read more on macro-economic and general valuation of the region you are buying. The managers have you covered on individual stocks, so you must see the big picture. So, what's ur view on Asia Ex-Japan small/mid caps? This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 25 2012, 02:44 PM |
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Sep 26 2012, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(Bedroomguitarist @ Sep 26 2012, 06:25 AM) Yes, unit trust products are more expensive than say invest directly to the securities (in this case a REIT). But think of the fees you paid to hire the Fund Manager to manage your risk -from inspecting the assets (REIT company, sponsors, building portfolio etc) to selecting the REITs -all these may require team of professionals with more experience, skills and sometimes out-right information. Direct investments, dividend yield alone can get 5-8% p.a. It's always cheaper to invest in stocks/REITs directly but one of the main purpose of buying UT funds are to diversify your risk and not hold to just one or a few stocks. Just my 2 cents But, without sufficient capital to achieve adequate diversification (assuming one is not a very good stock picker to consistently pick the few winners), UT is the way to go for many of us. Like for me, as long as my portfolio as a whole matches EPF returns, I'm happy. |
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Sep 26 2012, 10:12 AM
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Online brokers all competitive rates. Who still uses call-in brokers and pay RM40?
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Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM
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Sep 27 2012, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM) Good growth for the future.. can try Aberdeen Asian Smaller Companies Fund .. 3 yr +50.3% vs +4.6% benchmark. I bought into this 2 days ago Added on September 27, 2012, 10:36 am Well it is now 2004 points, couple more points to go, then the next support will be1600, at all time low. http://hwangim.com/project/hwang/media/201.../175228-451.pdf 3 years +77.19% Hope I'm not getting in at the top of the cliff Added on September 27, 2012, 10:38 am QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM) Added on September 27, 2012, 10:36 am Well it is now 2004 points, couple more points to go, then the next support will be1600, at all time low. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 27 2012, 10:38 AM |
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Sep 27 2012, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:42 AM) Looks good, but too concentrated in Malaysia and Singapore (>60%) which is not diversified enough for me. Both these countries have been bucking the trend... my current equity breakdown:BTW Singapore is confirmed to have technical recession in 2Q 2012 according to monetary authority of SG yesterday report. 60% Asia Ex-Japan+GEM 40% global (overweight US + Europe + Japan) within the 60%: 50% GEM (mainly large caps) 25% Asia Ex-Japan small-mid caps (but current allocation is overweight southeast Asian) 25% Asia Pac REITs This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 27 2012, 10:46 AM |
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Sep 27 2012, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:54 AM) Quite good distribution. I am more Asia skewed. Global so far I see the returns not so exiting.. No wonder Shanghai getting close to break 2,000 level got u excited 20% Malaysia (UT bought long time ago...) 50% Asia ex. Japan (UT) 15% US (via ETF) 15% China (UT) Hehehe.. Global funds at 40% is as downside protection...those are mainly high yield and big name large caps... This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 27 2012, 10:58 AM |
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 27 2012, 01:39 PM) I read a quote yesterday, it sounds something like this..."History have proven that people who stay invested earn XX times more than people who sit out and wait for a correction" |
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Sep 28 2012, 10:43 AM
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Sep 28 2012, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 28 2012, 02:14 PM) Added on September 28, 2012, 2:16 pm Indonesia is upcoming tiger .. but very volatile market, high inflation and unstable currency. Land prices here has gone 3x since 5 years ago... P/s since when you change to hello kitty avatar.. unbecoming fo you leh... changed back...Kitty too kawaii already to put as LYN avatar |
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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Sep 30 2012, 09:22 PM) What do you all think on AMB DIVIDEND TRUST FUND... I do have interest to invest using EPF money. Any suggestion? Thanks. Do consider Hwang Select Dividend Fund too.- Bigger fund size ==> lower Management Expenses Ratio FYI, AMB Dividend Trust Fund management is sub-ed by AMB to Hwang Investment Management Berhad...check it's prospectus and reports. |
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QUOTE(siew14 @ Oct 2 2012, 06:13 PM) Dear sifu, Expenses for UT 101:just a quick question, for sales charge, it is one time fee or every transaction you made ( additional investment) ???? Or it is depends on the fund??? Sales Charge - One time off upfront when u buy Switching fee - One time off whenever u perform switching Exit fee - One time off when u withdraw i.e. sell Management fee - Charged to the fund annually, accrued on daily basis - This is reflected in the NAV pricing of the fund, in a way u are paying for it without u knowing it, unlike the 3 above Some fund got 0% sales charge but charges u exit fee (e.g. AmDynamic Bond). Most funds charge SC but zero exit fee. Switching fee depends on the fund house. Management fee is applicable for ALL FUNDS. Faham? |
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QUOTE(siew14 @ Oct 2 2012, 08:00 PM) faham!! but if sales charge is one time off upfront, i buy the minimum unit then 2 months later buy more units... doing this way can save the cost no?? SC is always calculated as %or it suppose to be when ever you buy the unit, there wil be sales charge??? E.g. U buy RM1,000 SC 2% SC = RM1,000 x 2% = RM20 2 months later u buy RM500 SC = RM500 x 2% = RM10 SC is charged for EVERY PURCHASE made |
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 2 2012, 10:25 PM) Feel like asking fundsupermart to get some inside info on this.. Not sure if they can korek the info from am investment? Not to sure about this...with UT funds, the manager has a duty to manage the fund with investors' best interest in mind, but don't know if they are obliged to disclose the daily dealings/transactions/movements. Imagine if everyone is asking these sort of questions every day... |
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