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SUSPink Spider
post Aug 9 2012, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 9 2012, 05:51 PM)
So which stocks is on your radar?  brows.gif

You and me is the opposite. You migrate from stocks to UT and I reverse, migrate from UT to stocks.  laugh.gif
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Some not so well-known counters, steady high dividends, attractive P/E ph34r.gif

Damn it has gone up 6.5% since last week when I discovered it vmad.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Aug 9 2012, 06:18 PM
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post Aug 13 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Aug 13 2012, 09:19 PM)
This promotion is quite attractive especially for those that plans to top up/invest in equity. Wonder if I should make use of this promotion to invest or insist on waiting till after GE.
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Bro, diff between normal and discounted SC, just a minor crash will wipe it all out laugh.gif
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post Aug 13 2012, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Aug 13 2012, 10:28 PM)
Can't wait for GE done... Interesting to see how is the damage done from the results. Then we can talk based on experiences and maturity. Just a thought only.


Added on August 13, 2012, 10:29 pm
Keep the bullets for the bargain war...
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I'm keeping ammo for dividend stocks shopping brows.gif
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post Aug 13 2012, 10:53 PM

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Wong Seafood, GE-induced KLCI crash is a wet dream come true (hopefully) for many of us...janganlah ambil baldi air sejuk simbah on our head so soon la sad.gif
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post Aug 13 2012, 11:06 PM

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I'm not gonna withdraw all my FDs, sell all my UTs and dive headfirst when KLCI kaboom la, my ammo for KLCI is barely 25% of my UT portfolio. laugh.gif

Just wanna try to snap up some good divvy counters when it happens icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 13 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 13 2012, 11:12 PM)
er.. Pinky, 25% of yr UT portfolio only (eg. yr UT portfolio is say 60% of investable assets and thus, it's 25% * 60%?)  icon_rolleyes.gif 
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25% of your investable assets  shocking.gif ?
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it's the former, so that IF kaboom does indeed happens, my investment portfolio would be 20% KLCI stocks 80% UTs icon_rolleyes.gif

I kena burnt once (not very badly lar...continue reading this to see why I'm not putting too much faith in direct stock investing...), not that keen to be too gung-ho with stocks anymore. Saw with my own eyes how stock manipulation happens... shakehead.gif

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post Aug 14 2012, 12:03 AM

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Sometime in 2010 I was exploring trading...

I was holding this large cap gaming stock
No negative news flow whatsoever
All of a sudden there was this huge volume traded that day, selling pressure was tremendous it's just like a freefall
Broke past my stop loss price, and so I sold
Next day it rallied
If this is not manipulation, tell me what is this shakehead.gif

Thus, I gave up on trading. Long-term value investing for dividend still can be considered. Only when kaboom happens will I consider to enter biggrin.gif
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post Aug 15 2012, 09:31 AM

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My ammo for a local equity fund tumbuh cendawan and wild bush already doh.gif


Added on August 15, 2012, 9:34 amand those waiting to enter US equity positions when Dow drops below 12,000 also must be doh.gif now laugh.gif

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post Aug 15 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(aronteh @ Aug 15 2012, 12:44 PM)
This where many will get hit by chasing the market, new high also very tempting for newbies. Must not miss the boat. We must be patient loh.
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Yeah, what is lost is lost, if we start chasing now, we might end up entering at the peak right before the slump. doh.gif
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post Aug 17 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Aug 16 2012, 06:29 AM)
Yup... Be careful with the markets now as it cost high now, the risk could be high if it fall then. Me also watch it for now... just spend based on my cash affordability with careful and low amount. In case the markets keep go high and high... Huhuhuhuhu...


Added on August 16, 2012, 6:33 am
Heheheheheheh... Things change and not happened as what mass told huh. Still not dare enough to shoot as well as of now.

I do not know when ler....?
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And it goes up AGAIN doh.gif

Underweight equities for now...25% sleep.gif
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post Aug 17 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 17 2012, 12:02 PM)
should I switch and look profit for my MY exposure funds? No news yet on election?
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Jib-kor will delay as long as he can lar rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 19 2012, 05:13 PM)
Uptrend for more than 2 months already.. Even my energy and gold also showing uptrend now..
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For the past 1-2 months, even the most rubbish portfolio would go up laugh.gif
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post Aug 20 2012, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Aug 19 2012, 10:22 PM)
guys...pls help educate me...why mutual fund want to announce dividends and then eventually the NAV is the same?
i mean, they give you 'dividend' units...but then as usual..the price of the fund will be lowered...

why do this in the first place? anyone really understand how this works? does it really benefit consumers like us?

thanks!
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Some (not all) mutual fund distributors allow u to choose:
(1) to re-invest dividends
(2) to received dividends in cash

I believe most of us here belong to category (1), as such dividends do not affect us in any way.

But for those who chose (2), dividends would be a source of cash flow/income to them.

Of course, whether u choose (1) or (2), your net worth position would remain the same.

Illustrated examples...

Mr One invests $100m in ABC Fund.
ABC Fund grew 10% in the past 12 months.
ABC Fund declare dividend.
Mr One elect to reinvest.
His holdings in ABC Fund would be $110m

Mr Two invests $100m in ABC Fund.
ABC Fund grew 10% in the past 12 months.
ABC Fund declare dividend.
Mr Two elect to receive dividend in cash, thus he will receive a dividend cheque (say, $8m)
His holdings in ABC Fund would be $102m, cash on hand $8m

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post Aug 23 2012, 09:49 AM

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I'm just using simple average annual return on capital invested...

Profit / Average Invested Money x (1 year / Years Invested)
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post Aug 23 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Angel On Fire @ Aug 23 2012, 02:26 PM)
The various economic indicators out of China is very bad. One of my China stocks plunged 30% in 2 days after reporting a loss.

The there's the fiscal cliff in US. And Europe isn't getting better.

Yet everytime there is bad news out of China/Europe/US, markets go higher because Hopium addicts aka traders and speculators expect more stimulus.

It's a difficult environment to invest in  doh.gif
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- keep more cash
- go easy on equity exposure in your portfolio

that's all we can do sweat.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Angel On Fire @ Aug 23 2012, 02:56 PM)
And yet I am afraid of missing out on bargains.

Greed and fear  sweat.gif
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Park your cash in FDs/money market/short-dated bond funds, so that u don't lose too much in the meantime icon_rolleyes.gif

and when hell breaks loose, it's time to go all out brows.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Angel On Fire @ Aug 23 2012, 03:01 PM)
Mr Wong,

I'm 60% equities, 40% cash. Currently adding 5% stock exposure every month.

If I'm into Singapore and China stocks, what's your recommended strategy for next few months?


Added on August 23, 2012, 3:02 pm
Yup, am currently putting the cash in a trust a/c that earns 2.5% interest  nod.gif
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u buy STOCKS instead of funds? unsure.gif
Oi, salah thread, sini FUND Investment Corner tongue.gif

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 23 2012, 03:14 PM)
yeah.. the problem is WHEN and HOW DEEP a discount/lelong sweat.gif
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...and how low is really low...
...and do u really have the guts to jump in when everyone else thinks its the end of the (financial) world sweat.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(silentemotion @ Aug 23 2012, 03:23 PM)
Usually need to set a target as to when jumping in to buy stocks e.g. 30% down then buy slight, another 20% then buy more.
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In gambling dictionary, that is called Martingale tongue.gif

What if u run out of ammo to buy as it continues to go lower and lower? whistling.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(silentemotion @ Aug 23 2012, 03:36 PM)
Yup. there are many What if conditions. Thats why i more prefer to invest in dy and stable stocks like pbb, nestle, dlady, carlsbg and etc etc. Chances of all these stocks going down 50% are relatively lower compare to other higher risk stocks like knm, time, timecom and etc.

So my strategy usually will be 30%-20%-20%. I will go in more during the final stage of 20%. It's a golden chance to buy if a good stock like dlady fall 50%. This is the chance for you to increase wealth and at the same time, gaining more passive income via dividend.

I forgot to mention, this 30%-20%-20% only applicable to high dividend yield and blue chip stocks. Other than that, i do not recommend unless your v confident on it.
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Care to elaborate your 30-20-20?

U mean if it drops 30%, u buy
drop another 20%, u buy
drop another 20%, buy A LOT

??? unsure.gif


Added on August 23, 2012, 3:44 pmHigh DY stocks, drop 20% also rare, 50% is fire sale already laugh.gif

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post Aug 23 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 23 2012, 03:59 PM)
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Wong Seafood, I thought u said Shanghai CI at <2,000 then u will start firing on all cylinders? Now 1,900? tongue.gif

My FI 70/30 EQ portfolio returning somewhere around 7% per year...still lotsa room for improvement? Am I too conservative in my targeted return? hmm.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Aug 23 2012, 04:05 PM

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