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kingkong81
post Nov 28 2008, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(allwerp @ Nov 24 2008, 10:01 PM)
thanks kingkong81 for the explanation..is there any way to reduce or negotiate for a reduction for the service charge??i'm currently paying 5% for PEF..and also can you please elaborate further on how to claim back our tax differences???many thanks
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Juz checked with my friend who is studying ACCA...regarding the filing for tax differences...

U can do it when u file your income tax. There is a section where you have to declare dividend income. So after u calculate everything and determine in wat tax category you are in...you can file for the claiming back of the differences.

This is something on Single-Tier Dividend System...If the company is using the single-tier dividend tax system, u cannot claim back the differences in taxing of the dividend. Usually the company will announce if they are using the single-tier system for which i think Public Mutual is not under this system.

On another note...you might want to file to claim back your dividend tax differences...but there are chances that it will raise the eyes & ears of the LHDN ppl...especially if you have significant amount of $$ invested.
Once, my upline try to claim back the differences...it was hell for her...LHDN come & check all her documents, her payment for cars, etc etc up to few years back, maybe she got a lot in UT whistling.gif . So now she rather just ignore it...


Added on November 29, 2008, 10:17 pmPublic Mutual Declaration of Distribution for PIBF & PFEDF

Public Mutual is pleased to announce Final Distributions to unitholders of Public Islamic Balanced Fund (“PIBF”) and Public Far-East Dividend Fund (“PFEDF”) respectively for the financial year end of 30 November 2008. The distribution are as follows:


Fund Gross Distribution
PIBF 1.00 sen per unit
PFEDF 0.35 sen per unit


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post Dec 1 2008, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(mustang @ Dec 1 2008, 08:56 PM)
Usually after we submit the form to apply for PM UT and paid the money. Will there be any follow up letters from PM saying our transaction is successful and will send some documents to its subscribers?
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You will receive a statement from Public Mutual for your funds...usually end of the month.

Besides...if there are no transactions (buy, sell, switch) being made for any of your funds...you will not receive any statement of your funds for that particular month. You will only receive a statement, which usually sent to you during end of the month if transactions are being made to any of your funds.


To know faster, you can check with your agent or you can call customer service directly 03-6279 6900
If opening a new fund...usually the account will be up within 1-2 weeks time.

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post Dec 1 2008, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 1 2008, 10:42 PM)
You'll also receive interim statement; twice a year if I remembered correctly.
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Yep...once interim, once final financial year
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post Dec 7 2008, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Dec 7 2008, 12:51 PM)
Hello everyone. I'm a 18 yrs old newbie that saves around 250~350 everymonth into my CIMB Islamic savings account. Are there any better ways of saving that give me more return(atlest more than saving account) and with no risk/little risk ? The purpose of my saving is for marriage or buying property(when I'm around 25/26).
Thank you !
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When you mentioned INVESTMENT...then surely it will come with risk. No investment is without risk...just that how risky it is.

High risk, high return. Low risk, low return.

If you wish for a safe investment...FD is the best...but the interest rate is getting more & more puny

Government-backed unit trust....like ASN, ASB...r consider quite safe as well...

Else, independent UT (PM, CIMB, UOB, etc, etc) will also offers different risk categories of funds that might suit you.

You have time on your side...with almost 7-8 yrs down the road, so i suppose starting early is the best. So, u can try to plan out something to grow your money better (or at least not shrinking with inflation)

Anyway, it is good to know youngsters like you have already starting to save & think about your future financial planning. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Keep it up wink.gif
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post Dec 9 2008, 12:21 AM

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[quote=B u B u,Dec 8 2008, 03:04 PM]
[quote=darkknight81,Dec 8 2008, 02:45 PM]
Lol save inside ASW, ASM easy and moderate return. Average 7% interest. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on December 8, 2008, 2:52 pm

But I heard ppl saying ASW and ASM are sold out ?
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That is d major downside to all these ASN, ASB, etc.

Always sold out...in fact, rumours said that insiders mostly bought all...and worst...u hav to queue so long in order to buy.

But it is all because it is safe safe with gov at d back & giving decent returns
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post Dec 9 2008, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(mustang @ Dec 9 2008, 09:03 PM)
So how do we know when is the good time to sell? Any charts or statistics to refer to? If yes how to interpret it?
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Though timing in investment is very important...however, we can never sell at the highest or buy at the lowest. You can use some of those share market analysis tools to help out, but it is difficult for laymen like us, understanding is one thing, learning to use it is another thing!! Therefore, it is very tedious job...

One of the best way is to set your own target...if u set return of 30%, once it reached, then you can sell to do some profit-taking. If you think the market will still go up...u can consider selling in batches.

well, u might feel awful that the market went up further after you sell, but hey...at least it is profit!!! U will feel much better if the market went down after u sell. In short, thats human...always greedy & always fear

Therefore...fear when people greed...sell when the market is on super bull....just like 2007

Greed when people fear...like now
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post Dec 9 2008, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 9 2008, 09:12 PM)
We will never know when'll be the next super bull. tongue.gif
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Yes...and we never when it will end until we are deep in the bear run.

Similarly, we never know when this bear is going to be tired & start hibernating.

So, set your target!

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post Dec 10 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:17 PM)
Utilize your paid upfront service charge of 5.5% to understand the fund that you have invested or been investing. It's your right to dig information from your servicing agent.
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Though I am an agent as well...I am 100% agree with this statement.

at least you r aware of how your funds r doing. Constant communications with your agent can help them serve you better, as they know wat is your needs
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post Dec 11 2008, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(teniqcnerd @ Dec 11 2008, 06:24 PM)
Guys, I would post some questions here. I am an mutual fund investor and I think most of all the investors out are worry about the world economy right now.

As recently we heard about 3 giant in US needed backup or they will fall flat to the ground and just a few days ago SONY announced they will cut 8000 jobs.

Well the question is should I keep continue to keep what investment that I am having now or should I sell it now?
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I think b00n has given quite a comprehensive answer.

In any case...if you follow the market & look back long enuf... Market is running like a cycle...

When it reached too high...it will go down...
When it fell too low...it will go back up...

The main unknown here is WHEN??? no 1 knows....but we know it will surely go back up.

It is understandable in your fear...so do we all...not many people have personally witness 1997 crisis before (at least I am not), so the fear is normal.

But in investment we have to be discipline enuf to stick to our goal...in Unit Trust...long term growth.
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post Dec 14 2008, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(mustang @ Dec 11 2008, 09:03 PM)
So meaning we need to always check with our agents from time to time? Or the agent will update us.. If there is a way to look at it ourselves it will be faster and easier?  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(ohserena @ Dec 14 2008, 02:55 AM)
For mutual fund or unit trust, can check from daily newspaper ler....no need to call agent from time to time.
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If you wanna check on prices...juz logon into Public Mutual Website, they update the prices daily. For local funds, u can see the price on the night itself...around 8pm+. For funds with foreign countries investment it is on T+1 basis. Means u will see Monday price on Tuesday (usually after 11am).

For newspaper...the pricing is T+3...means you will only see monday price on Wednesday newspaper.

Agent can give you a more comprehensive update than just prices...can let you know the % return,
else u juz calculate yourself from prices oso can, but when the there are a lot transactions...then it is quite difficult
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post Dec 29 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(chuken123 @ Dec 29 2008, 06:40 PM)
can i switch my PBCPEF to PMMF or PIAEF or PDSF ? ant charges ?
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U cannot switch from a PB series fund to Public series fund...

switching can only be from PB series to PB series

Public series to public series
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post Jan 16 2009, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(jubilee_trader @ Jan 16 2009, 11:07 AM)
have you guys heard about PPP? Private Placement Program. its bank guaranteed.. but you need large fund.. like usd10million....profit is by weekly...50-70%
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By the week!!! shocking.gif shocking.gif Wow!!

In any case...like u said...large capital USD 10million

How many ppl hav that $$ in malaysia...maybe use fingers & toes oso can count laugh.gif laugh.gif

Not for small investors like most of us
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post Jan 21 2009, 10:14 PM

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There is no announcement on the lower service charge for using Public Mutual Online.

Until then, we shall assume the service charges remains the same.

For the benefits of the Public Mutual Online....it has been discussed before in the following thread. Please check it out.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/511793/+1640


QUOTE(allwerp @ Jan 21 2009, 09:25 PM)
public mutual just came out with public mutual online....what's the benefit to investors like us? less service charge????
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post Feb 27 2009, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Feb 27 2009, 07:23 PM)
Some international advisors are recommending DIVIDEND funds in this bad economic climate.

Are there any such available here?

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i'm not too sure whether the DIvidend funds mentioned by the mentioned international advisors will be the same as wat i know so far...but this is wat i understand:

DividenD FUnds are basically funds that will invest in good-dividend yielding stocks + they might go for blue chips as well.

We do have a lot of dividend funds available...they usually aiming at giving steady income & respectable capital growth, and usually in moderate risk category or slightly lower.

They can have all kinds of name...like public mutual (pub Far-East Div Fund, Pub Islamic Fund, etc) as well as from other fund houses as well (not being bias, just that i'm more familiar with PM funds)...

So, will be better to check their investment profile to determine whether it is in "DIvidend fund" category
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QUOTE(toobad @ Apr 26 2009, 10:19 PM)
Just wondering if it is justified paying the so called management fees, when most of the actively managed funds are being hit so badly now.

I mean whats the point of giving them money when we can just buy the index for a whole lot cheaper?

Any comments?
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Actually the management fees r mainly for the brokerage commission & other cost incur to manage the funds.

Wat is more are usually the service charge.

Generally management fees range from 1 - 1.5%

No matter how bad the fund is being hit, they still need to run the fund right?

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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Apr 29 2009, 03:12 PM)
Admin please move this post if it is not correct.

One question, can I withdraw my public mutual fund without going through my agent? FYI, this agent is my relative, talk a lot, if i withdraw now sure he ask many questions. I wanna avoid that. Possible?
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YES you can...

All you need to do is to go to ANY PUBLIC MUTUAL BRANCH around you...

You just need to get & fill in a REPURCHASE FORM...& submit it at the branch.

You are done.

It will take less than 10 business day for u to get back the $$, if you are Mutual Gold, 3 business day

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Jul 10 2009, 09:49 AM)
Still observing the price ..  brows.gif . But I hope I'll not miss the low price to enter later ...

Thanks for the advice
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Personally think your mom should not engaged in too high risk of investment due to her age factor.

In terms of unit trust funds...should go for something in moderate to low risk type of funds.
Eg. PITTIKAL as previously mentioned, PIDF, PRSF...even in terms of balanced funds can also be consider. (fr PMutual aspects). ASB/ASN etc are some good options too.

I supposed your mom investment should be looking in terms of preserving her wealth, while giving the opportunity for continuous income (i.e. distribution) or even capital growth.


just my 2cents wink.gif

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post Dec 28 2009, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(wyyew @ Dec 28 2009, 11:02 AM)
hi all , just want to ask anyone who withdraw from EPF to invest into pb fund. If unfortunately, I am passed away. How the pbfund at there ?? will it return it back to our EPF . or pbfund has another nomination form to fill up?

thank for advices.
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If u passed away...it will be sold off & return to EPF.

Your nomination will follow on what your EPF has stated.


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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 29 2012, 06:57 PM)
To all Mutual Fund / Unit Trust agents,

Just to check / clarify.

For withdrawals from EPF for Mutual Fund investments, I was just told by Public Mutual that EPF does NOT accept digital printout of ICs which were scanned into my PC and printed out - ie. "must be photostated".

True / False?
Note: I've just written to EPF as this withdrawal was for my sis & I.

IF True, this is truly MALAYSIA BOLEH doh.gif
Are we supposed to go back to the stone age?
ie. Abandon digital and info age, go back to photocopying and er.. these days not that easy to find photocopy shops around, especially during off work hours.
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I dunno how it do not accept digitally scanned IC & printed out black & white in A4...
As long as it is clear, front & back in 1 page...thats all...

This is first time i hear this...

Maybe, the agent just wanna play safe...coz EPF r quite strict, even some little smudges on the form, they oso reject.
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Low risk investment...

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