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post May 28 2012, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 27 2012, 11:32 PM)
yah...know the facts...but tough pick here...actually kidsave was lagging for the past 1-2 years, until this year when the returns pickup again...

osk, every switch have to pay rm25, whereas hwang is free switching i think.
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Yea, OSK-UOB funds switching fee is RM25 per switch nod.gif

It's pretty obvious...when Asia Ex-Japan outperformed, so will KidSave, though not by much as their overseas allocation rarely even exceed 20%

IMHO, if u already have significant exposure to Asia Ex-Japan thru other funds, buy Hwang. If you don't, buy KidSave. Just my 2 sen worth icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 28 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 28 2012, 04:42 PM)
Hi Pink,

What if for people (in my case) that would like to start investing in their first equity fund? I kinda prefer fund that invest more in the Asia market though. KidSave or Hwang, which would be more suitable for me (in your POV).
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For starter, KidSave is highly recommended nod.gif

But it's not an equity fund...it's a "Balanced" fund...it invests 40-60% of its assets in equities with remainder in fixed income/bonds

But as u learn more and start to build up a diversified portfolio of funds...u MIGHT wanna ditch Balanced funds altogether... icon_idea.gif
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post May 30 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Malformed @ May 30 2012, 11:37 AM)
Is it suggested for me to remove my SI and monitor the trend and enter by my own? What about times when you see the NAV drops to a point where you think that you want to put in more money? Should we maintain and only utilize what has been accumulated for the fund?
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SI takes out the emotion from the investing nod.gif

If u THINK u can control your emotion + stay disciplined + got time to do monitoring + reading up financial news and do analysis on your own, DIY without SI icon_idea.gif
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post May 30 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Malformed @ May 30 2012, 01:20 PM)
Basically means that we purchase more than the allocated amount we put in, but as I understand now, you have a cache aside for this purpose which is value / trend hunting.
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For your reference, every month I put RM500+/- into FSM, RM200-300 would go into equity and/or bond funds, with the balance in money market funds. When I see an "opportunity" e.g. big slump in market, I will switch into equity from money market. bruce.gif
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post May 30 2012, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(hafiez @ May 30 2012, 06:12 PM)
A mutual fund giving out dividend.

Should invest before dividend or after dividend?

Taiko opinion? brows.gif

Im planning to go after dividend because the price will be cheap.
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Bang, divvy for UT is meaningless and got no actual effect on the value of the fund doh.gif
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post May 31 2012, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 31 2012, 09:07 AM)
Pink, as I read from your old post. You been investing in Hwang for awhile right? Any reason why you said KidsSave and not Hwang in your earlier reply?
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My favourite Hwang fund is Hwang Select Income Fund, which invests in MAINLY in Malaysian assets, asset allocation 70% fixed income 30% equities. Last time bought thru EON Bank, have not been topping up since the Customer Service officer of my nearest branch resigned when Hong Leong took over. It's not available thru FSM, yet. doh.gif

My earlier reply was about equity funds if I'm not mistaken. hmm.gif

Hwang Select Opportunity is not bad too...invests mainly in Malaysian equities but with flexibility to invest up to 30% in foreign equities. icon_idea.gif
And it's already available thru FSM rclxms.gif

Hwang Select Balanced Fund is a pure 100% Malaysian assets fund...whereas KidSave Trust have flexibility to diversify up to 30% in Asia Ex-Japan assets. For a starter investor who do not have many funds in their portfolio yet, I'd recommend KidSave Trust. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 31 2012, 09:43 AM
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post May 31 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 31 2012, 03:27 PM)
You're said so because KidSave investment is expose to other Asia assets is it?

I'm looking at both Select Opportunity and KidSave now. One is balanced fund; the other is equity fund. Will see how the Malaysia markets show after the GE before I decide to invest Hwang or KidSave.
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Both has similar geographical allocation i.e. about 70% in MYR assets 30% in foreign assets, the only difference being SOF = Equity Fund whereas KidSave = Balanced

I'd suggest invest in BOTH Hwang SOF & AmDynamic Bond...both winners in their respective fund categories icon_idea.gif
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post May 31 2012, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 31 2012, 06:56 PM)
I do have investment in AmDynamic as a matter of fact smile.gif

Well, hopefully the GE is soon. No GE, no equity investment.
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U and me think alike. But I'm planning to start on the month of GE itself, then over the course of 1 year after GE do monthly DCA icon_idea.gif
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post May 31 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 31 2012, 07:12 PM)
Like how Mr. Wong does his investment too.

As I know, you have AmDynamic, Hwang Select Income Fund etc. do you have Hwang SOF?
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Told ya, not yet. Like u, waiting for GE to come and pass laugh.gif

Also got OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond Fund icon_idea.gif

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post May 31 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ May 31 2012, 10:02 PM)
Just wanna know... since OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond Fund just recently announced RM0.0085 dividend payout, how does it work under FSM? Will be reinvest back again in the fund, rite? How long until FSM shown the unit we received for this dividend payout?  hmm.gif
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Bila announced? blink.gif

I taktau ini nia hmm.gif


Added on May 31, 2012, 10:36 pmOoh just saw it...no wonder its NAV dropped that day laugh.gif doh.gif

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post May 31 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ May 31 2012, 10:40 PM)
Need to wait for few days before they showed it in FSM, am i rite?
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Yeah, around 1 week if I'm not mistaken hmm.gif

Kira ok lor...dividend for Hwang fund I bought thru EON Bank pernah delay for months doh.gif
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QUOTE(kabal82 @ May 31 2012, 11:03 PM)
Months?!  shakehead.gif
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Yea, cos Hwang Select Income Fund usually declares divvy twice a year...

...and I remember receiving dividend tax voucher for dividend no. 1, then 1-2 weeks later receive tax voucher for dividend no. 2...that's how bad it was laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Jun 1 2012, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 1 2012, 08:28 PM)
laugh.gif "cheaper, good!" <in auntie voice>
(suckers playing into the "price" instead of value)
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Spot-on, Wong Seafood!!! laugh.gif
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post Jun 5 2012, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(dewVP @ Jun 5 2012, 12:37 AM)
For those using FSM, how does it works?

Create an account, and link one of your bank account to FSM to buy UT is it? Or?
Thinking to start using FSM. Thanks!
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Not that I want to be harsh but have u really tried to fully explore the FSM website? From Day 1 til now I get answer to all my questions from the site itself.
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post Jun 5 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(jtdc @ Jun 5 2012, 10:12 AM)
Yes.  The thing here is in FSM, the quantity of the holdings is not yet adjusted even as of this time.
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Takes about 1-2 weeks for the dividend/unit split to be credited into investors' account...this is not unique to FSM...even some banks have this "waiting period"...
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 5 2012, 10:30 AM)
Good time to buy Kenanga Growth fund? hmm.gif
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I'm more interested in Hwang Select Opportunity Fund...about 70% Malaysia and balance in Asia Ex-Japan icon_idea.gif

Kenanga Growth Fund is only strong for past 2-3 years when risk appetite never really recovered...longer term track record Hwang is superior flex.gif
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QUOTE(jtdc @ Jun 5 2012, 10:40 AM)
I kinda regret not buying Kenanga before as I was paying for other things.  Thanks for the Hwang Fund suggestion though.  Could get some for diversification.
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Unless you also got other Asia Ex-Japan and/or Emerging Market funds...you're missing out on some strong Singapore and HK companies if u pick Kenanga Growth nod.gif
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QUOTE(Party2DMax @ Jun 5 2012, 11:07 AM)
For FSM users, the KGF holdings will be updated by end of today.

Meanwhile, you can also win some unit trusts.
BTW, just to add a disclaimer, I am a staff of FSM and I just wanted to personally share some freebies~
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hey then help me find out also OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond Fund bila dividend will be allocated? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(lipton tea @ Jun 5 2012, 04:28 PM)
Hie newbie to investment here,

was browsing through the fundsupermart website and have decided to allocate the below fund to invest for myself:-

malaysian fixed income 32% ..............             amdynamic bond                        ( RM 6400)
asian fixed income 18%  ...............                  Alliance Asian Bond Fund             (RM 3600)
osk-oub kidsave trust 20%  ...............              kidsave trust                              (RM 4000)
malaysian equity 30%      ...............                 Kenanga Growth Fund                 (RM 6000)

term: about 3-5 years....

Okay say if i have rm 20k and want to invest in those funds i listed above.....are the calculations correct?
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I noted a few problems:
- over-exposure to Malaysian equities
- virtually zero exposure to Asia Ex-Japan equities
- TOTALLY zero exposure laugh.gif to global (US, Japan, Europe and Emerging Markets) equities. We have some strong companies with solid fundamentals and strong financial performance there. Just that sentiment is bad currently. icon_idea.gif

I recommend to lower exposure to Alliance Asian Bond Fund and AmDynamic Bond, allocate some to OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond Fund icon_rolleyes.gif

Well, just my 1 sen worth tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 5 2012, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(lipton tea @ Jun 5 2012, 05:51 PM)
pink spider, looking at the FSM, under the 3 yr and 5 yr ratio, Asia Ex-Japan equities is not recorded...seems dont know if its suitable category to invest in? ( what i can see is Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Shariah Equity Fund AND for balanced one is OSK-UOB Asia Active Allocation Fund), only for the 3 year ratio it shows 14% and 15.04%
The 5th yr its show a " - " . So its only good for 3 years and have to sell immediately after that?

OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond Fund is good, okay will include that in and lower the exposure to Alliance Asian Bond Fund and AmDynamic Bond.......but global exposure Alliance Global Equities Fund AND RHB Global Fortune Fund  got negative returns for its 5 year ratio.... shocking.gif
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hello...PAST PERFORMANCE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS AN INDICATOR OF FUTURE PERFORMANCE shakehead.gif

years back Emerging Markets esp China jumped like mad, and then ppl also wanna join in the bandwagon...only to realise that the peak has come and past doh.gif

What if the same happens to Malaysian equities? rolleyes.gif

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