hi there, want to know peoples opinion about which manager got the best buy in this season
If u play Football manager, u always wanted to buy for less money but gain a lot..
haha, in real life also the same
so lets vote for the player best buy this season!!

Please use this format...

player name:
price :
Reason to be a big bargain:

let me start first

Player name: Bakary Sagna
price : around 7 million pound
Reason to be a big bargain: he is turning into the best right back in EPL

Vote for ur choice!!
u can name 2 or more players


CURRENT TOP BEST BUY/BARGAIN

STRIKER(GOALS PER POUNDS RATIO)
1. ROUQE SANTA CRUZ
2. EL NINO TORRES
3. ????

MIDFIELDER( PASS COMPLETED, ASSIST, INFLUENCE IN TEAM)
1. ???
2. ???
3. ???

DEFENDER ( ROCK SOLID DEFENCE, MINIMAL MISTAKE, CRUCIAL TACKLE )
1. BAKARY SAGNA
2.
3.

Anyway here are the review Season 07/08 Best buy from Soccerner.com
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...ab1pos1&cc=4716

This post has been edited by vivi99: May 15 2008, 04:26 PM

fernando torres..
no doubt about that

player: Fernando 'El Nino' Torres
price: forgot - 20 mil?
reason: 1st season, scored so many goals - need any other more reason?

player name: Roque Santa Cruz From Bayern to Blackburn
price :£3.5 million
Reason to be a big bargain: 36 appreance 19 goals in first season with Blacburn...

El Nino get my vote
Rush need worry now bcos El Nino will break his record

it has got to be Santa Cruz.
he was on what...3.8 million?

and scores nearly 20 goals.

what a machine

Nando Torres.

Remind me of RvN, gelled with the team almost immediately in debut season.

Me also go for Torres. Tevez and Santa Cruz be in my list too.

Manchester United put forward a proposed two-year loan deal for Tévez to the Premier League, which was approved on 10 August

tevez is not a signing, united just loan him from kia

santa cruz, sagna n torres...

that why i corrected his post

Santa Cruz
3.5 million
24 goal in first season
better than torres coz santa cruz playing for blackburn with average player
torres great but got very good supplier such as gerrard,babel

def santa cruz for me.

guys..only BPL player only?..no from Laliga?Serie A?Bundesliga?..
btw Luca Toni/Ribery also a bargain signing from Bayern..

santa cruz should be the best bargain i would say. but if you take the transfer fee out of the equation, i'd go for torres anytime. defoe is quite a great signing as well for portsmouth.

Yup, I would say Santa Cruz as well. 3.5 million for 24 goals (I check soccernet, it is 23 ) is a real steal.

santa cruz and el nino

3+ golas from el nino speak for his worth. considering that it was his 1st season in bpl and he missed quite a number of match too.

credit should be given to roque santa cruz. he managed to bang in 2+ golas while playing for blackburn.

best buy/signing = torres

best bargain = santa cruz

yes i agreed with u but i more like RSC coz he's low profile striker... must watch striker next season...

Santa Cruz for his GOALS/MILLION ratio

He will do even better playing for a bigger club.

i will go with Santa cruz as well, but wait, this player need to overcome 2nd season syndrome...

This post has been edited by nizamhameed: May 6 2008, 01:02 PM

My vote would have to be Torres. He has an excellent season with us. He need to improve on his goal scoring ratio in the away game as he only managed 3 goals in the EPL only.

i will go for santa cruz also..

torres for me

for me is sagna,robbie santa cruz..
both player with low amount of money can get such top quality already.

Without a doubt, Fernando Torres. Why?

1) His signing was hyped up by the press, no doubt but his goalscoring record was all but impressive for Atletico. Fans were influenced by the media and expectations were high but several pundits had their doubts. After all, Fernando Morientes before him was a gem and scoring goals for fun all about Europe but came up short in the Premiership. This was a striker whose goals helped Monaco reach the finals of the 2004 Champions League Final no less. Needless to say, Fernando Torres has far exceeded my expectations.

2) He has adapted to the league like a fish to water. I did not expect him to be this strong and powerful. Yes, he may go down under light tackles so far but it's not everyday you see a slender kid from Spain out-muscle big blokes like Bikey.

He is selling more T-Shirts than Steven Gerrard, even in Liverpool. The fans sing his song every game even when he is on the bench. He has earned the respect of former Liverpool greats like Kenny Dalglish, Greame Souness and Ian Rush. He has scored more goals in one season than any other Liverpool striker since Robbie Fowler, despite playing alone up-front for much of the time.

Roque Santa Cruz was a shrewd signing no doubt but Fernando Torres far eclipses him in overall ability and my vote goes to him.

So true, totally agree with your facts.

true,true!

for me, it is santa cruz n torres too..

pardon me if i ruin the party here,but the media hype and the fact knowledge we know bout torres,it gives me a little surprise by how much his goal ratio compare to the strikers in BPL .but wait,santa cruz was come out from nowhere,he has helped blackburn to be in top 10 clubs in the league with an average quality that blackburn have (no offense).Torres where else get supplied everytime and actually get centered by his mates to rely him to score.

If I may offer my opinion:

1) Fernando Torres was talked about more because he plays in a league more people are familiar with, the La Liga. Roque Santa Cruz has already played 57 games for Paraguay and had made 155 appearances for Bayern Munich. I have seen him play for Paraguay before though not very often. I don't think many had even heard of him as he was playing in a less popular league. My point is, he didn't exactly come from "nowhere". That and Blackburn do have David Bentley (England U-21), Tugay (Turkish International), Matt Derbyshire (England U-21), Morten Gamst Pedersen (Norwegian International) and Benni McCarthy (South African International) in attack. They may not be the highest scorers in the league but they aren't toothless either. Brett Emerton is also a pretty decent passer of the ball.

2) Torres does receive passes but bear in mind that seldom does he score tap-ins or arrive just in the nick of time to nod a cross in. Much of the time he gets the ball 30 - 40 yards out and makes a beeline to goal by himself. Ask anyone who has watched him play with some degree of regularity. He creates a lot of his own chances.

3) It's true that there was more hype on Torres because he played in the La Liga, and he was signing for one of the "big four". If Man Utd had gone for Santa Cruz, you can bet he'd be headline news. Having said that, don't you think there was much more pressure on Torres to perform and score goals? Optimistic fans expected him to score 20 odd goals in his first season and he wasn't exactly prolific before signing for Liverpool. He averaged a mere goal every 3 games for Atletico. If that had continued, he would only have scored what? 13 goals for us in the league? What expectations were there on Santa Cruz? How much pressure was he burdened with?




This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 6 2008, 05:11 PM

torres + santa cruz for me

well, it depends on how u see it. some people see santa cruz as the best buy as he has been an extremely shrewd signing for blackburn. 4 million = 20 goals? i mean, come on thats a pretty darn good deal.

others see torres as the best buy as he has scored goals for fun this season and has been liverpool's brightest hope this season.

it depends on how a person sees it i guess. i personaly feel santa cruz is the best buy this season, but torres isnt tht far off. neither is sagna

roque santa cruz is the best bargain for 07/08 season

to me, best buy = best bargain = best player value for money...

no doubt this player gonna be santa cruz..torres perform above expectations this season for liverpool, but he come with some expectation and high transfer fees

Besides these 2(torres, RSC), elano is quite a bargain..

for me its sagna & santa cruz...

torres dont score in every match.... his high goals are like wat?? inconsistent.... sometimes 1 match din score at all... sometimes 1 match score 3-4 goals.... i dont know... maybe im wrong.... lol...

Torres

R. Santa Cruz

Bakary Sagna

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and I suppose Santa Cruz scores in every match?

Torres has at least scored in his last 8 Premiership appearances.

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Added on May 6, 2008, 5:44 pmI just have to add that I find your statement rather baffling.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 6 2008, 05:44 PM

There is no striker that scores in every match(even the time afonso alves at hevenreen) not scoring 1 match doesnt mean inconsistent...

between this good 2 striker, only the best can score against United this season...
sorry no offense.just my 2 cents...

what makes u think that only by scoring against united considered the best striker?jus bcos u r a manutd fans?Eto din score against Man utd in CL, is he 1 of the best? dun make me laugh. PLS!

torres, santa cruz, sagna will be best buy of the season

have to mention hargreave also, although he not much playing all season but he play vital role for MU for second half of season

huhuhu i think many other fans will quote my posting...
Eto din score so he's not the best...
i said between 2 striker only... ok2 enough here and we end it here...chill...

p/s : and u still can laugh if u want...

This post has been edited by edvpc: May 6 2008, 06:07 PM

I know SAF get to buy those striker scoring against them and regarded them as best striker...
Saha , Tevez, Rooney all were bought(including tevez whether loan or watever shit) bcos they scored against man utd...but this is not proving that they are the best...Example is saha is a failure whether he is injury prone or not...he is stil a failed signing..

and if u think eto is not the best...wat makes u think rooney is? pls compare the goals..god bless u

bro dont take it so serious lah...
u really made me laugh also...

then laugh

Santa Cruz and Torres... the former tops it for me due to his goals per pound ratio.

bro J-Piggy..edvpc is full of sarcasm ..but i like it..u must understand that from the beginning..

baru tau

how can u say that?
but i still voted for RSC coz he scored against MU this season...

p/s : bro J-Piggy plz ignore this post...

What about Tevez? The transfers not completed yet, though I'd imagine Fergie will do his best to sign him. Carried on his form from last season with West Ham, despite having very little rest with the Copa and all...

maybe after he complete his signing he will top form and then he will vote as a good signing...
who knows?

torres, worth every single penny...
sagna as well

tevez is good also, he'd been savior of mu for several times liao but he is loan

no other than Mr EL NINO TORREESSSSS!!

i think it settles it, clearly torres,sagna and cruz are the top3.

i personally think torres did well, better than my expectations with his price tag. 20mil pounds is nothing comparing to the fact that liverpool might not have been in the top 4 without his goals.

sagna, well, few players fit into arsenal from the start and his defence as well as attack and crosses really helped arsenal this season.

cruz, best quality per pound ratio

When you look at my avatar and you will know who's the best buy of the season.

Although i might said it's quite expensive, he shows his improvement and able to adapt the EPL style quicker than everyone's expectation.

haha so many people questioning about who is the best between santa cruz and torres
for me, as Arsenal supporter, i'll choose the one who come with little money, so Santa cruz get my votes!!

emm, what do u think about eduardo, he looks to shine in the middle of the season but terrible injury got him in bed...pity him

Bought at 7.5m pounds and scores more than 12 goals in minimal appearance, quite a great signing

so we decided best signing in terms how many goals they score??...how about midfilder?defender? they make the game too..anyone??..

This post has been edited by nazman: May 6 2008, 07:50 PM

what about michael Johnson of Man city
he looks very good in midfield, with a couple of goals as well
Elano also good

I want to say Nani was good, but with the price tag, i taken it back

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This post has been edited by vivi99: May 6 2008, 08:08 PM

torres gets my vote.. kudos to RSC too.. for his relatively low price.
Did anyone mention Mascherano at all? if im not mistaken he's officially signed this season after a short period of loan from west ham.

Macherano is still on loan at liverpool i think...
what about Jonathan Woodgate, who gaves Totenham the winning goals against Chelsea in Carling cup

he make a good partnership with Ledley King

officially liverpool player already, paid $18M for him i think

Fernando Torres

Midfield : Elano + Petrov
ermm, Muntari ?

Def : Distin

What?! Partnership with Ledley King? In bingo games you mean? King would probably need 17 different kind of jabs to dull his pain before he can even wear his boots! Almost non-existent partnership, one or two decent games doesn't mean a good partnership... just like when you go out on one or two good dates with a girl, but have like 756 bad ones...is that a good date?

Adebayor scored against United and also using his hand this season...hes the best!!!!!!!

Failing to use his feet and his head to score against united that u call the best?? Need his hand to do so..

fabregas .....best young midfielder ..

dude... read the topic... nobody is asking for the best midfielder...

Santa Cruz..Why?

cuz Torres snubbed United for Liverpool..

I'd say Santa Cruz is the best buy for this season. Torres comes into the second place considering he cost way more than Santa Cruz. And I agree with statement that he has better teammates than RSC, nevertheless he's still a great striker though.

Considering his small transfer fee, no doubt Santa Cruz has been the best deal this season...

Pato ?

I'm sorry, was the questions "who was the best signing", or "who was the best bargain"?

If it were always to do with being cheap and good, how do players like Kaka, Zidane and Ronaldinho win "Best Player" awards given their price tags?

While I do agree that price does matter to some degree, I'd like to believe it's the impact a player makes on the team and the fans. Liverpool's entire shape has changed just to accommodate Torres simply because he is scoring for fun and some may say, he forced Liverpool to adjust to his inclusion. So much so that Peter Crouch who scores almost each time he plays, has been shelved. So much so that Liverpool have reverted to a 4-3-3 from our traditional 4-4-2 or even 4-4-1-1. I also haven't a doubt in mind who is the more talented player.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 7 2008, 10:53 AM

how bout best signing for manager?
can i say Juande Ramos?

Definitely Santa Cruz... damn cheap for such debut

how to define best buy ?

santa cruz might have scored 20 ++ goals, but blackburn win nothing nor qualify for europe ...

Best buy means his worth. Is he worth for every penny spent on him?
We are not saying best player. If you say best buy means that player can help his team to Europe and start winning the league, he is best player.

Playing in Europe and winning trophy is depend on the whole team not a single player.

santa cruz lol.

ok
what about the defender u guys...?

u name it...

Pepe... 30M is a bloody expensive price tag for a defender...
but who cares ? Ferdinand costs MU 30M too not too long ago n look at him now...
he's been playing very consistently for Madrid and might prove to b a good signing for the long go...

Judging from feedback here, the typical Malaysian mentality is "cheap and good". Santa Cruz was signed for $3.5 million pounds and scored 19 goals for Blackburn. This would mean that a forward signed for $20 million pounds would need to score 109 goals to be considered as one of the best buys of the season. This is why I think it doesn't make sense to base it on cost and goals alone. If that were so, how would you rate midfielders? Cost to pass completion ratio? What of defenders? Tackles to cost ratio?

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 8 2008, 11:01 AM

Torres for me. Sagna, Tevez and Santa Cruz comes close

<----- this guy of course... 30 over goal what... got one more game... hope another 1 or 2 coming... heheh

totally agree.
if u buy someone, and the players turn out to be the main man for teh team leading to success..i think it is the best buy ever.in this case, Torres will win the battle
But if i consider myself a mid table team, like blackburn, signing a star like Santa Cruz is superb..they almost beat Man U rite?

You have a point.

Would it be fair to suggest that had Liverpool signed Santa Cruz, he would have made a bigger impact than Torres? What if Blackburn had signed Torres? Who would have made the bigger impact? Torres or Cruz?

Cruz has scored a lot of goals for a team like Blackburn and i'd say Torres can't do much if he's in Blackburn now compared to Liverpool.. And i don't think Blackburn can hold Cruz for a long time..

Cruz is really2 a best buy in BPL this season.. Amazin

btw when cruz playing at Bayern he not performing very well..it look like he mix well with average rating team...go to other big team?..he maybe think again..

did we just talking about BPL
btw i can see Ribery also best buy in this season

haha..i have mention that earlier but still debating about torres/cruz till now..
another good signing...Luca Toni..last season with Fiorentina he also a top scorer IMHO..now at bundesliga he also the top scorer with bayern...
good signing from the Bundesliga Champion..

hehe, a lot of cruz goals contributed by their superb winger...Pedersen and Bentley...
anyway, Bentley is turning a brialliant winger. his cross looks dangerous his skill improve quite a lot

Luca Toni is teh best buy for Bayern..although it cost a lot of money, but hey look, they won they title

Santa Cruz got my vote........

Hey what the heck happen to Benni McCarthy????? Is he still alive at Blackburn.

This post has been edited by Abangpedro: May 8 2008, 11:40 PM

Bacary Sagna

the same thing can be said to torres actually
this season liverpool lost at ucl semifinal, finished 4th in the league, got kicked by barnsley in fa cup
last season they proceed to the ucl final, finished 3rd in the league, eliminated by arsenal in fa cup
but the amount of his goals really proves something.. for a player that comes from spanish league and swiftly suited to bpl, he is an amazing player
he creates a lot of his goals himself, like against city before
he is worth 25 mil pounds that liverpool paid for him, but i still think santa cruz is the best signing.. small fees and 20+ goals really help