To do that actually you need Quartz swing timer. Latency can be worked around if you have that although personally staring at a swing timer for 4 hours is not my idea of fun.

On an equally geared warrior, I would expect a 33/28 BF/SLAM MS Warrior to be about 300-500dps below a fury warrior, especially at t6 level. The reason you bring an MS warrior is because more than 1 fury warrior is in most cases a waste of a raid spot. Blood Frenzy means an additional 4% physical dps which benefits your tanks, hunters, and other melee classes. When you have dps approaching and surpassing 2000dps, you really see the value of a MS warrior in your raid as the increase in raid dps is more than the reduction in the MS warrior's personal DPS. We're working on Brutallus atm and i can tell you that it takes a lot of hard work to get to the 2000+dps.

Expertise is the most pro stat because irrespective of how much hit you stack you will still lose DPS from dodges and if you have bad positioning, parries. Weapon Mastery is essential for any dps warrior due to the poor itemisation for expertise. However having said that on my human warrior i'm kinda capped on expertise due to the human sword expertise bonus and shard of contempt which results in a total of 6% dodge reduction. It's unbelievable good for DPS as all your rage effectively is converted into damage. The 2% dodge bonus from weapon mastery is a flat out 2% increase in dps and is unbelivably good value for talent point expenditure. You will never use overpower in pve - it's just not worth the rage loss from stance dancing. There is only one cookie cutter spec for DW fury and it's 17/44.

For most guilds, you would be damned lucky if you could get a raiding spot as a dps warrior and you really have to be able to demonstrate your worth by being as pew pew as the next rogue.

This post has been edited by Kidicarus: May 8 2008, 02:42 PM

Very nice damage! Feral, BM hunter, and EH shaman group?

Those S3 pieces that you wear are pretty decent for pve dps. What you lose out in AP you make up for in crit % i imagine.

Actually raid buffed my AP tends to go to about 3600-3800AP before trinket and other temporary buffs although tbh i don't pay much attention to my stats so i'm not sure. That's before trinket procs and unleashed rage though, I've never been quick enough to screenshot my highest AP. My highest boss DPS was 3.9k though that was on akama and i was cheating the damage meters with aoe There is a video of a warrior peaking at 9kdps before settling down to 6k dps on rage winterchill although that was due to gimmicky buffs. Yep this ain't karazhan.

Cookie cutter is just a standard template for the build that more or less every fury warrior who understands his class uses just because it's that good. Using anything else will have you called a noob.

It's always viable for PvP geared DW Fury to do well in raids. the S3 weapons are among the best weapons you can get for pve inspite of wasted stats on resilience. But if you're talking pure S3+Vindicators you would do mediocre damage by pve standards. Then your dps performance will depend on a lot of other factors.. like the relative gear and performance of your other raiders and the group you're put into (eg Kurei's good MS Dps was down to a combination of his group and his skill). Pwning damage meters isn't just about how good your are - it's also about how badly everyone else sucks.

Our first kill we only had 3 decursers which meant no screwing up on portals. And then on Sunday we had no shamans for raid healing which screwed up our raid on Sunday. Progression/wipe raid attendance is always difficult and is the effect is worse in sunwell especially since group make up seems to be a lot tighter. And the bosses are definitely a lot more challenging than the loot pinatas in BT. I got a bigger thrill from killing Kalecgos than illidan. So keep at it and good luck in there.