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post May 19 2008, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ May 19 2008, 09:02 PM)
That is what I am saying, its a capital raising exercise. Which means they should either get SC's or BNM's permission to execute it. Do they have such certification to say that they are legally allowed to collect money from the public?
By the way, how sure are you that they have sales of RM1.2million a month? Are you sure that the new concept would bring in RM15k sales DAILY?
If you can convince us with these, I would be interested as well smile.gif
Jordy, that's a valid point.

They may claim that their panel of lawyers has legalized everything, but ultimately, the onus is on each potential investor to conduct their own commercial, financial and legal due diligence on the investment.

Checking with the Securities Commission (SC) may be helpful in this respect.

You can lodge a query about a business (whether it's a capital-raising exercise) / ask for an investigation / file a complaint by completing the following form below and faxing or sending to the address below

Investor Affairs & Complaints Department
Securities Commission
No 3 Persiaran Bukit Kiara
Bukit Kiara
50490 Kuala Lumpur


Tel: 603 6204 8999
Fax: 603 6204 8991
E-mail: aduan@seccom.com.my


Fill it out best you can, and draw attention to the issue.

The more people report it, the higher up the priority chain it goes to for investigation.

SC has set up a specific target time period to respond to all queries, so do take advantage of this...

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post Jul 18 2008, 02:25 AM

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1. Don't believe in any get-rich-quick scheme. It's more likely a get-poor-fast scheme.

2. If anyone is offering to issue you securities (e.g. shares) via a document that purports certain returns (e.g. contained in an information memorandum / prospectus), report it to the Securities Commission.

3. If anyone is seeking to take deposits from you, in return for higher profits in the future, report it to Bank Negara Malaysia.
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post Jul 27 2008, 09:06 AM

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Invest in this kind of business with caution and care.
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post Jul 31 2008, 01:52 PM

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I remember when this thread first started sometime back, it was a very interesting informative thread...

... now it has just morphed into a slug-fest blink.gif

seriously, i don't think of any of this constant bickering is going to improve the profile of SC / STG.

p.s. you can put the agreement up as a file that can be downloaded.
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post Jul 31 2008, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Devil2 @ Jul 25 2008, 05:06 PM)
3rdly, are you all still new to the 'WORLD OF BUSINESS'? do you think every BIG company you see today are running according to MALAYSIA's LAW? even BANKs are running on the GREY line. some of their trust fund are registered using that GREY line, dont tell me you dont know anything about it mr.jordy (unit trust consultant)? 

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it's time for me to ciao already, dont want to waste my time on people who cant understand the simple LAW OF LIFE IN MALAYSIA. there are things that we cant do at other countries, but in Malaysia? if you have that certain 'ability', you can do a lot of 'things'.
Devil2, while I can understand you putting forward your views, can I politely suggest that you don't imply that SC / STG is operating in a grey area? Apart from scaring off potential investors in SC / STG, SC / STG might actually come after you for implying that they are operating in a grey area.
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post Aug 1 2008, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 31 2008, 03:49 PM)
This thread discussion is all about STG prepaid and get paid scheme issue. Whether it is legitimate, or grey area investment or MLM or a scam, or sustainable issue of the scheme is the main discussion point.
That's why we need moderators smile.gif Perfectly said.

QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 31 2008, 03:49 PM)
1. If it is an public investment scheme (repeated mentioned), then it must have Securities Commission approval. STG is not having Securities Commission approval based on the feedback on previous post, as claimed by Siliconwiper, because it is not a public investment scheme so approval is not needed. Siliconwiper claimed it is a prepaid scheme. But public prepaid scheme still need BNM/BAFIA approval. Then come out MLM issue while MLM still need KPDN licence to run. That's the basic for any public want to know.
Again, perfectly said, this is the crux of the issue, appropriate licenses would be required.

QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 31 2008, 03:49 PM)
2. In this scheme, even one 'invests' into it, one is not the shareholders of STG, right? "Investors" will be enjoying the return rate given by STG, but not participating in STG as a shareholder, right?
Proxying a rate-of-return as a shareholder, in return for a prepaid deposit. This would require BNM/BAFIA approval. They cannot get around this. And, additionally, if they are not a shareholder, they would not have shareholder rights are per Companies Act. They only have customer/depositor rights depending on the relevant agreement signed with STG / enforced by the authorities.


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post Aug 6 2008, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(siliconwiper.com @ Aug 3 2008, 09:27 AM)
I don't know. You tell me. So is this thing here supposed to be a MLM? it is a YES and it is a NO too.
Which means it is somewhat like an MLM scheme?

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post Aug 10 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Aug 8 2008, 06:49 PM)
You pay RM3000 plus and every month you will be paid back at "interest" of Rm150 cash and a food voucher for RM50 for at least 2 years. Which means after 2 years, you get back cash RM3,600 and makan worth RM1,200.
3rd year onwards, slightly less but you still get something. There is also a MLM scheme where you earn at least 10% for recruiting someone and the way down on your network of new recruits.

Note(there is a catch): There are conditions that Management have the right to change these conditions. Which means they can stop paying you anytime by without reason or just show some accounts that they cannot afford to pay anymore. They need not close and members cannot do anything.

This type of so-called investment scheme will not last. The trick is to get people to recruit people by taking money from the newcomers and pay-out to the pionees or people who joined earlier. A day will come when less newcomers join, the Company will just run away or change the conditions to stop paying out. There is no-way or impossible for the scheme to carry on because the Company will lose money if they don't stop.

In the past, there are Swisscash, Sunshine-Empire, IPC and many others, more recent ones that already stopped paying "investors" are the Seaweed Investment scheme in Maluri and Mobil-Wallet in Queenspark, Cheras. Mobil Wallet was highly successful last year. Multi-millions have been collected and a lot of news written about them for having tied up with Telekom, Banks, Tenaga etc. Billboards seen everywhere. Some people claimed to have invested in hundreds of thousands RMs. Cry also no tears now.
Well, just monitor this, and see what happens in the future. The place has opened already. If complaints emerge, this thread will reactivate for sure...

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